[G-Baby]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Either the accident was a result of God's direct interference, or He allowed it to happen.
Either way, it was God's will.
Did god wanted that the man who caused the accident was drunken? ROFL


Because God says so duh!
Fags for instance, deserve death:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:
They shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13
Jeah, like I said. Following only the word of God won't help you in this society where a LAW tells you who is "guilty".


Is this what you regard science?
Starting with an ASSUMPTION, and then regarding it as fact, and using that "fact" to "disprove" arguments?

Are you stupid in some way?
Can you spell CIRCULAR LOGIC, friend?
1) Why are you describing yourself?
2) HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE TO ASK TO SPELL SOMETHING THAT YOU TYPED...
3) No, that's not what we regard science. We regard science:
- Step 1: Thinking how something works, why something works like that or what works like that, or having a statement wich you think is true.
- Step 2: Trying to prove that statement. If proven right, see next step. If proven false, statement is false.
- Step 3: Make a note of the experiment. Make a note of the result.
- Step 4: Making scientific laws, which are finally proven and so, true.




No, they have "proved" (ie claimed) mathematically that the universe expands. That's it!
And if the big bang is the beginning of the universe, then what caused it?
Do you seriously believe that something can come from nothing?
1) Why are you describing your own believe?
2) What was there before the big bang? Easy question: the universe existed of a very hot and very close matery. Very hot: more than 10 billion Kelvin. Very close: It existed of many little parts which formed hydrogen, helium and lithium after the big bang.



WRONG.
Jesus is in Heaven, but He is alive.

And are you seriously claiming that all life must be on earth?
I thought you silly secularists believed in life on "other planets"?
You contradict yourself.
xD He's alive, but he's in heaven. Nice contradiction!!!
No, we are just taking the earth, because we know so much about the earth. And we are giving answers to Christians who say that God only "exists" on earth, and that other planets don't exist. So why involve other planets in this answer?


Yes, but Jesus sometimes used something called PARABLES.
That's one of them, and it says so right there in the Bible.
Whoooo, satanistical parables of eating menflesh!!!


No, they don't. Hence the name "so-called", moron.
Who's the moron? Following an imaginary friend?



Mr. pot, have you met miss kettle yet?

Mr. Baptist, have you met God yet? LOLZ

[G-Baby]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

God knows all possible future and all things. Everything that happens on Earth is God's Will. Either He causes everything, or He allows it.
Ahah! You said it yourself. On Earth, what about the other planets?
So why would god allow war, if his creation is so perfect...

Therefore, God either caused an amputee to lose a limb, or He knowingly allowed it. Either way, it was God's Will that the limb be lost.
That's why I think God has some satanical idees!

Because selfish fornicators choose to keep having children that they can't support, instead of abstaining as taught in Godly Abstinence-Only Sex Education courses.
Science has a word for that: NATURAL SELECTION Having as much as children to pass your gen's to the next generation!

See where Free Will gets humans? 6.5 billion and counting.
And you are 1 of them...

All are born into sin. None are innocent. Who are these "innocent" people?
People who didn't commit a crime.

However, God will kill everyone eventually. Even you.
Come on, God! Give me a piece! I practice taekwondo, come and get my! (He ain't there yet, he ain't there yet, he ain't there yet... )

Such as?

Disagreeing with "science", which is the method of observing things through faulty human senses and interpretation, is not the same thing as "nonsense".
Saying that the earth was created by God 6000 years ago...
Yes it is, because science are facts, arised and proven by experiments. Like I said, if the senses and/or interpretations were false experienced, we wouldn't go any further with it.


God owns all of us. Why should you question who He decides to put in charge of others? You're not God.
I'm happy for not being someone imaginary
I don't think God has a sales slip!
And why would God wanna have someone like me, of who you guys say has been cursed by Satan?

There is none good, no, not one.

Except True Christians, and bad things don't happen to True Christians.

Name one True Christian to whom a bad thing has happened!

