[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Well the earth works differently from the microwave ovens. Microwave ovens take microwaves and rapidly bounce them off of metal walls however the earth isn't surrounded by metal walls. Allow the microwaves to escape after hitting the earth's crust, which has lot's of metal ore in it.

It would seem a simple matter to cook a potato if it can heat something as large as the Earth.

Brother Jack, has your spud finished cooking?

[Cakeminer]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Well the earth works differently from the microwave ovens. Microwave ovens take microwaves and rapidly bounce them off of metal walls however the earth isn't surrounded by metal walls. Allow the microwaves to escape after hitting the earth's crust, which has lot's of metal ore in it.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

There are a couple of things you don't understand about heat and light energy. First of all we can start off by saying that the sun puts out more than just wave lengths that produce yellow light. Including a wide range of wavelengths not visible to the human eye. Including X-rays, Ultra-Violet rays, Microwaves, and Gamma Rays. Microwaves are actually the wave form that heats the planet the most. Microwaves act as a type of Thermal Radiation, or heat energy. The interesting thing is that microwaves have lower frequency which allows them to move over much greater distances and still have a lot of remaining energy. Hince why the sun can heat the earth from millions of miles away.

We are being bombarded with microwaves? I have just put a nice jacket potato on my lawn. How many minutes will it take?

YiC

Jack

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Including a wide range of wavelengths not visible to the human eye.

Heb:11:1: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

You see you have Faith, it is just misplaced. You put your faith in man, whereas we put it in God, Who is equally 'not seen'.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

There are a couple of things you don't understand about heat and light energy. First of all we can start off by saying that the sun puts out more than just wave lengths that produce yellow light. Including a wide range of wavelengths not visible to the human eye. Including X-rays, Ultra-Violet rays, Microwaves, and Gamma Rays. Microwaves are actually the wave form that heats the planet the most. Microwaves act as a type of Thermal Radiation, or heat energy. The interesting thing is that microwaves have lower frequency which allows them to move over much greater distances and still have a lot of remaining energy. Hince why the sun can heat the earth from millions of miles away.

Sooooo...a microwave oven "millions of miles away" keeps the Earth warm?



I'd hate to see that electric bill!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Cakeminer]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

There are a couple of things you don't understand about heat and light energy. First of all we can start off by saying that the sun puts out more than just wave lengths that produce yellow light. Including a wide range of wavelengths not visible to the human eye. Including X-rays, Ultra-Violet rays, Microwaves, and Gamma Rays. Microwaves are actually the wave form that heats the planet the most. Microwaves act as a type of Thermal Radiation, or heat energy. The interesting thing is that microwaves have lower frequency which allows them to move over much greater distances and still have a lot of remaining energy. Hince why the sun can heat the earth from millions of miles away.

[Free Market Fred]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Well, I can definitely tell you that the sun lamps at the Hong Kong Country Club are not millions of miles away. My chauffeur assures me it's no more than 10 kilometers from my penthouse. I'm not sure what that is in American miles, because I don't do the commie metric system, but I'm damn sure that 10 km is way less than "millions of miles."


The Sun - maybe millions of nanometers away, but not miles.


I can reach the Planets with just my Learjet. Who is NASA kidding?

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for space exploration. Building the useless Space Shuttle that costs 10-times more than the infinitely more capable Apollo space program it replaced has been a gold mine for my company. And we've got great hopes for NASA's future once Sarah Palin becomes president, including a full-scale replica of the Starship Enterprise - it won't actually fly, but with a $trillion in taxpayer subsidies, it will be a profitable tourist attraction at the soon-to-be privatized Kennedy Space Center (which will be renamed the Ronald Reagan Space Theme Park).


New job opportunity for Bonzo

[Cursed]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

And the lord sayeth unto you...
Go piffleETH yourselves you ignorant bastards

Scriptural source, please?

[Sister Fuchue]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

And the lord sayeth unto you...
Go FUCKETH yourselves you ignorant bastards

[MisterM]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You two are both absolutely right. The sun IS further than 500 miles away, and the assumptions I made in the OP ARE invalid. This was discussed later in this thread, and we used trigonometry and the angle of the sun to calculate the correct distance.

