[OnYourKnees]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

I'm not talking color, I'm talking chemical composition. And that won't change, if it did, the ball would most likely change in a noticeable manner so that it no longer appeared as green.

Maybe God changes the chemical composition regularly, when you're not watching.

How can you tell for sure?

[Peter]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

Maybe God changes the chemical composition regularly, when you're not watching.

How can you tell for sure?

You have a lot of fantasy.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

You have a lot of fantasy.

On the contrary, we True Christians™ are lucky enough to reside in the all-too-real world that Jesus has provided for us.

You worship monkeys, we worship God almighty, who created everything you see in this world in 6 days flat, between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago. You worship Hairy Potter, we worship Jesus Christ, who temporarily suffered and died on the cross for our sins.

By the way, eternal hellfire is no fantasy either. You won't like it, but by then it will be too late to undo the depravity you've indulged in. I hope you'll let Jesus into your heart and leave the fantasy world that your false prophets of science brainwash you with.

[Daniel]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

The point is that they are not mentioned. You'd think that, in a description of the creation of the universe, other planets, galaxies, etc would be mentioned. But they aren't. That proves that the bible does not recognize or acknowledge the existence of other planets. It only recognizes Earth because the human writers of the bible only knew that Earth exists. Look what happened to poor Galileo.

God does what he wants. If he doesn't want to tell you something, he doesn't. Get over it. Besides, it's probably for your own good. God can't tell the unsaved everything because if he did, you'd take it, warp it around, and spew it back out to the rest of the world as you sinners have a way of doing. Does it really matter why other planets aren't mentioned? Matthew 16:26 says "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?" I think you need to get your life on this planet in line with the word of God before you go dealing with the "other planets".

[Peter]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

On the contrary, we True Christians™ are lucky enough to reside in the all-too-real world that Jesus has provided for us.

You worship monkeys, we worship God almighty, who created everything you see in this world in 6 days flat, between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago. You worship Hairy Potter, we worship Jesus Christ, who temporarily suffered and died on the cross for our sins.

By the way, eternal hellfire is no fantasy either. You won't like it, but by then it will be too late to undo the depravity you've indulged in. I hope you'll let Jesus into your heart and leave the fantasy world that your false prophets of science brainwash you with.

I don't worship anyone. I'm not afraid of hell, it doesn't exist.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

I don't worship anyone. I'm not afraid of hell, it doesn't exist.

So why exactly are you here, anyway?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

Yes, but what I was maintining that while color perception may differ it doesn't matter, as the composition which CAUSES those perceptions remains at a constant!
So right back at you!!

Yes, just like the number of legs a grasshopper has (4) remains at a constant, but people may perceive that number in different ways, depending on how Saved they are.

Fine, gimme a lab, some lab techs, a place where you can come into the lab and see tennis balls dissected and their different chemical components analyzed, in a bunch of the same type of tennis balls, and then you'll see something.
So to you too.

In other words, you can't, can you? You have no proof whatsoever, other than your own fanciful assertions.

I don't worship anyone. I'm not afraid of hell, it doesn't exist.

What about the Indonesian Tsunami and Hurricane Katrina? It is widely acknowledged that God caused both of them, so if God doesn't exist, how could they?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

I don't worship anyone. I'm not afraid of hell, it doesn't exist.

Once again, do you have any proof for this?
Do you have any proof for ANYTHING you say?
How did you become this close-minded?

[R-R-R]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

You have a lot of fantasy.

And that would be a good thing for you science fanatics as well... Beceause if you want to falsify your theory (which is the aim of the scientific method since Carl Popper if I recall correctly) then you should keep an open mind, so you will think of ways that might falsify your theory.

In the case of the color of a tennis ball... Although it seems unlikely to you, there is the possibility that it actually does change when you aren't observing it... And how can you disprove such a statement? Never, because every time you observe it (or try to measure it with equipement or camera's or whatever) the ball remains unchanged. Whenever it isn't observed, it could change. And you'll never know about it. This doesn't mean it's impossible, it just means that you cannot prove it changes colour and that you can't disprove that it doesn't change either...

Such is the scientific method... Frustrating, isn't it?

Oh, and by the way, you aren't afraid of hell because it supposedly doesn't exist? Because you haven't observed it yet, right? So whatever you can't observe and measure just isn't there? You'd be surprised...

[G-Baby]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

Evolution has been proven? How? By lining up some fossils that differ slightly in skeletal structure and then stating they must have developed from one species into the next?

