[Ex-soccer player]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Sometimes I think these scientists are sitting around in a room, laughing their butts off and just inventing stuff to release to the media to see how far they can push it.

I think it's all about making money.

The Bible contains all the information that you need, all relevant questions are answered in the Bible, questions that aren't answered in the Bible aren't worth asking. One Book contains all truth -->

The problem is, you can't make much money from selling Bibles, because you will get a free one from your Pastor, or you can read it online. So what will the scientists do in order to make money? They will simply invent things, make incredible claims without any Biblical support, then they revoke their former statements, invent new ones etc. That way, they sell their useless books and secure their jobs

[BelieverInGod]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Sometimes I think these scientists are sitting around in a room, laughing their butts off and just inventing stuff to release to the media to see how far they can push it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Some people can't handle the Truth™.

Looking in the mirror I see. Good for you.

Why don't you give Jesus a chance to run your life for you? You won't be sorry!

[Tool of satan]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

HERE's a good one: The secular scienticians are now claiming....get ready for it...that the universe is made out of raspberries and rum!

Some people can't handle the Truth™.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

HERE's a good one: The secular scienticians are now claiming....get ready for it...that the universe is made out of raspberries and rum!

Galaxy's centre tastes of raspberries and smells of rum, say astronomers

The hunt for chemicals in deep space that could seed life on other planets has yielded a large, fruity molecule

Astronomers searching for the building blocks of life in a giant dust cloud at the heart of the Milky Way have concluded that it would taste vaguely of raspberries.

The unanticipated discovery follows years of work by astronomers who trained their 30m radio telescope on the enormous ball of dust and gas in the hope of spotting complex molecules that are vital for life.

Finding amino acids in interstellar space is a Holy Grail for astrobiologists, as this would raise the possibility of life emerging on other planets after being seeded with the molecules.

In the latest survey, astronomers sifted through thousands of signals from Sagittarius B2, a vast dust cloud at the centre of our galaxy. While they failed to find evidence for amino acids, they did find a substance called ethyl formate, the chemical responsible for the flavour of raspberries.

"It does happen to give raspberries their flavour, but there are many other molecules that are needed to make space raspberries," Arnaud Belloche, an astronomer at the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy in Bonn, told the Guardian.

Curiously, ethyl formate has another distinguishing characteristic: it also smells of rum.

The astronomers used the IRAM telescope in Spain to analyse electromagnetic radiation emitted by a hot and dense region of Sagittarius B2 that surrounds a newborn star.

Radiation from the star is absorbed by molecules floating around in the gas cloud, which is then re-emitted at different energies depending on the type of molecule.

While scouring their data, the team also found evidence for the lethal chemical propyl cyanide in the same cloud. The two molecules are the largest yet discovered in deep space.

Dr Belloche and his colleague Robin Garrod at Cornell University in New York have collected nearly 4,000 distinct signals from the cloud but have only analysed around half of these.

"So far we have identified around 50 molecules in our survey, and two of those had not been seen before," said Belloche.

The results are being presented today at the European Week of Astronomy and Space Science at the University of Hertfordshire.

Last year, the team came tantalisingly close to finding amino acids in space with the discovery of a molecule that can be used to make them, called amino acetonitrile.

The latest discoveries have boosted the researchers' morale because the molecules are as large as the simplest amino acid, glycine. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins and are widely seen as being critical for complex life to exist anywhere in the universe.

"I wouldn't be surprised if we find an amino acid out there in the coming years," said Belloche.

Previously, astronomers have detected a variety of large molecules, including alcohols, acids and chemicals called aldehydes.

"The difficulty in searching for complex molecules is that the best astronomical sources contain so many different molecules that their 'fingerprints' overlap and are difficult to disentangle," Belloche said.

The molecules are thought to form when chemicals that already exist on some dust grains, such as ethanol, link together to make more complex chains.

