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  • Brother Gonzalez
    Another brick in Donald´s wall - A.K.A "The Gonz"
    True Christian™
     
    • Sep 2016
    • 2087

    #91
    Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

    Originally posted by blizzard2014 View Post
    I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function. I have chronic pain and could work more hours on meds. Now that they are cutting everyone off, I have had to cut back on my hours. I have an understanding boss and he gives me all the smaller jobs that no one wants. I have no real supervision, no time card, I just show up after 5 PM, clean one of the many buildings I am assigned to and never have any complaints. I have only missed 1 day in a years time except for the 30 days for a failing gallbladder. I used to work 12 hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes 24 hours straight driving. I'm no stranger to work, but once they body goes out, it is gone. You can still work, but you're never going to be like you once were without a miracle from the Lord.


    I was so bad before my Orthostatic Intolerance was diagnosed that I could not even handle standing in line at the DVT to wait for 30 minutes to renew my commercial drivers license. I just gave it up. Then 3 months later I discovered why I was feeling like death every time I was on my feet. I had 170/120 and higher BP with a heart rate of 150 BPM when standing. I had been out of work for a while battling blood clots that to this day leave my right leg only functional at 50 percent. I can't walk fast, cannot run, have to use my arms to lower to the toilet, have to limp up and down stairs with my left leg only. My right leg cannot support my body sufficiently to climb no matter how much I try and exercise it. The strength and function had been gone for over seven years now. I can only handle part time heavy work as a janitor. But I think I can re-train for a desk job though. So that is what I will be doing eventually. You need college for that, so I will go back to college. Does that make me lazy because I can no longer push a mop around? I used to drive from LA to Detroit in 47 hours. Got some sleep in there too. Then from Detroit to Louisiana non-stop after 4 hours of sleep in a parking lot. I was the highest earning driver for the small company I worked for. I worked for 6 months straight before I took a few days off at home. But when your body fails you, you can fight all you want, you will never be what you once were. I am living proof of that.
    Dear, either God does not exist, or God made you this way. He does everything.
    So start asking yourself what you have done to be struck with all the diseases. Pray for forgiveness.
    1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

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    • Dr Laurence Niles
      Psychotheological Analyst Therapist
       
      • Jan 2012
      • 9063

      #92
      Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

      Originally posted by blizzard2014 View Post
      I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function. I have chronic pain and could work more hours on meds. Now that they are cutting everyone off, I have had to cut back on my hours. I have an understanding boss and he gives me all the smaller jobs that no one wants. I have no real supervision, no time card, I just show up after 5 PM, clean one of the many buildings I am assigned to and never have any complaints. I have only missed 1 day in a years time except for the 30 days for a failing gallbladder. I used to work 12 hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes 24 hours straight driving. I'm no stranger to work, but once they body goes out, it is gone. You can still work, but you're never going to be like you once were without a miracle from the Lord.


      I was so bad before my Orthostatic Intolerance was diagnosed that I could not even handle standing in line at the DVT to wait for 30 minutes to renew my commercial drivers license. I just gave it up. Then 3 months later I discovered why I was feeling like death every time I was on my feet. I had 170/120 and higher BP with a heart rate of 150 BPM when standing. I had been out of work for a while battling blood clots that to this day leave my right leg only functional at 50 percent. I can't walk fast, cannot run, have to use my arms to lower to the toilet, have to limp up and down stairs with my left leg only. My right leg cannot support my body sufficiently to climb no matter how much I try and exercise it. The strength and function had been gone for over seven years now. I can only handle part time heavy work as a janitor. But I think I can re-train for a desk job though. So that is what I will be doing eventually. You need college for that, so I will go back to college. Does that make me lazy because I can no longer push a mop around? I used to drive from LA to Detroit in 47 hours. Got some sleep in there too. Then from Detroit to Louisiana non-stop after 4 hours of sleep in a parking lot. I was the highest earning driver for the small company I worked for. I worked for 6 months straight before I took a few days off at home. But when your body fails you, you can fight all you want, you will never be what you once were. I am living proof of that.
      I think that laziness has a firm Biblical basis that you ignore.

