Thalidomide Children

[Father O'Malley]

In the 60's some pregnant women were given a drug containing thalidomide to help them with their pregnancy pains/discomfort. (Why a woman would not embrace her pain is confounding)

http://www.acpoc.org/library/1992_01_003.asp

This drug sometimes caused severe defects in the babies.



Since then, some of those who survived and managed to get married and have children of their own have seen their defect genetically passed down to their children. This is one of the first documented cases of a drug causing defects in a baby that can be passed down to a third generation.

Glenn Harrison feels a pang of recognition when he gazes at his 3-year-old daughter, Georgina. Unlike her able-bodied brothers, Jason, 9, and Bobby, 6, she was born with deformities strikingly similar to her father's: abnormally short legs and pincerlike hands, with two fingers on each. Reportedly, 10 of the 325 offspring of thalidomide children have impairments resembling their parents', though no genetic link has been clearly established. Harrison, 36, will make no excuses to his russet-haired daughter. "I can't apologize," he says. "You have to learn to take it on the chin."

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20143585,00.html

Can this be viewed as proof of evolution or creationism? Surely the parents DNA has been altered by the drug his mother took. Just as his child had a small chance of being a ginger (red hair), so did he have the small chance of inheriting his father's own birth defect.

[Talitha]

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We don't ever get Flid babies in Freehold.
I guess Jesus loves True Christians(tm) too much.

[Father O'Malley]

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There were only 12,000

BTW, here's one

http://www.assistnews.net/strategic/strat036.htm

[Original Gothster]

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I had a john way back when who was one of those flipper kids. It was a little creepy, but at least I knew he was never gonna smack me around.

I kinda liked the guy. He was always polite and he was really quick. I mean like 30 seconds quick. I guess since he didn't have real arms I was his only outlet.

[Nobar King]

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It's just another cripple that the taxpayers are going to have to pay for. All of those thlids should be sterilized and their offspring, too, to save the rest of us from having to pay for them the rest of their lives.

[Father O'Malley]

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Oh and thank the US government for not approving of the drug. Thankfully no thalidomide drugs were available in the USA

[Father O'Malley]

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It's just another cripple that the taxpayers are going to have to pay for. All of those thlids should be sterilized and their offspring, too, to save the rest of us from having to pay for them the rest of their lives.

So you want them sterilized because their DNA has been altered?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Oh and thank the US government for not approving of the drug. Thankfully no thalidomide drugs were available in the USA

Unsurprisingly, as Eisenhower, Republican, was in charge during the Thalidomide episode. He too would have known that women are to suffer in child-bearing.

[John Scopes]

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So you want them sterilized because their DNA has been altered?

Ahh DNA, my favorite subject.

A relatively current theory is tha Thalidomide intercalates iteslf into the embryonic DNA, it is particularly compatible with the purine sites in DNA. This intercalation has impacts upon the promoter regions of the genes controlling the development of limbs, ears, and eyes. There is no evidence however, that this defect is passed on, it is localized and caused by this side effect of the drug.

[Father O'Malley]

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There is no evidence however, that this defect is passed on, it is localized and caused by this side effect of the drug.

read this link

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20143585,00.html

[Professor Bessemer]

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As a Scientheist, I am skeptical about this whole incident. As we all know, the Lord punishes sinning parents by afflicting their offspring with various righteous punishments. And while I have no actual data or studies I can sight, I am positive that drugs had nothing to do with these deformed children.

The fact that most of these supposed "Thalidomide Babies" were missing proper arms points to chronic self abuse by one or both parents. God smited the children of these habitual masturbators in a way that learned Christians, like the True Christians™ here at Landover, would understand His lesson.

It does not surprise me at all that this happened in Godless countries like Germany and Japan. Onanism is endemic to these hotbeds of heathenism.

[Father O'Malley]

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As a Scientheist, I am skeptical about this whole incident.

Naturally. Deny, deny, deny.

[Brother V]

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Doesn't this pretty much disprove evolution?

According to wiki

Natural selection is the process by which heritable traits that make it more likely for an organism to survive and successfully reproduce become more common in a population over successive generations. It is a key mechanism of evolution.

So, if that's the case, then flipper armed kids must possess some sort of trait that would make them more desirable to mate with.

Evolution would state that only people with desirable traits would have those traits passed down to future generations. Natural Selection would have you believe that only pretty people should mate, unfortunately, natural selection doesn't take "settling" into account.

How does settling affect natural selection/evolution? Would that eventually produce a species of pretty people and a species of ugly fat people? Why are humans the only species that has pity sex?

Answer that evolutionists!!!

Thalidomide babies disprove evolution!!!

PRAISE JESUS!!!

YIC
V

[Father Maurice Lester]

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...I guess since he didn't have real arms I was his only outlet.

I think you mean inlet.


Interestingly enough... thalidomide is being re-introduced into the medical market as it has therapeutic value for sufferers of certain dire conditions. There are many mysteries to the beautiful world our Lord has given us and it is important we study them with a good dollop of the common sense he gave many of us... remembering that we were created in his image.

As for the victims of thalidomide, it is our duty as Christians to treat them with the utmost love and dignity and not as if they were circus freaks in some corn-husker bumpkin village.


Bless you, my suspiciously resemblant reprobates,
Father Mo



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[Father O'Malley]

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Doesn't this pretty much disprove evolution?

According to wiki

wiki?

So, if that's the case, then flipper armed kids must possess some sort of trait that would make them more desirable to mate with.

The point is that a trait, desirable or not, has been introduced into the hereditary lines of the parent by an external variable (his mother taking thalidomide) and made its way to the next generation.

Evolution would state that only people with desirable traits would have those traits passed down to future generations.

Natural Selection would have you believe that only pretty people should mate, unfortunately, natural selection doesn't take "settling" into account.

How does settling affect natural selection/evolution? Would that eventually produce a species of pretty people and a species of ugly fat people? Why are humans the only species that has pity sex?

evolution has nothing to do with pretty or ugly people, since those genes dont really give anyone a survival advantage.