(No, Sister Tali, breaking that nail doesn't count. You know God did that because otherwise your manicurist wouldn't have had enough to pay her rent after tithing that month.)
Well, why do mortal Christians die? You are getting some of the same ideas like Hitler had. 1 GOOD RACE. So who's the bad guy...

Because people ate the evidence. Today, they burn a face into a tortilla and sell it for $10,000. Back then, there was no Internet, and no eBay.
Why don't they eat the body of Christ? If it's so important..
No, the reason why there is no evidence is because ----> GOD IS IMAGINARY

Jesus demands that we love Him through faith. What point would there be in faith if Jesus went about revealing Himself left and right?

None!
So if I say that I was born from a dog, and I look through the "eyes of faith" ( ), I AM born from a dog? Did you here Jesus demanding it? Why do you have faith in a dead men?

We're not Catholics, so we don't believe we're eating flesh and drinking blood.
So why do you say so?

No True Christian has been divorced after being Saved, unless his or her spouse was unSaved, in which case the True Christian had to follow God's command not to be unequally yoked with the unSaved.

And what if both woman and husband are "Saved?"

[tommy]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

What we have here is another teenager, who knows nothing about science and still uses it against "ignorant" Christians.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by OnYourKnees
God knows all possible future and all things. Everything that happens on Earth is God's Will. Either He causes everything, or He allows it.
Ahah! You said it yourself. On Earth, what about the other planets?

Don't be an idiot. Well, don't be MORE of an idiot.

So why would god allow war, if his creation is so perfect...

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but if you bothered to read the Bible instead of claiming to know what's in it, you'd know He has repeatedly DEMANDED wars, mass executions, and genocides. Duh.

Therefore, God either caused an amputee to lose a limb, or He knowingly allowed it. Either way, it was God's Will that the limb be lost.

That's why I think God has some satanical idees!

God created Satan, dimwit. Satan cannot give God ideas.

Because selfish fornicators choose to keep having children that they can't support, instead of abstaining as taught in Godly Abstinence-Only Sex Education courses.

Science has a word for that: NATURAL SELECTION Having as much as children to pass your gen's to the next generation!

Ahh, so you say that it's science's fault that the world is horribly overpopulated and people are starving? What a wonderful thing, this science of yours.

All are born into sin. None are innocent. Who are these "innocent" people?

People who didn't commit a crime.

What part of "All are born into sin" do you not understand? Original Sin is conferred upon all before they are born, thanks to Adam and Eve disobeying God before they knew that it was a sin to disobey God.

Disagreeing with "science", which is the method of observing things through faulty human senses and interpretation, is not the same thing as "nonsense".

Saying that the earth was created by God 6000 years ago...
Yes it is, because science are facts, arised and proven by experiments. Like I said, if the senses and/or interpretations were false experienced, we wouldn't go any further with it.

How would you know if you were sensing things incorrectly, if your senses were inaccurate? YOU WOULDN'T.

God owns all of us. Why should you question who He decides to put in charge of others? You're not God.

I'm happy for not being someone imaginary old :cool:
I don't think God has a sales slip! old
And why would God wanna have someone like me, of who you guys say has been cursed by Satan?

Because you've been cursed to be the servants of the rest. Everybody can use a hand around the house.

There is none good, no, not one.

Except True Christians, and bad things don't happen to True Christians.

Name one True Christian to whom a bad thing has happened!

(No, Sister Tali, breaking that nail doesn't count. You know God did that because otherwise your manicurist wouldn't have had enough to pay her rent after tithing that month.)
Well, why do mortal Christians die? You are getting some of the same ideas like Hitler had. 1 GOOD RACE. So who's the bad guy...

Godwinned the thread already, eh? (Look up what it means to "Godwin" a thread.)
Mortal Christians die because their bodies stop working, or because God wants them to. Death isn't bad for a Christian, because they know that they will enter Heaven following Judgment. However, it does mean that we can't continue saving souls on earth.