"There is no apparent limit to the size of molecules that can be formed by this process, so there's good reason to expect even more complex organic molecules to be there," said Garrod.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

They're "still" here due to the fact they don't use sex to breed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY9DNWcqxI4
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Why?

God didn't use sex to breed either. Are you saying God is a bacteria? It wouldn't surprise me if you were. Stop hitting yourself on the head with boomerangs and get with Jesus.

[Adam Fag]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Of course! And if this theory of evolution were true, why would the bacteria still be "around today," as the article says?? Wouldn't they have evolved into aliens with spaceships and have flown off long ago? Certainly they would have, which is yet another piece of confirmation of the Bible's view of our origins.

They're "still" here due to the fact they don't use sex to breed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY9DNWcqxI4
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Why?

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Now the scienticians want us to believe that a fossil of bacteria is 3.4 billion years old.


Blah, blah, blah. What a bunch of malarkey! Any idiot knows that the earth is no more than 10,000 years old.

Of course! And if this theory of evolution were true, why would the bacteria still be "around today," as the article says?? Wouldn't they have evolved into aliens with spaceships and have flown off long ago? Certainly they would have, which is yet another piece of confirmation of the Bible's view of our origins.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Now the scienticians want us to believe that a fossil of bacteria is 3.4 billion years old.

Oldest Fossils On Earth Discovered

Earth's oldest fossils have been found in Australia by a team from the University of Western Australia and Oxford University. The microscopic fossils show convincing evidence for cells and bacteria living in an oxygen-free world over 3.4 billion years ago.

The team, led by Dr David Wacey of the University of Western Australia and including Professor Martin Brasier of Oxford University, report the finding in the journal Nature Geoscience.

'At last we have good solid evidence for life over 3.4 billion years ago. It confirms there were bacteria at this time, living without oxygen,' says Professor Brasier of the Department of Earth Sciences at Oxford.

Earth was still a hot, violent place at this time, with volcanic activity dominating the early Earth. The sky was cloudy and grey, keeping the heat in despite the sun being weaker than today. The water temperature of the oceans was much higher at 40-50 degrees -- the temperature of a hot bath -- and circulating currents were very strong. Any land masses were small, or about the size of Caribbean islands, and the tidal range was huge.

Significantly, there was very little oxygen present as there were no plants or algae yet to photosynthesise and produce oxygen. The new evidence points to early life being sulfur-based, living off and metabolizing compounds containing sulfur rather than oxygen for energy and growth.

'Such bacteria are still common today. sulfur bacteria are found in smelly ditches, soil, hot springs, hydrothermal vents -- anywhere where there's little free oxygen and they can live off organic matter,' explains Professor Brasier.

The microfossils were found in a remote part of Western Australia called Strelley Pool. They are very well preserved between the quartz sand grains of the oldest beach or shoreline known on Earth, in some of the oldest sedimentary rocks that can be found anywhere.

'We can be very sure about the age as the rocks were formed between two volcanic successions that narrow the possible age down to a few tens of millions of years,' says Professor Brasier. 'That's very accurate indeed when the rocks are 3.4 billion years old.'

The microfossils satisfy three crucial tests that the forms seen in the rocks are biological and have not occurred through some mineralization process.

The fossils are very clearly preserved showing precise cell-like structures all of a similar size. They look like well known but much newer microfossils from 2 billion years ago, and are not odd or strained in shape.

The fossils suggest biological-like behavior. The cells are clustered in groups, are only present in appropriate habitats and are found attached to sand grains.

And crucially, they show biological metabolisms. The chemical make-up of the tiny fossilized structures is right, and crystals of pyrite (fool's gold) associated with the microfossils are very likely to be by-products of the sulfur metabolism of these ancient cells and bacteria.

Early fossils of life on Earth has been a controversial area. In the past decade, the barriers that need to be overcome before claiming such evidence have been raised significantly, aided by new techniques for mapping the chemistry of rocks at fine scales.