      Proverbs 12:24 "The hand of the diligent will rule, But the lazy man will be put to forced labor

      So rather than wasting time studying so called science, if you really want to make amends for whatever sin you or someone close to you committed that caused Jesus to smite you with the laziness you SHOULD pick up that mop, go to your local Baptist Church and pray that Jesus will let you sweep His house clean.

      Jesus created the entire Universe some 6000 years ago: the least that you could do is pick up a gosh darn mop.

      YIC

      Edit: I hope all of your references to a mop is not so homersexualisticalism gaywise slang for a male’s penile member
      Last edited by Dr Laurence Niles; 05-03-2019, 11:15 AM. Reason: Heading off gay panic on the open boards.
      1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

      Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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      • MitzaLizalor
        Completely CRAZY for the Lord
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2010
        • 14248

        #93
        Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

        Originally Posted by blizzard2014
        Sorry, I shortened the quote because it was so long. I'm not saying that there are some psychosomatic disorders out there. There definitely are, but Orthostatic Intolerance is real. It's been proven and it is something I would call nuts if it weren't for the fact that I also suffer from a variant of this condition. I have stroke level blood pressure upon standing, high heart rate, and it remains this way until I sit back down. All documented many times at the docs. On meds, I still have a spike, but not enough to cause dizziness and shortness of breath. The other side of this coin are those who have a severe drop in blood pressure when they stand up and it causes them to faint. This is very real and it can be treated in a lot of cases with sodium and intravenous fluids. I wouldn't call pain and fatigue laziness either. Due to a badly damaged leg and heart from huge blood clots that I had for six months, I suffer a lot. I go to work sometimes with full on flu-like symptoms and am so sore I have to literally fight to get my job done. As a consequence, I only work part time. I cannot tell you what day I will be able to go into work and rock and roll and work like a machine (just like I used to when I worked 12 hour days in the factory, and 24 hour straight driving days as a truck driver)! One day It takes 5 hours of labor to be completely jacked up to the point where I feel and walk like a 90 year old man, and another day I wake up like this and still go to work, just work slower and take more time. I have a job where I show up and do my job however long it takes (I am paid a set amount of hours and that is it whether I work shorter or longer). If the work is not done properly, the customer will call in and complain. In 1 year of service, I have had zero complaints. I even went to work with failing kidneys, 2 weeks of intermittent severe gallbladder attacks, to the point of not even being safe to drive. On the last day before hospitalization, I was close to collapsing with very low kidney function from throwing up and not eating or drinking. I had to take 30 unplanned days off of work due to the surgery to remove the gallbladder and the recovery time. Being super man and fighting illnesses does not make it go away or make you a man. I wish I could have the body I had before the blood clots and go back to being a full time truck driver. But it appears as if God needed to allow this to happen in order to get my attention and get my life moving in another direction. Diabetes is real, I have it. I have 150 blood sugar in the morning even on days when I eat no carbs or sugar. Sleep apnea is real, I have that as well. Enlarged heard from it being overworked from huge blood clots blocking the arteries in the lungs is real and causes issues. But I do agree some illnesses can be spiritual in nature and an attack on the person for not living right. But to say it all comes from laziness. That is simply not the case.
        I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function. I have chronic pain and could work more hours on meds. Now that they are cutting everyone off, I have had to cut back on my hours. I have an understanding boss and he gives me all the smaller jobs that no one wants. I have no real supervision, no time card, I just show up after 5 PM, clean one of the many buildings I am assigned to and never have any complaints. I have only missed 1 day in a years time except for the 30 days for a failing gallbladder. I used to work 12 hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes 24 hours straight driving. I'm no stranger to work, but once they body goes out, it is gone. You can still work, but you're never going to be like you once were without a miracle from the Lord. I was so bad before my Orthostatic Intolerance was diagnosed that I could not even handle standing in line at the DVT to wait for 30 minutes to renew my commercial drivers license. I just gave it up. Then 3 months later I discovered why I was feeling like death every time I was on my feet. I had 170/120 and higher BP with a heart rate of 150 BPM when standing. I had been out of work for a while battling blood clots that to this day leave my right leg only functional at 50 percent. I can't walk fast, cannot run, have to use my arms to lower to the toilet, have to limp up and down stairs with my left leg only. My right leg cannot support my body sufficiently to climb no matter how much I try and exercise it. The strength and function had been gone for over seven years now. I can only handle part time heavy work as a janitor. But I think I can re-train for a desk job though. So that is what I will be doing eventually. You need college for that, so I will go back to college. Does that make me lazy because I can no longer push a mop around? I used to drive from LA to Detroit in 47 hours. Got some sleep in there too. Then from Detroit to Louisiana non-stop after 4 hours of sleep in a parking lot. I was the highest earning driver for the small company I worked for. I worked for 6 months straight before I took a few days off at home. But when your body fails you, you can fight all you want, you will never be what you once were. I am living proof of that.
        The Bible explains that God heals everyone who has faith in Him. This point was covered as early as the twelfth post and I don't need to rehash Christ's own words. "Whatsoever" does not exclude afflictions of the innards and "any thing" does not mean just some things. "That I will do" doesn't mean will not. do and "I will do it" does not mean maybe I'll think about it but then again maybe not.

        Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
        Jn 14:12-14 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
        You don't have to believe The Bible or even accept that Jesus was a real person. But you can't deny what The Bible contains or pretend Christ's teaching was other than it is reported to be. Well, you could. in the same way that air could be denied. So we know what The Bible teaches us.

        If you do not agree with The Bible there are consequences. God describes a variety of health outcomes for contradicting Him. Additionally, because He loves us and wants to prevent us from suffering unnecessarily, He has explained what happens to people who reject His love. It's severe. Really severe. The Bible spells out some of the torments but yours is more a question of faith. Sometimes the elders of the Church need to be involved and this aspect also has been covered, in the sixty-sixth post.

        Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
        James 5:14 "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:"

        Mark 16:18 "They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
        Once again, "they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover" does not mean recover if there's an R in the month or if you take loads of medicine or visit a hypnotist. These are fairly simple points and have been addressed already. Of course if you think God doesn't exist then you'd have a different explanation for infirmity and recovery.

        Christians however believe Christ's teachings on the subject and need look no further than that.

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        • Cranky Old Man
          Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
          You kids get off his lawn!
           
          • Jan 2010
          • 22363

          #94
          Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

          Originally posted by blizzard2014 View Post
          I would like to ask you what your opinion is on people who need pain medication in order to function.
          There is no such thing. All pain can be taken away by prayer (Matthew 21:22, John 9:31, Luke 18:27). People who "need" medication actually need to throw those away and study their Bibles instead. Otherwise they will burn in Hell for all eternity and no amount of pills will reduce your suffering there.
          5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
          To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
          James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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          • BrotherLarry
            Revelationary Equine Gnathologist for Christ
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2014
            • 2249

            #95
            Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

            God is not impressed with lazy people. In Amos chapter 6 verse 1 we are warned about being at ease. This is not referring to soldiers because God loves soldiers.

            Do you have any idea how many times the word work appears in the Bible? I will tell you. Between 420 and 3836 times depending on how carefully you count. That should tell you how Jesus values those of us who press forward instead of moping about every little pain and ache. Did Jesus mope on the Cross of Cavalry?

            It is even a part of our Salvation(r). Read Phil 2:12. To all who make excuses instead of getting on with service to God I say WOE to you on His terrible Day of Reckoning. WOE!!!!
            Proverbs 21:31 KJV 1611:
            “The horse is prepared against the day of battell: but safetie is of the Lord.”

            Lord, may I serve my equine brothers and sisters just as I do my fellow man.
            Amen and Amen

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            • MitzaLizalor
              Completely CRAZY for the Lord
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2010
              • 14248

              #96
              Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

              Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post

              ––4...Digestive disturbances Possibly genuine, but nothing that can't be fixed by prayer…
              Satan is promoting colonic irrigation. Why? I have no idea. God is absolutely clear that prayer is the solution for all ailments. Not just some ailments. All ailments. The enormity of invasive therapies, especially those involving the colon, seek to prevent God's retribution in response to the whoredoms He detests so much.
              II Chronicles 21:12b-15 Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah, but hast walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and hast made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to go a whoring, like to the whoredoms of the house of Ahab, and also hast slain thy brethren of thy father's house, which were better than thyself: Behold, with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods: And thou shalt have great sickness by disease of thy bowels, until thy bowels fall out by reason of the sickness day by day.