Because people ate the evidence. Today, they burn a face into a tortilla and sell it for $10,000. Back then, there was no Internet, and no eBay.

Why don't they eat the body of Christ? If it's so important..
No, the reason why there is no evidence is because ----> GOD IS IMAGINARY

What evidence would you expect to remain of turning water into wine, or resurrecting a little girl?

Prove that God is imaginary. Stating it doesn't make it so.

Jesus demands that we love Him through faith. What point would there be in faith if Jesus went about revealing Himself left and right?

None!
So if I say that I was born from a dog, and I look through the "eyes of faith" ( ), I AM born from a dog? Did you here Jesus demanding it? Why do you have faith in a dead men?

No, that would make you an idiot.

We're not Catholics, so we don't believe we're eating flesh and drinking blood.

So why do you say so?

I just said that we don't. Catholics do.

No True Christian has been divorced after being Saved, unless his or her spouse was unSaved, in which case the True Christian had to follow God's command not to be unequally yoked with the unSaved.

And what if both woman and husband are "Saved?"

Then they don't have any reason for divorce, as each is incapable of sin.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

No he didn't, if the pain was caused by an accident, then the one who crashed into the amputee was responsible.

Friend,
You are missing the TRUE Christian point here; we Christians believe God is all powerful, all present and has perfect knowledge. Therefore nothing in this world can happen without God's knowledge or consent. That God does not heal amputees does not argue God doesn’t exist, it argues God wants them to be amputees.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Friend,
You are missing the TRUE Christian point here; we Christians believe God is all powerful, all present and has perfect knowledge. Therefore nothing in this world can happen without God's knowledge or consent. That God does not heal amputees does not argue God doesn’t exist, it argues God wants them to be amputees.

One would think such a conclusion to be rather obvious, Brother B-J. Why doesn't this Peter fellow get it? Or Godless-Baby?

Is not the simplest explanation the most likely? Our pal William of Ockham thought so. Perhaps Peter has heard of his Razor, which long preceded Gillette.

And the simplest explanation? "It is God's Will!"

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Did god wanted that the man who caused the accident was drunken? ROFL

He allowed it to happen, yes.

Jeah, like I said. Following only the word of God won't help you in this society where a LAW tells you who is "guilty".

I agree. It won't help you much in THIS society, or THIS world.. (Although God has still blessed us with very much.)
But it helps in the next.. I'll go to heaven, while you will burn in hell, I'll call that a big difference.
Because God is the only one who deems you guilty or innocent of being a vile sinner, NOBODY else.

1) Why are you describing yourself?

I am?
Why can't you spell or construct a coherent sentence, I wonder?

2) HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE TO ASK TO SPELL SOMETHING THAT YOU TYPED...

Just what are you talking about??
Are you suggesting that I should somehow TALK to you, in a WRIT forum, instead?
Besides, it is an expression.. As all people who are not totally clueless already knows.

3) No, that's not what we regard science. We regard science:
- Step 1: Thinking how something works, why something works like that or what works like that, or having a statement wich you think is true.
- Step 2: Trying to prove that statement. If proven right, see next step. If proven false, statement is false.
- Step 3: Make a note of the experiment. Make a note of the result.
- Step 4: Making scientific laws, which are finally proven and so, true.

BUT YOU HAVE NOT DISPROVEN GOD, THEREFORE YOU CANNOT, EVEN ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN DEFINITON OF SCIENCE:
SAY THAT HE DOES NOT EXIST.

That's why you're being a stupid hypocrite.
You don't even know your own religion! (ie "science")

1) Why are you describing your own believe?

I don't.
God is eternal and created the universe, that has nothing to do with nothing coming from something, or happening without a cause..
As in the big bang theory.

2) What was there before the big bang? Easy question: the universe existed of a very hot and very close matery. Very hot: more than 10 billion Kelvin. Very close: It existed of many little parts which formed hydrogen, helium and lithium after the big bang.

And that came from WHERE?
No matter how you twist it, big bang claims that something comes from nothing, without any cause whatsoever.