In 2002, the same Oxford group suggested well-known microfossils from the Apex chert in Australia were not the preserved forms of ancient bacteria after all. They argued that the context, shape and mineralogy of the forms were all wrong for them to be of biological origin.

They believe the current fossils, found just 20 miles away, satisfy all criteria for judging such finds.

The researchers are now using the techniques and approaches they used in this study to re-examine other fossil finds that have been proposed to contain evidence for life on Earth at these extremely early times.

'We're now making detailed comparisons with all other early microfossils, and we're very optimistic for future finds,' says Professor Brasier.

The work also has implications for looking for life on other planets, giving an indication of what evidence for such life might look like.

Should there be life elsewhere in our solar system -- on Mars or on the moons of Titan or Europa -- it is likely to be similar sorts of bacteria and cells living in similar environments. So any fossils in rocks from these planets and moons ought to look like these Australian microfossils and pass the same evidence tests.

'Could these sorts of things exist on Mars? It's just about conceivable,' says Professor Brasier. 'But it would need these approaches -- mapping the chemistry of any microfossils in fine detail and convincing three-dimensional images -- to support any evidence for life on Mars.'

Blah, blah, blah. What a bunch of malarkey! Any idiot knows that the earth is no more than 10,000 years old.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Get a load of THIS latest secular science blasphemy

Humans Had Sex Regularly With Mysterious Extinct Relatives in Africa

Our species may have bred with a now extinct lineage of humanity before leaving Africa, scientists say.

Although we modern humans are now the only surviving lineage of humanity, others once roamed the Earth, making their way out of Africa before our species did, including the familiar Neanderthals in West Asia and Europe and the newfound Denisovans in East Asia. Genetic analysis of fossils of these extinct lineages has revealed they once interbred with modern humans, unions that may have endowed our lineage with mutations that protected them as we began expanding across the world about 65,000 yeas ago.

Now researchers analyzing the human genome find evidence that our species hybridized with a hitherto unknown human lineage even before leaving Africa, with approximately 2 percent of contemporary African DNA perhaps coming from this lineage. In comparison, recent estimates suggest that Neanderthal DNA makes up 1 percent to 4 percent of modern Eurasian genomes and Denisovan DNA makes up 4 percent to 6 percent of modern Melanesian genomes. [Neanderthals Had Sex With Humans]

These secular scienticians just crack me up. What's next? Humans mating with rocks?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Well, none of them have drivers' licences & I got a car so I'm the driver+ they buy the absinthe (for later). There are other lectures (not about science) but they're not in Australia - some of us meet up in other countries, and then they're my guests. They won't come hear my music though. They say I probably insert post hypnotic suggestions in the mixing desk. (I just pretend I didn't hear them say that).

[María Gálvez-Villalobos]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Well I read all of that with some interest - but not an awful lot of interest: none of the so-called "scientifically literate" contributors wrote anything beyond what a kindergarten teacher might burble to butter the passage of further "scientific enquiry" in their young and malleable charges.

Pastor Ezekiel went out of his way to display full and frank details of recent announcements from the scientific community(sic) - many of which I had followed (including today's announcement of several "earth-like exoplanets") - and I do spend a certain amount of time engaginging with physicists so that I can understand where their heads may be "at" the better to witness to them, should God place such an opportunity before me. I wouldn't want to let Him down.

So I attend lectures regularly where the latest pre-publication research is presented, and these physicists do appreciate my
understanding of what is in their mind EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW I DISAGREE. As a rule, they also have a reasonable
understanding of The Bible WITH WHICH THEY DISAGREE but we come together in a dialogue which I find rather gratifying, and I
acknowledge: it is God's salt upon my lips.
PRAISE HIM

COLOSSIANS 4
3 Withall, praying also for vs, that God would open vnto vs a doore of vtterance, to speake the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:
4 That I may make it manifest, as I ought to speake.
5 Walke in wisdome toward them that are without, redeeming the time.
6 Let your speech bee alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how yee ought to answere euery man.
©1611

I'm not going to bore everyone by quoting all the rubbish these science posters have stuck up, but from memory there are 2 main areas where they are deficient (in their own subject).