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              • Joanna Lytton-Vasey
                True Christian™ Lady Extraordinaire, an Honorary Male Biblicist
                 
                • Jul 2014
                • 8385

                #97
                Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

                Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                Orthostatic intolerance Don't know what that is, so it's probably fake too
                Brother Dr Pendergast, I had to look that up. Guess what? It is described (by Wikipedia, a source greatly favored by the Godless pseudoscientists who plague these forums) as:
                the development of symptoms when standing upright which are relieved when reclining
                Did anyone ever see a more concise definition of laziness?
                Vaccinated by the love of Jesus!!!

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                • MitzaLizalor
                  Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14248

                  #98
                  Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

                  The development of symptoms when reclining which are relieved by going to sleep?

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                  • Pim Pendergast
                    PHD - Theophysicist
                    Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
                    True Christian™
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 3103

                    #99
                    Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

                    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                    Satan is promoting colonic irrigation. Why? I have no idea. God is absolutely clear that prayer is the solution for all ailments. Not just some ailments. All ailments. The enormity of invasive therapies, especially those involving the colon, seek to prevent God's retribution in response to the whoredoms He detests so much.
                    Some secular scientists speculate that Jehoram may have suffered from colorectal carcinoma. No amount of chemotherapy or radiation therapy or surgery would have saved him, however, once God had determined to slowly disembowel him for committing idolatry. Repentance and prayer would have been his only shot at averting this gruesome fate.

                    Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

                    Disease is not a failure of the body or the mind or medicine. It is failure of righteousness and communion with God. By God's grace, I am quite certain that my bowels will never fall out. I like to imagine that when the time comes for me to depart this earthly life, I will not suffer a protracted, painful death. If all disease is result of sin and curable by prayer, it must be possible for a saint to have no discernible medical cause of death, to have died simply because his soul has been removed from an otherwise perfectly healthy body and transported to Heaven.
                    sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

                    Find out what the Bible says about: Fortnite: Battle Royale, asexuality, shaving, psychiatry, chronic fatigue syndrome, babies

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                    • James Hutchins
                      True Christian™
                      Just a Regular Nice Guy
                       
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 29453

                      #100
                      Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

                      Originally posted by blizzard2014 View Post
                      Sorry, ... tl;dr...... case.
                      Hi
                      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                      • MitzaLizalor
                        Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                        True Christian™
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14248

                        #101
                        blizzard2014

                        The Bible is clear about Jesus. He loves those whom He has chosen to reign with Him in Heaven forever. There are signs which follow conversion, described in The Bible (our only source for His teachings) so that we'd know what to expect.

                        Mark 16:15-19 And he [Jesus] said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

                        Those are some pretty unmistakeable signs. How do we know we were chosen? Quite simple, really: God told us.

                        Ephesians 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: according as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.

                        There are also people who are not Christians. Most people.

                        Matthew 22:14 Many are called but few are chosen.


                        Jesus knew that different standards of hygiene, diet, medicine, new theories of disease, psychiatry, and the denial of demonic possession were just around the corner and that tablets, nose drops, injections and potions would be made to counteract the symptoms He sent to warn us and help us to find Salvation. He knew that all of these would contradict what He taught and enable people to claim that His ministry never happened as described because—for example—there are no devils causing convulsions to be cast out in the first place. Plague, He knew it would be claimed, never results from negative lifestyle choices made by a great-great-grandparent. Jesus even knew which nose drops would be invented to "cure" which ailments and what chemicals would be combined to make them! But they're not really cures are they. Most of the time they don't even treat the symptoms. Demon possessed wretches remain occupied by devils. The palsied remain palsied and hallucinating psychotics—except when sedated into oblivion—continue to hallucinate.


                        SYMPTOMS

                        All sorts of symptoms are described. We know about symptoms developing when reclining which are relieved by sleep. Could there also be symptoms developing when asleep which are relieved by coma? We know that reactions in many situations—to passing eye-candy for instance—in themselves are sinful. He seems to like you: what should you do? Maybe on a luxury rail journey, returning from the cocktail lounge, she stumbles into you "I think a man with a moustache is very attractive, would you like to try one of these cigars?" The Bible is very explicit on just this point. In both cases the answer is No. But the real sin is the thought in the first place.