It is nothing short of preposterous.
And you regard such a theory more plausible than God, GET REAL!

xD He's alive, but he's in heaven. Nice contradiction!!!

There is no contradiction, every single person in Heaven is alive.
If you read the Bible you'd know that.

No, we are just taking the earth, because we know so much about the earth.

Nice attempt at weasling your way out of it..
You might want to read what you wrote again, and see that you contradict yourself all the time..

And we are giving answers to Christians who say that God only "exists" on earth, and that other planets don't exist. So why involve other planets in this answer?

We never said that God only exists on earth.
God is EVERYWHERE.

Whoooo, satanistical parables of eating menflesh!!!

Way to show how intelligent you are..

Who's the moron? Following an imaginary friend?

Aww, I am hurt by your accusations.. I truly am.
If you regarded Jesus as pure fiction, then WHY do you bother to come here and desperatly try to disprove him?
BECAUSE YOU FEAR THAT HE MIGHT EXIST! (Which He does.)

Mr. Baptist, have you met God yet? LOLZ

Of course I have.


The Bible is right about you all.. Atheists are damned fools.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14:1

Oh.. And Einstein, you know, the guy in your avatar..
He said that there is not a true scientist without belief in God! (He was a hellbound joo himself btw.)
Way to go to prove your own ignorance and stupidity.

[SinisterPizza]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

I haven't watched it through more than about a minute, but I have a question. Is it supposed to have sound? Or are my speakers just shot again. If that's the case that means I'm going to have to unhook the laptop from its loady-thingie again. Usually that gets the sound to work again.

[SinisterPizza]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

I was able to read the transcript on the site though. The thing I have against atheism, though, it that once someone dies something has to happen. How can you be and then just cease to be? All of a sudden your thoughts, feelings, and conscious just go nowhere? Now that seems impossible to me, the thought of just ceasing to be and think and feel.

I don't know what happens once someone dies, but something must happen, a person's soul/spirit/whatever logically must live on in some form. Heaven, Hell, who knows what, but just nothing seems quite impossible.

It is time for you to begin thinking like a rational human being, rather than clinging to imaginary friends and childhood fantasies.

Now...what would be the fun in that? Of course, you have to separate fantasy from reality, but letting go of fantasy completely isn't right. I cling to certain "imaginary friends", they make great muses for art and writing. And childhood fantasies? Ok, I know I'll never be a princess in some mythical land, but hope and dreams and achievement are born from "fantasies".

[Illustrator]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

I was able to read the transcript on the site though. The thing I have against atheism, though, it that once someone dies something has to happen. How can you be and then just cease to be? All of a sudden your thoughts, feelings, and conscious just go nowhere? Now that seems impossible to me, the thought of just ceasing to be and think and feel.

I don't know what happens once someone dies, but something must happen, a person's soul/spirit/whatever logically must live on in some form. Heaven, Hell, who knows what, but just nothing seems quite impossible.

Why?

Why is it logical for part of you to continue to exist when your body dies? Merely because you are sentient?

Who is SinisterPizza? What is your personality, your "self", beyond a collection of experiences and the attitudes developed from those experiences?

Are you the same person now that you were ten years ago? Five? One? I know I'm not; I change daily through experiences which come to me and those I seek out. How then can "I" be eternal, if I can change dramatically in such short periods?

Is it logical to expect that part of your dog will live on, as well? I imagine many would like to think so, as pets are parts of our families.

How about the chicken or fish you had for dinner? Or the several thousand other chickens, fish, ducks, etc. you've eaten? The mosquito you squashed? What about plants? They are living, and grow. Some even have reflexes (venus fly traps and the like)! Bacteria, too! What happens to them?

I should like to hear why "living-on" makes logical sense . . .

[Peter]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Did god wanted that the man who caused the accident was drunken? ROFL He allowed it to happen, yes.
Nobody allowed the accident to happen, it just happened, because the driver was drunk.

