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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
    Honorary True Christian™
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    • May 2008
    • 13996

    #1

    Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

    A gentleman in my Men's Bible Study group brought up an interesting question, which I felt worth sharing with the learned folks at Landover.

    We were studying Mark 7, with the point being that we don't need to worry about Kosher dietary laws because only things from INSIDE a man make him unclean. However, Jacob Williams noted something of interest.

    Mark 7

    1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.

    2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.

    3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.

    4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.

    ...

    14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:

    15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

    16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.

    17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.

    18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

    19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
    If Jesus said that we shouldn't concern ourselves with hand-washing before eating, could that make our culture's fastidious hand-washing actually a sin? And could it also prove that so-called "germs" do NOT cause disease?

    Is it possible that all those hand-washing signs in restaurant restrooms are actually encouraging the workers to defile themselves, by presenting an outward clean appearance as whited sepulchres, while within they are naught but rot and decay?
    Bible boring? Nonsense!
    Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
    You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!
  • SayvedByTheLord
    Sinner Who Has Found the Truth©
    True Christian™
    • May 2007
    • 3151

    #2
    Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

    15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
    Rev Rodimer, you are an ordained minister. Please tell this is not a fecal reference.


    Leviticus 26:27-29

    27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
    28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
    29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

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    • Ezekiel Bathfire
      Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
      Christ's Rottweiler
       
      • Jan 2008
      • 22889

      #3
      Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

      Of course Jesus is correct; of course the Scribes and Pharisees are wrong. So who are the villains of this piece? Secular scientists! Since the days of that slimy frog Pasteur, they have been telling us that we must wash daily, if not hourly, that food must be treated as poisonous unless properly prepared, that children must not play near the sewage pipe, etc. Namby-pamby rubbish!

      Now you read the article from which this is taken:
      Dr. Koichiro Fujita, a parasitologist at the Tokyo Medical and Dental University and author of many books on hygienic Japan, including "Cleanliness Is a Sickness," is concerned about his country's love affair with antibacterial goods. Fujita says this fetishistic sanitation is giving the Japanese allergies, dermatitis, asthma and generally out-of-whack immune systems.
      "We human beings used to possess immune cells to deal with outside germs and parasites," Fujita told Newsweek. "But the cleanliness boom took away the job of those cells. They became unemployed. That is why they began to react to such items as pollen and ticks."
      While some antibacterial products don't affect bacteria any more than soap and water do, other products really do kill bacteria, raising the worry that fast-moving bacteria will quickly evolve mechanisms to survive them. This could add one more immunity to the bacterial arsenal and make the evil superbacteria that dwell in hospitals -- bacteria that gobble antibiotics as a tasty appetizer before they feast on your living flesh, for example -- even harder to kill.

      For example, in the lab, bacteria can acquire resistance to triclosan, the most widely used antibacterial agent. Charles Rock, a researcher studying triclosan resistance at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tenn., says, "We consider this to be a serious public health concern." If we keep tossing triclosan in products like lotions, fabrics and kitchen cleansers, Rock fears, "the widespread use of the drug will lead to the appearance of resistant organisms that will eventually compromise the usefulness of triclosan, and other antibacterials that interact with the same target."
      Can we see Moses sluicing everything down with some disinfectant? Did Jeremiah insist that the chicken was thoroughly cooked? Was the manna shrink wrapped in hygienic conditions? Where is Jonah with the vile contents of a Whale’s stomach? Is not dung-bread delicious?

      These hellbound scientists have created a problem and now are solving it! If they had listened to God in the first place, we could have saved a whole lot of time – as usual!
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      • Pastor Billy-Reuben
        Senior Pastor
        VP of Evangelical Outreach
        On FIRE for Jesus
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 5812

        #4
        Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

        Washing hands isn't a sin, but the ritualistic handwashing that the Pharisees and the modern-day Pharisees in the health department insist on is a pointless exercise, and they are wrong for insisting on it.

        I wash my hands when they are sticky from handling food, or when I shower, or when I come in from working in my garden and I have red clay all over them, but that's about it.

