[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

OK then, show me where in the Bible it teaches about using Doppler spectroscopy, photometry, and gravitational microlensing?

The Bible does not mention these methods. They weren't invented back then. The Bible isn't supposed to be a book that describes everything in the universe, rather, it's to show us what kind of lives to lead, it's to bring the Word of Truth, educate us about the Salvation that Christ brought to us.

Going off into an astrophysics lecture would be getting off-topic =P.

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

Gothika,

Your descriptions of what you can see don't sound like what we're told Galileo saw. You saw he say the clouds of this 'Jupiter' planet? How come you can't see the clouds?

Did Galileo have better technology than we do today?

[Mindlessness]

Re: Other Planets?

But Brother tell me where it teaches about cars and computers in the Bible. Your only saying that because he has disproved your argument.

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

But Brother tell me where it teaches about cars and computers in the Bible. Your only saying that because he has disproved your argument.

The Bible doesn't teach us about cars and computers. They didn't exist back then, duh.

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

You saw he say the clouds of this 'Jupiter' planet? How come you can't see the clouds?

Ah but I did,

For Jupiter, I can see the equatorial zones and bands, which show up as brighter or darker lines going across the surface of the planet horizontally.

Jupiter is a completely different sort of planet than Earth. It's clouds simply run horizotnally across the planet due to a rapid rotation of the planet itself.

Did Galileo have better technology than we do today?

No, thankfully, lololol.

[Mindlessness]

Re: Other Planets?

The Bible doesn't teach us about cars and computers. They didn't exist back then, duh.

Yes but by the logic of Brother Percy that would make cars and computers satanic.

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

The Bible doesn't teach us about cars and computers. They didn't exist back then, duh.

Indeed, and a valid point. Similarly, Doppler Spectroscopy and such didn't exist back in the day.

Quick question, is it possible I can edit my posts?

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

So you saw some 'dark bands' and you conclude they must be clouds? Did you even see any colors?

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Other Planets?

Quick question, is it possible I can edit my posts?

NO! We do not allow pathetic Goth-tards to 'alter' or 'change' their posts. Do you think we want you harrassing and abusing our members, posting Satanic curses and threats, and then removing the evidence? I DON'T THINK SO!

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

Cars and computers CAN be satanic, depending on how they're used. (see Philippians 4:8)

They can take you to church or to the local strip club where there's no doorknob on the outside and they have these waitresses wearing bunny ears serving you drinks topless, or so I've heard.

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

So you saw some 'dark bands' and you conclude they must be clouds? Did you even see any colors?

I know enough about Jupiter to know what I'm looking at, so yes, indeed I realised they were clouds. For colouration, Jupiter has a bit of a creamy, pale tan colour. Same with Venus. Mars I can make out reddish colour. Mercury looks notably brown.

[Bob4God]

Re: Other Planets?

I once looked through a ten inch Orion something or other telescope and I practically had to squint to see anything at all. I was told I was seeing Jupiter. When I was supposedly shown these other planets, they looked nothing like what you describe.

Apparently, each manufacturer has their own ideas on how planets should look through their own telescopes.

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

NO!

Okay, lol.

We do not allow pathetic Goth-tards to 'alter' or 'change' their posts.

Ah, alright, fair enough. Do you allow people who aren't "Goth-tards" to alter or change their posts? (i.e. look beyond the fact that I dress differently from you when you answer my questions, lol, it makes you seem more... Christ-like?)

Do you think we want you harrassing and abusing our members, posting Satanic curses and threats, and then removing the evidence? I DON'T THINK SO!

This is sensible. And it's true, it would then be possible for me to change previous posts. I was looking more for a spelling-issue thing. I tend to not spell words too well sometimes.

i.e.
(clicks "submit")
Oh darn, I just notice I misspelled <enter word>!

=(

But okay, I can see your point of view. I'll just live with my misspellings, lol.

Still though, as I am a Christian, you're not going to be seeing any Satanic curses and threats from me, lol. Furthermore, I'm not the sort of person to harass or abuse people.

Cars and computers CAN be satanic, depending on how they're used. (see Philippians 4:8)

Ah, finally, someone pulls out scripture, =).

My Bible (KJV) has this for Phi 4:8

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honst, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

I'm not entirely sure how this relates to cars and computers being satanic...

... one who knows not, and knows he knows not is a child, teach him...

... but I certainly do agree that computers and cars can be used in a manor that is pleasing to Satan.

In this case, yes, it could be considered Satanic.

[Gothzilla]

Re: Other Planets?

I once looked through a ten inch Orion something or other telescope and I practically had to squint to see anything at all.

They may have been trying to show you the Orion Nebula, which can be challenging to find and see.

I was told I was seeing Jupiter. When I was supposedly shown these other planets, they looked nothing like what you describe.

Well, Jupiter is never in Orion. Point in case: You were lied to o_O. If you see Jupiter through a 10-inch, trust me, you'll know what it looks like. You won't have to squint to see it, lol. I mean, it'll be obvious.

Apparently, each manufacturer has their own ideas on how planets should look through their own telescopes.

Before the telescope I had now, I had a smaller telescope that showed me the same thing (albeit not large, due to the smaller telescope being, well, smaller). The first telescope was a 8 cm refractor, whereas my current telescope is a 14 cm reflector. They're completely different types of telescopes, and they are not made by the same manufacturer.

I once saw Jupiter through a 16 cm reflector, and it looks just like it does through my 14 cm reflector, albeit bigger (as the 16 cm reflector was... bigger).

I assure you, there's no huge conspiracy going on, telescopes are simply lenses and mirrors. There are tens of thousands of telescopes in the world capable of seeing Jupiter. If it truly appeared differently in various telescopes, this would have been known for a very long time. Various astronomy clubs have meetings where a large variety of telescopes are brought to some location out in rual areas to look at the night sky. Here, surely, the discrepancy would be found.

Furthermore, it's not economical to place such a computer into all of the telescopes. Such computer would be rather expensive, especially if it's small enough to never be noticed by anyone. That'd be a costly computer. The amount of cash that goes into buying a telescope seems rather low if there truly is a computer in there.

Some people make their own telescopes, and I have considered making my own. I currently have an 18 cm concave chunk of glass that I will need to polish and have some reflective material (I forgot what the material is called =S) and put on it to make a mirror. I did research into how to make telescopes, and it's rather straightforward, other than getting the materials. My point is, it ins't difficult to make a telescope, many ameture astronomers make their own telescopes, often as a hobby. Now where would an ameture astronomer get such a computer, and how comes he can put it into his telescope and still not believe it exists? If I were making a telescope (well, rather, if I ever get around to completing it), I would certainly not put some little computer in there to lie to me. I want to see the planets as they really are.

[VictoryOS]

Re: Other Planets?

Sister Gothika, I am so pleased to see that Jesus saw fit to bring you to our fold today! I hope He has blessed you with exceptionally nice weather where you live as He has where I live.

You seem to be off to a good start in your Walk with the Lord. I'm a little concerned about your gothical lifestyle though. Are you sure this is pleasing to Jesus? When you wear your clothes and makeup, do you do so in the Glory of the Lord? Do you Praise Him with your every action and thought throughout the day?

I hope you like it here on our forums. We would love to see you stay a while so we can get to know you better and hopefully fine-tune your beliefs so that you can be a proper Christian Lady.

Also, I noticed in a previous post you expressed dismay at being labeled "Unsaved Trash". Please don't take this personally as it is an automatic label that goes to every new member. It is only intended to remind the user that they are trash in the Eyes of the Lord until they have accepted His Love into their heart.

Have a blessed day!