With 'evolution is proven' you must mean that science claims to have proven it. Then again, if you knew the errors in the scientific ways you'd be less fond of it I reckon. Some people claim religions are based on indoctrination, yet science works in the same way. They claim to know it all, and can do such great things... And for the average Joe this sounds convincing because they lack in-depth knowledge about where science fails. Hence the many followers science has.

Give me an example of a failure.. I think only discribing the earth, sun and moon is a bit of strange if there's mars, venus etc..



And that's why science is satanic. Because it leads people away from God. There's some logic for ya'.

Well, we scientists are not saying that there's a Devil, are we... SO who's the satanical one..

See above..

[R-R-R]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

[1]
Give me an example of a failure.. I think only discribing the earth, sun and moon is a bit of strange if there's mars, venus etc..

[2]
Well, we scientists are not saying that there's a Devil, are we... SO who's the satanical one..

[1]
An example of failures of science? Well, maybe shortcomings might be a better word, as with failures I refer to the matter where scientific inquiry fails to give an answer that is beyond question. Such as, for example, whether or not god exists. In general, the existence of objects and phenomena that aren't measurable or in other ways perceivable. Science needs to perceive in order to be able to formulate its hypothesis and try to falsify it. Where science cannot perceive, it is bound to fail.

The Bible though states that God is real and that He does exist. Science may not concur with the Bible because they operate on a different level. Scientists perceive, True Christians believe. Of course, the former is more prone to have shortcomings than the latter, for above given reasons.

Also, matters that can be called failures in science, more or less, are the theories once held for truth that now have been falsified. Every progress science makes, by falsifying their previous theory and replacing it with a new thesis, is also a direct proof they were wrong at first. And they might still be wrong as their new theory only waits to be falsified. All science tries to do is disprove its own theories, it's actual aim is to show it has been wrong before. Yet they are so arrogant they claim the new theory is more trustworthy and closer to the truth, which is not necessarily the case.

The Bible, the KJV that is, doesn't change. And the essence of it, that God exists, cannot be disproven by science even if they wanted to. Though they can't prove its content either so they demonise Bible metaphysics.

[2]
Exactly by not saying there is a Satan, or by saying Satan doesn't exist, you are being satanic. Now, read closely; the definition of all people except True Christians is satanist. At least on this forum it is. So I would be an satanist as well, for I am not yet Truly Saved as for example Pastor Ezekiel is. Now, science doesn't say Satan exists, correct? Because they cannot prove (or disprove for that fact) his existence. Such a belief leads to the idea that there is no hell that should be avoided, science advocates a life that can be potentially limitless sinful. Why? If there is no hell to fear, why live how God commanded us to do?

Science leads away from the Lord, as is Satan's purpose and aim. They are very similar, hance we call it satanic. Satan's greatest achievement was making people not believe in him!

[esther (On Moderation)]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

Your reason is gash and your heads are full of that thing that grows in fields whose name I don't know in your language. The Bible started out as a bunch of bedtime stories that some twat decided to make compulsory. And lastly do people in your country think that way about earthquakes and floods? You should throw your TVs away and please throw whatever you're smoking out the window.

[R-R-R]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

Your reason is gash and your heads are full of that thing that grows in fields whose name I don't know in your language. Rice? The Bible started out as a bunch of bedtime stories that some twat decided to make compulsory. And how did this little pealr of wisdom reach your? And lastly do people in your country think that way about earthquakes and floods? Not all of them, but they are hellbound anyway, just like you. You should throw your TVs away and please throw whatever you're smoking out the window. I don't smoke... But you will after you transpire. In hell that is!

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[esther (On Moderation)]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

No, not rice, that other thing which is yellow and long and isn't corn... I GOT IT, barley is what I meant to say. It isn't a little pearl, it is centuries of accumulated pish coming out of my head. I'm annoying, eh? I know... I tend to drive people insane but who cares? Okay, I don't really. The flames and stuff in hell are a metaphor. A very wise person has once said that. Hey, you should watch Life of Brian. I'm not kidding here, it's hilarious and serious at once.

[R-R-R]

Re: Other planets, how do you explain them?

No, not rice, that other thing which is yellow and long and isn't corn... I GOT IT, barley is what I meant to say. You're not even making sense to yourself apparently. It isn't a little pearl, it is centuries of accumulated pish coming out of my head. Centuries of pish coming out of your head? What kind of demon are you? I'm annoying, eh? I know... I tend to drive people insane but who cares? Okay, I don't really. It seems you've driven yourself insane... The flames and stuff in hell are a metaphor. A very wise person has once said that. And who might that have been? Hey, you should watch Life of Brian. I'm not kidding here, it's hilarious and serious at once. It's satire... Maybe you should join one of those suicide commando's .

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