        And you are right. This verse shows that Jesus, who is God, who is the Word made flesh, who knows everything there is to know about the world, says that the germ theory of disease is bunk. That's good enough for me.

        Pastor Billy-Reuben
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        • Rev. M. Rodimer
          Honorary True Christian™
          Forum Member
          • May 2008
          • 13996

          #5
          Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

          Thank you, gentlemen! I'll be removing those pesky signs from the church restrooms tonight.
          Bible boring? Nonsense!
          Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
          You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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          • Pilgrim Glory
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            • Nov 2008
            • 6

            #6
            Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

            Praise the Lord. Those heathen xperts if they can't explain something its always teeny dots that only they can see. Imagine believing in something you cant see. They say u cant see God. Burning bush I say. Only wash hands in extremes follow the word of the Lord.

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            • Mister Brasil
              True Christian™
              True Christian™
              • Jul 2008
              • 518

              #7
              Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

              Look-- God has always been plain with us. He said that if we love and worship him, he will reward us, not only in Heaven, but on Earth.

              Why-- WHY?-- would God plague us with a horde of invisible demons that we have no way of protecting ourselves against? The liberals might argue that God works in mysterious ways, but that's intellectually lax. If God's ways are so mysterious that we are completely incapable of divining them, then how can we possibly argue that God is loving and not hateful? His ways would be too mysterious for us to make decisions like that.

              God has locusts. Isn't that enough to punish the wicked? And I don't need no microscope to see locusts.

              If God was so eager to protect His chosen, then He could have stood to focus a little less on righteous conquest (which, lemme ask Israel, has it helped much, in the long-term?) and a little more on hand-washing. Now I know God is loving, and generous, kind and all-knowing. How can I reconcile that with germ theory? It's impossible.

              Germ theory is bunk, and anyone who argues differently needs to accept God's healing light into his soul.
              Acts 13:8 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

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              • Smallaxe
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                • Dec 2008
                • 12

                #8
                Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

                Where did the Pharisees get the idea of handwashing from?

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                • Mr. Seth Cochran
                  On Parole
                  BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 753

                  #9
                  Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

                  I consider hand-washing to be a queer practice. Making your hands smelly seems like something only worldly women do and I don't want anything to do with that.

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                  • Meek and Humble
                    Biblical Poet, Warrior and Scholar
                    Biblical Black Belt
                    Jr. Pastor
                    True Christian™
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 6197

                    #10
                    Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

                    There's no such thing as germs. The Lord healeth and the Lord maketh thee sick!

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                    • BrotherBill
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                      • Dec 2008
                      • 63

                      #11
                      Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

                      15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
                      I think that this also proves that a man who is homosexually raped is not defiled.
                      If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?

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                      • Talitha
                        Deaconess
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                        • Apr 2026
                        • 15118

                        #12
                        Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

                        Originally posted by BrotherBill View Post
                        I think that this also proves that a man who is homosexually raped is not defiled.
                        He will almost certainly get the AIDS from such a defilement. Proving that Jesus does indeed hate Homosexurals.

                        Brother Bill, we shouldn't discuss such things with so many Not-Gay True Christians(tm) present.
                        Especially demure and innocent True Christian(tm) NOT GAY Ladies like myself.

                        Sister Talitha

                        Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.


                        HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
                        being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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                        • Pastor Ezekiel
                          Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                           
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 78556

                          #13
                          Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

                          Originally posted by BrotherBill View Post
                          I think that this also proves that a man who is homosexually raped is not defiled.
                          Have you had that problem, freind?

                          You can share your painful story with us. We're True Christians(tm) and nobody cares more about you than we do.

                          Except for Jesus, of course.
                          Who Will Jesus Damn?

                          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                          • BrotherBill
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                            Forum Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 63

                            #14
                            Re: Did Jesus refute germ theory of disease?

                            Originally posted by Talitha View Post
                            Brother Bill, we shouldn't discuss such things with so many Not-Gay True Christians™ present.
                            Especially demure and innocent True Christian™ NOT GAY Ladies like myself.
                            I'm sorry sister, it was an impure topic to bring up on a forum designated for glorifying Him and His creations. I will bring this topic up elsewhere.
                            If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?

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