• 1 Space and Time. From the so-called Newtonian perspective, these are not (separate) dimensions as in the relativistic sense. There is updown sideways and forwardbackwards = 3 dimensions where his laws of motion were set forth; time here might be a 4th dimension,

Einstein saw those as a different sort of environment, in which gravity was not treated as a force (cf the Newtonian stuff).

Distance is a sort of illusion. Matter slows things down - as our kindergarten teacher might insinuate - and "dimensions" curl up, yielding different sorts of particles at different times (in the early universe).

____________________________

• 2 The relationship between particles and radiation in the non-local universe. We inhabit a world of cause & effect. Radiation cannot possibly do so (there were a few references to "string theory" and assorted gobbledygooks) and particles are anomalous in this

God knows that & tells us about His unfolding plan

ECCLESIASTES 3
10 I haue seene the trauaile which God hath giuen to the sonnes of men, to be exercised in it.
11 He hath made euery thing beautifull in his time: also hee hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can finde out the worke that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
©1611

God is consistent:

ROMANS 8
22 For wee know that the whole creation groaneth, and trauaileth in paine together vntill now.
23 And not only they, but our selues also which haue the first fruites of the spirit, euen we our selues groane within our selues, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For wee are saued by hope: but hope that is seene, is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
©1611

Anticipating secular, Godless "science" and its half-baked theories, He forewarned us:

ABOUT THE NON-LOCAL UNIVERSE:

ECCLESIASTES 3
14 I know that whatsoeuer God doeth, it shalbe for euer: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doth it, that men should feare before him.
15 That which hath beene, is now: and that which is to be, hath alreadie beene, and God requireth that which is past.
©1611

ABOUT EVOLUTION:

ECCLESIASTES 3
16 And moreouer, I sawe vnder the Sunne the place of iudgement, that wickednesse was there; and the place of righteousnesse, that iniquitie was there.
17 I said in mine heart, God shall iudge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there, for euery purpose and for euery worke.
18 I said in my heart concerning the estate of the sonnes of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselues are beasts.
19 For that which befalleth the sonnes of men, befalleth beastes, euen one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea they haue all one breath, so that a man hath no preheminence aboue a beast; for all is vanitie.
20 All goe vnto one place, all are of the dust, and all turne to dust againe.
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth vpward; and the spirit of the beast that goeth downeward to the earth?
©1611

Satanic false "cosmology" and its timeshare bedfellow "evolution" may pout and flutter, spruiking their debauch "special" (for today only) — yet two things remain the same:

Their shifting sands: God's unchanging Truth.

EVIDENCE

NEW TESTAMENT

MATTHEW 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of it selfe: sufficient vnto the day is the euill thereof.
©1611

OLD TESTAMENT

ECCLESTIAES 3:22 Wherefore I perceiue that there is nothing better, then that a man should reioyce in his owne workes: for that is his portion; for who shall bring him to see what shalbe after him?
©1611

PROOF

OLD TESTAMENT

ECCLESTIAES 3:13 And also that euery man should eate and drinke, and enioy the good of all his labour: it is the gift of God.
©1611

NEW TESTAMENT

MATTHEW 6
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eate? or, what shall we drinke? or wherewithall shall wee be clothed?
32 (For after all these things doe the Gentiles seeke): for your heauenly father knoweth that ye haue neede of all these things.
33 But seeke ye first the kingdome of God, and his righteousnesse, and all these things shalbe added vnto you.
©1611

HALLELUJAH!

