could the universe began with complete zero!

[cohen avshalom]

could the universe began with complete zero-no mass/energy?
second question of me:could area change state,like any other material? from solid(state)->liquid(state) ->gas(state).i mean the area himself the shield-even with full vacuum.
i was writting 3 pages that call icarus5.
you can see them in" www.icarus5.com "
i hope you will note me back-write in easy way to understand-for everyone.i wait for your opinion.

thank you from:
cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa

[cohen avshalom]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

i mean:
There are only two realistic possibilities, either the universe has all ways existed with material and energy without a center or edge or there is an absolute beginning (material,energy, time and volume). We must in fact get to the beginning point before we can put forth any other possibilities. The theory's presented until now go around this question but do not answer the question.


cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa
www.icarus5.com

[Brother Temperance]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

Friend, GOD hates Jews, and He hates spammers as well. Why are you here?

[cohen avshalom]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

has he hate???-or you are hate?

Friend, GOD hates Jews

i was though god love everyone.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

has he hate???-or you are hate?

i was though god love everyone.

Then you've obviously never even bothered reading the scriptures that you Joos accept as legitimate, let alone the full KJV.
Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

I don't know why you've come here, but I suspect you plan on using your lying Jew tongue to soweth discord among us Godly Brethern. Now repent and get Saved or get out!

[Mrs. Rogers]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

i mean the area himself the shield-even with full vacuum.

I have no idea what you're yabbering on about, but I think I can answer the above question; it is unnatural for "himself" to "full vacuum" an area, seeing as that is women's work - even if he wears a shield in an attempt to feel more manly.

I hope that clears everything up for you, young janitor Joo.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

could the universe began with complete zero-no mass/energy?
second question of me:could area change state,like any other material? from solid(state)->liquid(state) ->gas(state).i mean the area himself the shield-even with full vacuum.
i was writting 3 pages that call icarus5.
you can see them in" www.icarus5.com "
i hope you will note me back-write in easy way to understand-for everyone.i wait for your opinion.

thank you from:
cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa

Son, I looked at your link. You need to graduate high school first, and you have no hope of getting into college with a web site like that. For starters, there is nothing "outside" the universe by definition. Secondly, the terms you are using, area and volume, are created by mass/energy and space-time.

Rather than shamelessly posting your links here asking people to fund your crack pot theories, you need to hit that pay-pal button and hope that you get saved here at Landover Baptist Church.

[cohen avshalom]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

ok - well tough audience-->i dont like to change your religion-or what so ever.
i also have not any intention to sell/or to introduce commercial advertisement.
i am only present-new idea-that is apparently not contradictory your beliving-because my hypothesis is not in the side that claimming that the universe never created-or has always been!!!
the true my profit is understanding what is the passiblity that people will see in positive way-my site-i try to wrote my site in the easy way for understanding-without almost not fourmla-or definition- (only small note like the word: thermodynamics).
i think Brother Temperance is maybe wrong-i shouldnt enter here.

cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa
www.icarus5.com

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

ok - well tough audience-->i dont like to change your religion-or what so ever.
i also have not any intention to sell/or to introduce commercial advertisement.
i am only present-new idea-that is apparently not contradictory your beliving-because my hypothesis is not in the side that claimming that the universe never created-or has always been!!!
the true my profit is understanding what is the passiblity that people will see in positive way-my site-i try to wrote my site in the easy way for understanding-without almost not fourmla-or definition- (only small note like the word: thermodynamics).
i think Brother Temperance is maybe wrong-i shouldnt enter here.

cohen avshalom charly
isreal/haifa
www.icarus5.com

You're welcome here to learn THE TRUTH(tm) friend but keep your ignorant superstitious nonsense to your self.

[nikilds]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

could the universe began with complete zero-no mass/energy?
[SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]second question of me:could area change state,like any other material? from solid(state)->liquid(state) ->gas(state).

Are you trying to imply you're the missing link or something?
Come back and re-ask the questions when you learn God's Chosen Language - English.

[Brother V]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

Are you trying to imply you're the missing link or something?
Come back and re-ask the questions when you learn God's Chosen Language - English.

It's ok, this person is attempting to act all smart and stuff, and has never heard of sublimation.