                        CONSEQUENCES
                        II Samuel 11:1—12:24
                        Many of those thoughts have condemned progeny for generations to lives of misery. Jesus knew that people would disagree with The Bible but that is what it teaches us. When King David succumbed to Bathsheba's taking a bath right outside his private balcony the consequences were severe. Very severe indeed. His child would be blasted and suffer a lingering death. No-one made up a name for David's carrying on and although the child would these days get some diagnosis or other, no-one suggested any other cause than God. Obviously as the King chosen by God nothing was going to happen to David so he got the husband killed, married Bathsheba, and produced the wisest man who ever lived.

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                        • angel.
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                          • Jul 2019
                          • 6

                          #102
                          Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

                          Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                          You may have heard of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), sometimes also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME), post-viral fatigue syndrome (PVFS) or chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome (CFIDS). It's the perfect illness to fake if you don't want to work. Simply mimic a collection of vague, subjective symptoms, shop around for a doctor who will give you the diagnosis you want, and sit back and watch your Social Security money roll in.

                          But even some secular doctors don't believe in CFS. It is, and always has been, a controversial diagnosis. There is no test or scan that can prove you have it and secular scientists can't even agree on what causes it or how to treat it -- which is exactly what you'd expect if it doesn't exist. As a good theoscientist, I won't accept the existence of something without evidence.

                          So what causes CFS? Let's look at the symptoms for clues (theoscientific explanation in red).
                          1. Fatigue Laziness
                          2. Loss of memory or concentration Laziness with comorbid retardation
                          3. Sore throat Psychosomatic
                          4. Enlarged lymph nodes in your neck or armpits Psychosomatic
                          5. Unexplained muscle pain Psychosomatic
                          6. Pain that moves from one joint to another without swelling or redness Definitely psychosomatic
                          7. Headache of a new type, pattern or severity Psychosomatic
                          8. Unrefreshing sleep Laziness
                          9. Extreme exhaustion lasting more than 24 hours after physical or mental exercise Laziness


                          As you can see, three of the symptoms are caused by laziness and the others are imaginary. According to the secular Wickedpedia, additional symptoms may include:
                          1. Muscle weakness Laziness
                          2. Increased sensitivity to light, sounds and smells Psychosomatic
                          3. Orthostatic intolerance Don't know what that is, so it's probably fake too
                          4. Digestive disturbances Possibly genuine, but nothing that can't be fixed by prayer and laxatives/ Immodium; certainly no excuse not to work
                          5. Depression (Another fake illness) Laziness
                          6. Painful and often slightly swollen lymph nodes Psychosomatic
                          7. Cardiac and respiratory problems Psychosomatic


                          As I have demonstrated, the underlying motive for pretending to have CFS is laziness. In order to be diagnosed with the "disease" one must lie to or deceive oneself or a doctor about having the imaginary symptoms. Laziness and lying are not illnesses; they are sins.


                          What the Bible says about laziness

                          Proverbs 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:

                          Proverbs 10:4-5 He becometh poor that dealeth with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich. He that gathereth in summer is a wise son: but he that sleepeth in harvest is a son that causeth shame.

                          Proverbs 10:26 As vinegar to the teeth, and as smoke to the eyes, so is the sluggard to them that send him.

                          Proverbs 12:24 The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.

                          Proverbs 12:27 The slothful man roasteth not that which he took in hunting: but the substance of a diligent man is precious.

                          Proverbs 13:4 The soul of the sluggard desireth, and hath nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat.

                          Proverbs 14:23 In all labour there is profit: but the talk of the lips tendeth only to penury.

                          Proverbs 18:9 He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster.

                          Proverbs 19:15 Slothfulness casteth into a deep sleep; and an idle soul shall suffer hunger.

                          Proverbs 20:4 The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; therefore shall he beg in harvest, and have nothing.

                          Proverbs 20:13 Love not sleep, lest thou come to poverty; open thine eyes, and thou shalt be satisfied with bread.

                          Proverbs 21:25 The desire of the slothful killeth him; for his hands refuse to labour.

                          Proverbs 24:30-34
                          30 I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;
                          31 And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down.
                          32 Then I saw, and considered it well: I looked upon it, and received instruction.
                          33 Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
                          34 So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth; and thy want as an armed man.

                          Proverbs 26:13-16
                          13 The slothful man saith, There is a lion in the way; a lion is in the streets.
                          14 As the door turneth upon his hinges, so doth the slothful upon his bed.
                          15 The slothful hideth his hand in his bosom; it grieveth him to bring it again to his mouth.
                          16 The sluggard is wiser in his own conceit than seven men that can render a reason.