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Jeah, like I said. Following only the word of God won't help you in this society where a LAW tells you who is "guilty".
I agree. It won't help you much in THIS society, or THIS world.. (Although God has still blessed us with very much.)
But it helps in the next.. I'll go to heaven, while you will burn in hell, I'll call that a big difference.
There's nothing when you're dead, when you die it ends for you.
Because God is the only one who deems you guilty or innocent of being a vile sinner, NOBODY else.
No, judges decide that.



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3) No, that's not what we regard science. We regard science:
- Step 1: Thinking how something works, why something works like that or what works like that, or having a statement wich you think is true.
- Step 2: Trying to prove that statement. If proven right, see next step. If proven false, statement is false.
- Step 3: Make a note of the experiment. Make a note of the result.
- Step 4: Making scientific laws, which are finally proven and so, true.
BUT YOU HAVE NOT DISPROVEN GOD, THEREFORE YOU CANNOT, EVEN ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN DEFINITON OF SCIENCE:
SAY THAT HE DOES NOT EXIST.

You can't prove he exists, and we can prove that he doesn't exist. You say the bible is correct, but the bible is full of nonsense and is not correct, all the tales of the bible can be proven wrong.

That's why you're being a stupid hypocrite.
You don't even know your own religion! (ie "science")

Science is no religion, science is the truth.
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1) Why are you describing your own believe?
I don't.
God is eternal and created the universe, that has nothing to do with nothing coming from something, or happening without a cause..
As in the big bang theory.

But you do believe in a creature that has lived for eternity?ROFL
BTW: If he created the universe, where would he live before he created it?

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2) What was there before the big bang? Easy question: the universe existed of a very hot and very close matery. Very hot: more than 10 billion Kelvin. Very close: It existed of many little parts which formed hydrogen, helium and lithium after the big bang.
And that came from WHERE?
No matter how you twist it, big bang claims that something comes from nothing, without any cause whatsoever.

And from what came your god?

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xD He's alive, but he's in heaven. Nice contradiction!!!
There is no contradiction, every single person in Heaven is alive.
If you read the Bible you'd know that.

You say: "when you die, you go to heaven".
You contradicted yourself.


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And we are giving answers to Christians who say that God only "exists" on earth, and that other planets don't exist. So why involve other planets in this answer?
We never said that God only exists on earth.
God is EVERYWHERE.

Prove it.
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Whoooo, satanistical parables of eating menflesh!!!
Way to show how intelligent you are..
He is smarter than you.

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Who's the moron? Following an imaginary friend?
Aww, I am hurt by your accusations.. I truly am. old
If you regarded Jesus as pure fiction, then WHY do you bother to come here and desperatly try to disprove him?
BECAUSE YOU FEAR THAT HE MIGHT EXIST! (Which He does.)
Jesus existed 2000 years ago and he died.

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Mr. Baptist, have you met God yet? LOLZ
Of course I have. old
Offcourse you have



Oh.. And Einstein, you know, the guy in your avatar..
He said that there is not a true scientist without belief in God! (He was a hellbound joo himself btw.)
Way to go to prove your own ignorance and stupidity.
But now we know better than to believe there's a god.

Admit it, science is the truth.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Admit it, science is the truth.

The Bible is the only real truth. Your monkey worshiping scientists are constantly force-feeding us all manner of nonsense they call "facts" and "truth" one day, then they go and say the exact opposite is "fact" and "truth", and then they expect us to swallow that too.

Friends, God never changes. God is the same today as He was when He created this earth around 6,000 years ago. God's truth never changes. Take this Peter fellow. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that he's a flaming sissyboy. Most of these Darwinistas are actually perverts who spend all their free time looking for ways to justify their degenerate lifestyle. They choose to commit "gay love" just like the monkeys in the jungle do, then want to have the secular scientists tell us how its "natural" and "involuntary" it is to shove their penis in another man's exit chute.

I just laugh when I see these nancyboys come in here shaking their fist at God.