V

[G-Baby]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

There is also another theory which explaines the beginning of OUR universe: The "String Theory". (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html, please non-scientists and scientists, watch all the movies of hour 3. They're SO interesting and actually logic)

The String Theory speaks of various little strings. You can imagine these strings as a piece of rope, with two ends. You can find these strings in so called "quarks", which can be found in electrons, protons and neutrons. The ends of those strings are fixed on a layer, a 3D membrane or in science called "Brane", and it can be found in this or in another dimension (the 1st dimension: going from left to right for example, the 2nd dimension: going from left to right and up and down for example and the 3d, where we are: left to right, up and down, far and back). With enough energy, this brane can be very very very small or very very big, as big as a universe. Take a loaf bread (a "bulk"). If you cut this in slices, you can imagine those slices as parrallel universes and one of them is our universe. Those branes can be very far away from us or can just be a millimeter away from you. But why, if they're so close, why can't I touch them or see them? Well, if you have a brane living in a higher-dimensional space, and your particles, your atoms, cannot get off the brane, it's like trying to reach out, but you can't touc anything. It might as well be on the other end of the universe. Except for gravity. Take for example a pool table. The pool table is our slice of the universe and the balls are the particles. Those particles don't get of the universe, just as the balls, who won't get of the table, unless you're a really bad pool player. But when the balls collide, there IS something that always seeps of the table: sound waves. That's why I can hear the collision. Now, the idea is that gravity might be like the sound waves, it might not be confined to our membrane. It might be able to seep off our part of the universe. Or, think about it another way: back to the bread. Imagine that we and everything else is like jelly. If you put some jelly on your slice of bread, you can spread it out freely on the surface, but otherwise it's stuck, it can't leave the surface itself. But what if gravity were different? What if it were more like sugar? It WILL fall of the surface. Why would it be so different from everything else that we know of in the universe? Well, String Theory provides an answer: It has to do with the shape of the string. Before the human came up with the string theory, humans thought that all strings were like closed loops. Than we came up with string theory and said that those strings were all like a piece of open-ended rope. But those loops do excist, and one kind is responsible for gravity (graviton). Because there closed, they aren't tied on our membrane. So gravitons can escape to another dimension. So perhaps we could one day FEEL the other universes through gravity. So theoretically, and purely theoretically, we could communicate with "intelligent life" (if there is any on the other membrane) by sending strong wave sources of gravity. As the classic story goes, the vast universe we see today was once extremely, unimaginably small. And it got bigger. Then, suddenly, it got bigger...

CRASH

A lot bigger during the event, calling "Big Bang". This event set up the events who caused the universe we know today. Problems with this theory (not negatively meant to the scientist ):

1) When you squeeze the entire universe into a infinitesimally small dense package, at a certain point, our laws of physics simply break down.
2) The "bang" itself. What exactly is that? The classic form of the big bang theory really says nothing about WHAT banged, what happened before it banged or what caused it to bang. (I know I'm contradicting myself here, but I didn't read all this information when I put THOSE messages on the forum...) Refinements to the big bang theory do suggest explanations for the bang, but none of them turn the clock back completely to the moment when everything started. Some people come up with the naive notion that there wás a beginning, that somehow space and time emerged from nothing to something. I, like the guy in the movie I watched, don't like that nothing. It CAN'T be out of nothing.

Those were the problems, but can String Theory solve them? Some string theorists have suggested that the big bang, hold on, wasn't the beginning of everything at all! That the universe could've existed long before, even forever. Some aren't agreed with that idea and say that a universe without a beginning is a universe without explanation. So what is the explanation? What if String Theory is right and we're all living on a giant brane inside a higher-dimensional space? Some scientists have proposed that the answer to the big bang riddle lies in the movements of these gigantic branes. Well, it's simple: you have a brane on which we live and another one floating in the higher dimension. What is difficult about imagining that these branes collide with each other? So, before the big bang, two branes began drifting toward each other until...

CRASH

All that energy has to go somewhere, like physical scientists say. But where? Simple, it goes into the big bang! It creates the collide we see and it heats up all the particles in the universe in this big, fiery mass! Really, sience is that simple! And this isn't the weirdest thing about it, the proponants of this idea make another radical claim: the big bang was not a special event! Those collides can happen again ... and again ... and again and that it will happen again in the future! So there will come another big bang and another and this will go on for an indefinite period in the future.

Well, that was subject material for universities. And I'm only 15 and I understand it!
That is what science makes worthy to work with, it's unpredicable and only "for as far as we know"! You'll always find new things! Believe me, this String Theory is not yet on his apex. But it will be, my friends, it will be!

Greetzzz
G-B

[Peter]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

Now THAT'S an argument. It's much better (and logic) than al your scripture s***! SCIENCE RULES!

[G-Baby]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

What a great silence here...

[Brother Temperance]

Re: could the universe began with complete zero!

What a great silence here...

This silence would be a lot greater if you'd join in!