[VictoryOS]

Re: Other Planets?

Well you guys are way off the mark in living how God wants us too! republicans being the chosen party of God, ha!

Off the mark? Brother, how can we be "off the mark" if we live by the very letter of the Bible? How can we be "off the mark" if we live by His Word which He sent down to guide us?

Where exactly do you think "the mark" is?

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

Gothika's "Instant Expert Syndrome" guide to distinguishing between bubbles and planets!

Step1
Know the planets.

Here they are, all of them God's creation, in all their splendid beauty.



Top row, from left to right (just like we read) -> Mercury, Venus, and Earth! (note an absense of Satanism! o_O!)
Second row, from left to right -> Mars (looks notably unlike the bubbles, Jupiter, and Saturn! (yay! None of these are devil-worshiping =D)
Third row, from left to right -> Uranus, and Neptune. (Whoa! No witchcraft here either!)

(Brother_Percy, before you make the joke, it's pronounced "You-run-us", not "your-anus")

I've gathered these pictures from various locations around the internet and stitched them together.

Step2
Know what kinds of planets they all are.

The first four planets are rocky worlds.

• Mercury: Minimal atmosphere, heavily cratered. Brownish in colour (the image above is a black-and-white, such images reveal more detail).

• Venus: Dense, thick atmosphere. Not heavily cratered. Visible light doesn't penetrate the atmosphere (due to "clouds", which aren't created by Satan and his minions). Radar, however, can penetrate the clouds. Admittedly, if you search the internet for images of Venus, you'll get a lot of different things. In visible light, Venus is boring, and shows us only the tops of its clouds. However in other wavelengths of light, you can see more detail. Some wavelengths display more cloud structure, other wavelengths, such as those in radar, go all the way down to the surface. Ultraviolet shows some bluish colouration.

• Earth: Medium dense atmosphere. Barely cratered due to erosion and such. Also centre of the observable universe (And nope! Erosion isn't of the devil either =O) Note that the Earth is round. If you don't believe it from this picture, look at a lunar eclipse. That's the Earth's shadow on the moon. You'll see, unsurprisingly if you have an education, that the shadow clearly shows a round Earth. But you might argue that Earth is a flat circle instead o_O Very clever! Then explain why the water doesn't fall off the edge of the Earth leaving us all dry and thirsty? God's grace? Yes of course. Okay then explain why in different seasons, different stars are visible?

• Mars: Thin atmosphere, fairly heavily cratered. Looks red. Sacrifial blood? Or iron-oxide rust? You decide . Oddly enough, Mars is round too! (study the images carefully, you'll see that a lot of those planets are round. No coincidence! Gravity is a 3D force, and will pull everything toward the centre of mass. This causes everything to coallesce into a spherical object. If Earth were circular, gravity would turn it spherical.

• Jupiter: The first of the gas planets. Weighs fully 318 times the Earth! (= a lot). Gas planets have no solid surface, but are simply gas that gets denser with depth. The planet's rotation causes clouds to be warped around the planet to make those horizontal bands. That's right, when you look at a gas planet, all you're seeing is clouds!

• Saturn: Easy to recognize... the rings (which aren't a rock-and-roll record, so it's not Satanic). Saturn is also a gas planet, it has a little bit of atmospheric haze, making the clouds appear smoother, and not as dynamic as Jupiter's.

• Uranus: Not much to say about this dull planet. Lots of atmospheric haze prevents seeing a whole lot of detail. But don't worry, that atmosphere isn't hiding evil demonic cults! No! It's hiding... more gas!

• Neptune: Pretty similar to Uranus. Some differences are actually visible clouds, since Neptune doesn't have much haze.

Step3
If you still aren't sure, look at the boundary between day and night on the planets. And compare to the... I guess "same thing" on the bubbles. Now, I've taken a picture of the moon seen in the crescent phase, and took one of Brother_Percy's bubble images. Now I rotated the bubble image. The moon, and the planets, are both spherical, so there's no harm in using it.



How did I do that? I mean, the bubble is on the screen, I can't physically move it?! It MUST be witchcraft. ... No, I put it in paint, right -> click, flip/rotate, tell it how you want it to rotate and there you go.

On the top row, I have Brother_Percy's bubble, and God's moon. (i.e. He made it, He also made it spherical, just like the rest of the planets). In the second row, I have marked the day-night boundaries for the bubble and the moon. Notice how the moon has a semi-circular boundary. Sure, it's not a full circle, and I realise this, but it's part of a circle. (In math, we call it an arc). Look at the same boundary on the bubble, you can't claim that to be part of a circle o_O! What's different here? Simply put, the bubble is not perfectly spherical. Well neither is the moon, of course, it has craters and mountains, but the bubble is way not spherical.