                          Ecclesiastes 10:18 By much slothfulness the building decayeth; and through idleness of the hands the house droppeth through.

                          Romans 12:11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;

                          Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

                          Hebrews 6:12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.



                          The penalty for laziness

                          The penalty for laziness is starvation (2 Thes 3:10) and shunning (2 Thes 3:14). If this fails to produce repentance, then the lazy man is no better than an unbeliever (1 Tim 5:8) and will be damned to eternal torment (Mat 25:30).

                          2 Thessalonians 3:10-14
                          For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
                          11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
                          12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
                          13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
                          14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.

                          1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

                          Matthew 25:26-30
                          26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
                          27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
                          28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
                          29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
                          30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



                          What the Bible says about hard work

                          God commands hard work and self-reliance, and not doing what God says is sinning by omission (Jas 4:17).

                          Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

                          Colossians 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

                          1 Thessalonians 4:10-12
                          10 And indeed ye do it toward all the brethren which are in all Macedonia: but we beseech you, brethren, that ye increase more and more;
                          11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
                          12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.



                          What the Bible says about lying

                          Lev 19:11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

                          Prov 6:16-19
                          16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
                          17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
                          18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
                          19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

                          Prov 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight.

                          Prov 13:5 A righteous man hateth lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and cometh to shame.

                          Jn 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

                          Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

                          Col 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;



                          The penalty for lying

                          God will destroy liars.

                          Ps 5:6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

                          Liars will find themselves locked out of the heavenly city.

                          Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


                          Final exhortation

                          So you see, CFS is incompatible with True Christianity™ and eternal salvation. If you claim to have CFS and want to avoid the fires of hell, you must repent of your slothful, deceitful ways and embrace the Baptist work ethic. But please don't try to convince us that your fake illness exists.

                          Its caused by low metabolism and neck problems you uneducated man. It ruins lives to go die in a whole you ignorant pig unless you want to teach yourself some better loving morals

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                          • Isabella White
                            True Christian™ Icon of Feminine Virtue
                             
                            • Mar 2019
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                            #103
                            Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

                            Originally posted by angel. View Post
                            you ignorant pig
                            Young lady, that is no way to address a senior servant of . I will thank you to realize that Brother Pendergast is one of the finest Theophysicists of Almighty. You should be humbled and honored of the privilege to read of his advice on chronic fatigue syndrome -- as given to him by the . Furthermore, you have demonstrated, very clearly, that your potty mouth is the result of your rebellious upbringing!

                            I Corinthians 15:33 "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners."

                            If I were you, young lady, I would repent of my sins immediately!

                            II Corinthians 7:10 "For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death."

                            Sincerely, Isabella W.
                            (Mrs.) Isabella White

                            Hebrews 10:19 " Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the of "

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                            • Dana723
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                              Forum Member
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 771

                              #104
                              Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

                              Originally posted by angel. View Post
                              Its caused by low metabolism and neck problems you uneducated man. It ruins lives to go die in a whole you ignorant pig unless you want to teach yourself some better loving morals
                              So I'm guessing your name is ironic due to your very unangelic tone? Young kids today have no respect for their elders! Remember what happened to the boys who laughed and made fun of Elisha!


                              And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
                              2 Kings 2:23-24
                              Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
                              1 Corinthians 11:13

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                              • Dennis Lukes
                                Innkeeper for Christ
                                True Christian™
                                • Dec 2018
                                • 2388

                                #105
                                Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: A Fake Illness and a Lame Excuse for Laziness

                                Originally posted by angel. View Post
                                Its caused by low metabolism and neck problems
                                It is caused by sin, like all diseases.


                                Originally posted by angel. View Post
                                you uneducated man.
                                Yes, I'm sure you are so much more educated than Dr. Pim Pendergast, PhD.


                                Originally posted by angel. View Post
                                It ruins lives to
                                If somebody is so lazy and shiftless that it ruins their life, that's on them. Jesus hates the lazy, it's in the Bible.
                                I was sinking deep in sin far from the peaceful shore,
                                Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
                                But the Master of the Sea heard my despairing cry,
                                From the waters lifted me, now safe am I!

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