[Peter]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

The Bible is the only real truth. Your monkey worshiping scientists are constantly force-feeding us all manner of nonsense they call "facts" and "truth" one day, then they go and say the exact opposite is "fact" and "truth", and then they expect us to swallow that too.

Friends, God never changes. God is the same today as He was when He created this earth around 6,000 years ago. God's truth never changes. Take this Peter fellow. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that he's a flaming sissyboy. Most of these Darwinistas are actually perverts who spend all their free time looking for ways to justify their degenerate lifestyle. They choose to commit "gay love" just like the monkeys in the jungle do, then want to have the secular scientists tell us how its "natural" and "involuntary" it is to shove their penis in another man's exit chute.

I just laugh when I see these nancyboys come in here shaking their fist at God.

Wow, I'm amazed by your arguments.
If you think debatting is insulting the ones who have good arguments, then you should think again. If you avoid my arguments then you admit that you are wrong.

[Brother Samuel]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

#1 God chose to let the so-called "accident" happen that forced the amputation. The sooner you realize that God controls everything, including your fragile little heartbeat, the better.

#2 They would go to hell because they obviously aren't innocent. "Innocent" is what Hellywood would have you believe is innocent. True Christians™ follow different standards (The Holy KJV1611 Bible).

#3 No they aren't. The Bible says so.

Job 33:9 "I am clean without transgression, I am innocent; neither is there iniquity in me."

True Christians are all clean. They are free from iniquity. Most of the world is not.

#4 Then why do ALL the Creation Science experiments confirm what the Bible already says?

#5 The Bible tells us to.

Genesis 9:25 "And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren."

The sons of Canaan (the son of Ham, the son of Noah, etc.) are cursed with dark skin and the duty to be servants to the rest of the uncursed (sons of Shem, aka white people) because Ham offended God.

#6 Bad things do happen to everyone...except True Christians. We're blessed by God. You're not. Sorry about your luck.

#7 So disprove it.

#8 Extrabiblical sources confirmed the ressurection of Jesus. Prove that he wasn't raised.

#9 If Jesus says to eat his body and drink his blood, I'm going to do it. Jesus is the last person I would want mad at me. I imagine that being struck dead and cast into the pits of hell to be eternally tormented would be rather unpleasant.

#10 You have listened to Pastor Feelgood for far too long. The Bible requires several things to be saved. Among them is faith, i.e. what you mentioned. Another is works, i.e. doing what Jesus wants you to when he wants you to do it without so much as a seconds hesitation. There is more to being saved but in order to find out, you should purchase the plan of salvation. God knows you need it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof that god doesn't exist.

Wow, I'm amazed by your arguments.
If you think debatting is insulting the ones who have good arguments, then you should think again. If you avoid my arguments then you admit that you are wrong.

No one is avoiding you. You are getting plenty of attention nancyboy.

Denying the existence of God is nothing but an exercise in self-deception. You may know things, but you cannot account for anything you know. Arguing against God's existence would be on par with arguing against the existence of air, breathing it all the while. You use the universal, immaterial, unchanging laws of logic, mathematics, science, and absolute morality in order to come to rational decisions, but you cannot account for them. These laws are not the only way God has revealed himself to you, but they are sufficient to show the irrationality of your thinking, and expose your guilt for denying Him. Yes, your guilt.

There is a reason that you deny the existence of God and it has nothing to do with proof. I can show this to you. Do you think that you can continue to deny God because surely somewhere, sometime, a philosopher or scientist will come up with an explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws apart from God?' Did you ever try to come up with an alternate explanation on your own?

Hoping that an alternate explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws can someday be found apart from God, is a blind leap of faith, or wishful thinking. Isn't it interesting that this is exactly what you professed unbelievers accuse Christians of?

Please examine the real reasons why you are running from God. It is my prayer that God will open your eyes and change your heart so that you may be saved from your sin, embraced by His ferocious love, and that you will tithe robustly and immediately using the Paypal button at the bottom of this page.