So there's some geometry if you're still unsure.

And even better, you can look at the bubble and see it's not spherical:


And there you have it!
Use these simple steps, and you will be able to tell the difference between a planet, and a bubble!




Now, Brother_Percy, I challenge you to show me a picture of anything that you think I might get confused with a planet. ANY picture you want. I'll be able to tell you if it's a planet (and afterward, what planet it is), or if it's not a planet. If it's not a planet, I'll give a guess as to what it really is. I may get that wrong, of course, but I still know it's not a planet. For example your bubbles, if I didn't know they were bubbles, I still would've known they weren't planets, but I may not have known they were bubbles. (they swirlies sort of hint at it being a bubble).

Oh, and har har about "Gothzilla". Messing my account up without my concent. It reflects only on your immaturity.

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Other Planets?

Are you on drugs?

Firstly, you 'say' you took these images from various places on the internet.... oh, that means they MUST be real!

Secondly, how do you know what the atmosphere's like on Mercury or Your-anus? Have you been there? NO, thought not.

Thirdly.... oh I give up. I could go on and on rebuking your ridiculous post, but I think you've made enough of a fool out of yourself on your own.

Thanks for the laugh though. Mars has a thin atmosphere? Jupiter is a gas planet? blah blah blah... do you seriously believe this garbage?

Gothika's "Instant Expert Syndrome" guide to distinguishing between bubbles and planets!

Step1
Know the planets.

Here they are, all of them God's creation, in all their splendid beauty.



Top row, from left to right (just like we read) -> Mercury, Venus, and Earth! (note an absense of Satanism! o_O!)
Second row, from left to right -> Mars (looks notably unlike the bubbles, Jupiter, and Saturn! (yay! None of these are devil-worshiping =D)
Third row, from left to right -> Uranus, and Neptune. (Whoa! No witchcraft here either!)

(Brother_Percy, before you make the joke, it's pronounced "You-run-us", not "your-anus")

I've gathered these pictures from various locations around the internet and stitched them together.

Step2
Know what kinds of planets they all are.

The first four planets are rocky worlds.

• Mercury: Minimal atmosphere, heavily cratered. Brownish in colour (the image above is a black-and-white, such images reveal more detail).

• Venus: Dense, thick atmosphere. Not heavily cratered. Visible light doesn't penetrate the atmosphere (due to "clouds", which aren't created by Satan and his minions). Radar, however, can penetrate the clouds. Admittedly, if you search the internet for images of Venus, you'll get a lot of different things. In visible light, Venus is boring, and shows us only the tops of its clouds. However in other wavelengths of light, you can see more detail. Some wavelengths display more cloud structure, other wavelengths, such as those in radar, go all the way down to the surface. Ultraviolet shows some bluish colouration.

• Earth: Medium dense atmosphere. Barely cratered due to erosion and such. Also centre of the observable universe (And nope! Erosion isn't of the devil either =O) Note that the Earth is round. If you don't believe it from this picture, look at a lunar eclipse. That's the Earth's shadow on the moon. You'll see, unsurprisingly if you have an education, that the shadow clearly shows a round Earth. But you might argue that Earth is a flat circle instead o_O Very clever! Then explain why the water doesn't fall off the edge of the Earth leaving us all dry and thirsty? God's grace? Yes of course. Okay then explain why in different seasons, different stars are visible?

• Mars: Thin atmosphere, fairly heavily cratered. Looks red. Sacrifial blood? Or iron-oxide rust? You decide . Oddly enough, Mars is round too! (study the images carefully, you'll see that a lot of those planets are round. No coincidence! Gravity is a 3D force, and will pull everything toward the centre of mass. This causes everything to coallesce into a spherical object. If Earth were circular, gravity would turn it spherical.

• Jupiter: The first of the gas planets. Weighs fully 318 times the Earth! (= a lot). Gas planets have no solid surface, but are simply gas that gets denser with depth. The planet's rotation causes clouds to be warped around the planet to make those horizontal bands. That's right, when you look at a gas planet, all you're seeing is clouds!

• Saturn: Easy to recognize... the rings (which aren't a rock-and-roll record, so it's not Satanic). Saturn is also a gas planet, it has a little bit of atmospheric haze, making the clouds appear smoother, and not as dynamic as Jupiter's.

• Uranus: Not much to say about this dull planet. Lots of atmospheric haze prevents seeing a whole lot of detail. But don't worry, that atmosphere isn't hiding evil demonic cults! No! It's hiding... more gas!

• Neptune: Pretty similar to Uranus. Some differences are actually visible clouds, since Neptune doesn't have much haze.