This I love most in LBC. Even the Pastor admit if they do mistake and are ready to improve. I really don't understand why some people claim we do not take facts seriously.


YiC, Miikkael

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

This has strengthened my faith in Jesus and his temporary death on the cross even more. Pastor, you are putting me well on the track to salvation I believe

I feel a VICTORY coming on

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Mr.Warren]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.

Here is the proof:

To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.

Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .

The LORD is so good to me. Praise the sweet name of Jesus.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

This has strengthened my faith in Jesus and his temporary death on the cross even more. Pastor, you are putting me well on the track to salvation I believe

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The maths is incorrect, I apologise for correcting the OP but it is.

But heat travels as infra red and the Sun's heat is UV radiation.

Even if you say 'sunbeams' are what travels the suns heat they still could of travelled millions of miles as it is light. We get light from stars which are even further away.

UV is not "heat"

There are a number of comments from divers unenlightened souls throughout the thread concerning the everchanging gravitational hypothesis (proposed by Newton, de-bunked by science's own Einstein), "orbits" and "the habitable zone" (according to their own deluded philosophy the earth does not lie within this "habitable zone") and assorted gobbledygook: this post is a good example. It might be appropriate to mention Ecclesiasties 1:5 again:

ECCLESIASTES 1:5 The Sunne also ariseth, and the Sunne goeth downe, and hasteth to the place where he arose.
©1611

Science is never consistent, neither with its own hypotheses nor with the reality we encounter on a daily basis nor with GOD'S UNCHANGING WORD. We do actually read the literature of false "science" and understand what we read. That is how we know it is false. Again I will refer to Daniel 1:

DANIEL 1
3 And the king spake vnto Ashpenaz the master of his Eunuches, that he should bring certaine of the children of Israel, and of the kings seed, and of the Princes:
4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well fauoured, and skilfull in all wisedome, and cunning in knowledge, and vnderstanding science, and such as had abilitie in them to stand in the Kings palace, and whom they might teach the learning, and the tongue of the Caldeans.
5 And the King appointed them a daily prouision of the kings meat, and of the wine which he dranke: so nourishing them three yeeres, that at the ende thereof they might stand before the king.
©1611

God tells us that not all science is false. That is the difference between TRUE SCIENCE (all of which will support The Bible preserved for us by God who actually made everything) and SATANIC FALSE SCIENCE which not only contradicts God's Perfect Word but has yet to retain any of its dogma for more than a century.

God has not changed in SIX MILLENNIA!

PRAISE HIM ! !

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I'm no physicist, but I remember when I took high-school physics, I learned how to calculate the gravitational force of planets (that includes the sun and the earth), based on these variables:

Fg = G (m1*m2)/(d^2)

The distance between the sun is used as a variable. And it was written to be more than 500 miles.

Yes but the maths used in the original post is incorrect. He uses variables that cannot measure distance.

You two are both absolutely right. The sun IS further than 500 miles away, and the assumptions I made in the OP ARE invalid. This was discussed later in this thread, and we used trigonometry and the angle of the sun to calculate the correct distance.

This thread is over a hundred pages, and I don't blame you for not reading the whole thing. Here is the link to the post with the correction: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...255#post446255

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

There is a difference between a theory and hypothesis.

I read what you wrote and it reminded me of Pastor Glen McClaine. He postulated that, as the Universe is infinite (it has to be because God is infinite) then “Gravitation” rather than “Gravity” is the force you are seeking.

Imagine (if you are capable) an astronaut in a rocket. When the Rocket is in space it accelerates at 9.8meters per second per second. The astronaut cannot see outside but experiences his own mass. The astronaut would not know if the spaceship were on the ground at Cape Kennedy or actually accelerating through space.

Pastor Glen McClaine remarked, “Do we accept this as a coincidence? No. Is it not clear to the weakest minded atheist that the earth is accelerating at 9.8m/s/s thus giving rise to “Gravitation”.”

In later years, he recanted and came to see that this theory broke Occam’s Razor and the simplest answer remained, “God does it.”

I hope you will stop protesting and embarrassing yourself by exposing your ignorance.