Step3
If you still aren't sure, look at the boundary between day and night on the planets. And compare to the... I guess "same thing" on the bubbles. Now, I've taken a picture of the moon seen in the crescent phase, and took one of Brother_Percy's bubble images. Now I rotated the bubble image. The moon, and the planets, are both spherical, so there's no harm in using it.



How did I do that? I mean, the bubble is on the screen, I can't physically move it?! It MUST be witchcraft. ... No, I put it in paint, right -> click, flip/rotate, tell it how you want it to rotate and there you go.

On the top row, I have Brother_Percy's bubble, and God's moon. (i.e. He made it, He also made it spherical, just like the rest of the planets). In the second row, I have marked the day-night boundaries for the bubble and the moon. Notice how the moon has a semi-circular boundary. Sure, it's not a full circle, and I realise this, but it's part of a circle. (In math, we call it an arc). Look at the same boundary on the bubble, you can't claim that to be part of a circle o_O! What's different here? Simply put, the bubble is not perfectly spherical. Well neither is the moon, of course, it has craters and mountains, but the bubble is way not spherical.

So there's some geometry if you're still unsure.

And even better, you can look at the bubble and see it's not spherical:


And there you have it!
Use these simple steps, and you will be able to tell the difference between a planet, and a bubble!




Now, Brother_Percy, I challenge you to show me a picture of anything that you think I might get confused with a planet. ANY picture you want. I'll be able to tell you if it's a planet (and afterward, what planet it is), or if it's not a planet. If it's not a planet, I'll give a guess as to what it really is. I may get that wrong, of course, but I still know it's not a planet. For example your bubbles, if I didn't know they were bubbles, I still would've known they weren't planets, but I may not have known they were bubbles. (they swirlies sort of hint at it being a bubble).

Oh, and har har about "Gothzilla". Messing my account up without my concent. It reflects only on your immaturity.

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

It's spelled Uranus (your-anus) so why would you pronounce it differently?

Also, I don't see what your bubble-to-moon comparison proves. Adding a couple of blue lines in MSPaint doesn't make it valid. Who knows what other additions you made while there...

[VictoryOS]

Re: Other Planets?

It's spelled Uranus (your-anus) so why would you pronounce it differently?

If you think about it, it sounds dirty no matter which way you say it.

[Nobar King]

Re: Other Planets?

The original question is pretty stupid. There are places on Earth that don't sustain life. Who cares if there are planets that won't sustain life. Why would God put people on other planets, anyway, when the Earth is so great? Do you think you would want to be born on Mars? It's hot there.

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Other Planets?

Do you think you would want to be born on Mars? It's hot there.

I often wonder if Mars is flat, like the Earth. But then I remember it is not my place to question such things. Only to praise and Glorify God. Glory!

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Other Planets?

Umm, Ahimaaz have you ever killed anyone?

Why kill them when I can achieve essentially the same result through aggressive litigation?

[Mindlessness]

Re: Other Planets?

What kinda of Muslim name is Ahimaaz!

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Other Planets?

What kinda of Muslim name is Ahimaaz!

Ahimaaz was a High Priest of God. In his youth, he was known for delivering good news to the godly and for hiding in the homes of married ladies to spy on rebellious Jews. It's a name that suits me well.

If you'd read the Bible, you'd know these things. Heck, if you knew how to use Google you'd know these things. It's sad, the mindlessness with which we have to deal.

[Mister Brasil]

Re: Other Planets?

I don't intend to be presumptuous, but it seems clear to me that this Gothgila is a fine young Christian woman who is undergoing the same struggles as millions of young Christians. It's a little unfair to expect critical analysis from her.

When I was a younger man I believed in all of this scienazi crap too: ten planets, germs, even old-earth. I think it's hard for the saved to recognize the pressures placed on young people to accept this kind of nonsense.

I'd always believed that the people at NASA were good, God-fearing Christians-- maybe my parents raised me to be a little more optimistic and respectful than is really appropriate. I thought, why would they lie?

Then I made a shocking discovery. NASA named the ten planets after the old Roman "gods"-- or should I say demons, seeing as that's what they are? Mercury, the demon of magic. Mars, the demon of war. Pluto, the demon of death. And Jupiter, the king of all the Roman demons. These are the demons that Christ expelled from the Roman emperor Constantine when he began the glorious partnership of government and faith (that is sadly now in tatters). When I made that discovery, I saw NASA for it is: an organization of satanists. Rearrange the letters and add a t, and what do you have?

If NASA told me that Christ is the Truth, the Way, and the Lite, I might think twice. (No, I'm exaggerating, I know that He is.) I certainly have no more faith in other planets than I do in a million year old Earth. It's hard to learn to think critically like this, but God gave me a brain for a reason.

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Other Planets?

I don't intend to be presumptuous, but it seems clear to me that this Gothgila is a fine young Christian woman who is undergoing the same struggles as millions of young Christians. It's a little unfair to expect critical analysis from her.

I can't believe I'm hearing this! Gothilla is a GOTH who 'thinks' she is a Christian. But in reality - There is no such thing as a Christian Goth!

We have discussed this fact more times on these forums than I care to mention. You cannot dress like some sick morbid freak, be in a cult, listen to sinister violent gothic music, hang around with satanic trash, AND still be a Christian. It is just ridiculous to even think you can. These people are freaks! It would be wise to remember that.

1 Corinthians 11:14 “Does not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame to him?” Paul is saying that common sense—“nature”—tells us that men should look like men, not women. They should not have long hair, because it is a sin—“a shame.”

This principle applies to the way Goths dress. Typically and historically, it has been women who wear eyeliner, lipstick and make-up and dress in a feminine manner. Even in today’s liberal, laid-back society, it is still mostly women who do this. However in recent decades we have seen grown men choosing to live “alternative lifestyles”, often chosing to pierce their ears, wear make-up and torn fishnet clothing as a signal to others.

Notice Deuteronomy 2:5: “The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord your God.” An abomination to God, eh? That sounds just like the Goths. Remember, it is a SIN for men to appear effeminate!

Zephaniah 1:8 states, “And it shall come to pass in the day of the Lord’s sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king’s children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.” Strange Apparel? Well you don't get more strange than the Goths.

Another scriptural principle applies. Aside from looking unmanly, men dressed as Goths have traditionally been viewed as strange, outlandish, or rebellious. And we know what the Bible has to say on rebellion.

1 Samuel 15:23 clearly states "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft."

And we all know what the Bible has to say about witchcraft.

Now, as with Gothic males, Gothic females dress in a similar, though more whorish and rebellious attire. Attire NOT suitable for a Christian woman in the slightest. Here is what the Bible has to say about how a Christian woman should dress -

"In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve.” 1 Timothy 2:9

The Bible instructs all Christian women to dress modestly. One aspect of dressing modestly is making sure everything that should be covered by clothing is adequately covered. However another aspect to modesty is not drawing attention to yourself. People who dress modestly dress in such a way that they do not draw attention to themselves. Do goths dress modestly? No. They dress like sick satanic freaks. Covered in piercings and tattoos, torn fishnet stockings, PVC, rubber, basques, and gay bondage clothing. Dressing up in such a manner is a direct defiance of God.

It should be a matter of common sense that Christian should not dress like a Goth. The apostle Paul wrote, “Abstain from all appearance of evil” (1 Thes. 5:22). So, even appearance in a matter is important. And this is before we even go into the open perversion in the way Goth's dress.

GOTHS ARE A WALKING ABOMINATION TO GOD !

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

Of course... it makes so much sense to me now.

You people don't modify your understanding of the scriptures to fit everyday life... you change your understanding of everyday life to fit an example of scripture.

For example, if I said that puppies practice witchcraft, then of course I would then claim the Bible is against puppies. If I said planets are Satanic, then of course I would say that since the scriptures are anti-Satanic, the scriptures must be anti-planets. If I say Goths are evil, and I then proceed to say the Bible is against evil, then I would conclude that the Bible is anti-Goth.

"The very powerful and the very stupid share one thing on common: They do not change their views to fit the facts... they change the facts to fit their views." (I can't remember who said it).

In my prayers, God enlightened me to the fact that I should depart from this forum. It's done nothing good for me, and I see it doing no good for any one else. I believe God wished to show me an example of something.
"ye shall know them by their fruits."

I thus shall depart. Brother Percy, until we meet in Heaven, fare well, and God bless.

If anyone wishes to contact me further, my e-mail address is [EMAIL address deleted]

"Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
-- Matthew 5:10

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

Then I made a shocking discovery. NASA named the ten planets after the old Roman "gods"

You misdiscovered. NASA did not name the planets, the Romans did, as they thought the planets were literally gods. What NASA has done, if anything, has shown us they are not gods (but of course, we all knew that). But anyway, yeah, The Romans named them and the names just stuck.

The only exceptions to these are Ur*filth removed* and Neptune, but neither of these were discovered by NASA. They were named by their discoverers back in the 1700s and 1800s (for Ur*filth removed* and Neptune, respectively).

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Other Planets?

the Romans ... thought the planets were literally gods.

So what you are saying is that Planets were worshipped as false-Gods, and are therefore Satanic?