Wow sister Mizza! I can see you is very clever lady and I'm sure you knows that you are doing but not you think is perhap not so good idea for go at this lectures with ateist peoples that can be dangerous for yousoul and try for corrump you? I think you are very brave cristian lady. I no would can to do that.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Well I read all of that with some interest - but not an awful lot of interest: none of the so-called "scientifically literate" contributors wrote anything beyond what a kindergarten teacher might burble to butter the passage of further "scientific enquiry" in their young and malleable charges.

Pastor Ezekiel went out of his way to display full and frank details of recent announcements from the scientific community(sic) - many of which I had followed (including today's announcement of several "earth-like exoplanets") - and I do spend a certain amount of time engaginging with physicists so that I can understand where their heads may be "at" the better to witness to them, should God place such an opportunity before me. I wouldn't want to let Him down.

So I attend lectures regularly where the latest pre-publication research is presented, and these physicists do appreciate my
understanding of what is in their mind EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW I DISAGREE. As a rule, they also have a reasonable
understanding of The Bible WITH WHICH THEY DISAGREE but we come together in a dialogue which I find rather gratifying, and I
acknowledge: it is God's salt upon my lips.
PRAISE HIM

COLOSSIANS 4
3 Withall, praying also for vs, that God would open vnto vs a doore of vtterance, to speake the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:
4 That I may make it manifest, as I ought to speake.
5 Walke in wisdome toward them that are without, redeeming the time.
6 Let your speech bee alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how yee ought to answere euery man.
©1611

I'm not going to bore everyone by quoting all the rubbish these science posters have stuck up, but from memory there are 2 main areas where they are deficient (in their own subject).

• 1 Space and Time. From the so-called Newtonian perspective, these (separate) dimensions are not as conceived in the relativistic universe. There is updown sideways and forwardbackwards = 3 dimensions where his laws of motion were set forth; time here might be a 4th dimension,

Einstein saw those as a different sort of environment, in which gravity was not treated as a force (cf the Newtonian stuff).

Distance is a sort of illusion. Matter slows things down - as our kindergarten teacher might insinuate - and "dimensions" curl up, yielding different sorts of particles at different times (in the early universe).

____________________________

• 2 The relationship between particles and radiation in the non-local universe. We inhabit a world of cause & effect. Radiation cannot possibly do so (there were a few references to "string theory" and assorted gobbledygooks) and particles are anomalous in this

However the physical laws themselves are not sufficient to uniquely describe the Universe .. .. ..etc.

God knows that & tells us about His unfolding plan

ECCLESIASTES 3
10 I haue seene the trauaile which God hath giuen to the sonnes of men, to be exercised in it.
11 He hath made euery thing beautifull in his time: also hee hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can finde out the worke that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
©1611

God is consistent:

ROMANS 8
22 For wee know that the whole creation groaneth, and trauaileth in paine together vntill now.
23 And not only they, but our selues also which haue the first fruites of the spirit, euen we our selues groane within our selues, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For wee are saued by hope: but hope that is seene, is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
©1611

Anticipating secular, Godless "science" and its half-baked theories, He forewarned us:

ABOUT THE NON-LOCAL UNIVERSE:

ECCLESIASTES 3
14 I know that whatsoeuer God doeth, it shalbe for euer: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doth it, that men should feare before him.
15 That which hath beene, is now: and that which is to be, hath alreadie beene, and God requireth that which is past.
©1611

ABOUT EVOLUTION:

ECCLESIASTES 3
16 And moreouer, I sawe vnder the Sunne the place of iudgement, that wickednesse was there; and the place of righteousnesse, that iniquitie was there.
17 I said in mine heart, God shall iudge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there, for euery purpose and for euery worke.
18 I said in my heart concerning the estate of the sonnes of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselues are beasts.
19 For that which befalleth the sonnes of men, befalleth beastes, euen one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea they haue all one breath, so that a man hath no preheminence aboue a beast; for all is vanitie.
20 All goe vnto one place, all are of the dust, and all turne to dust againe.
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth vpward; and the spirit of the beast that goeth downeward to the earth?
©1611

Satanic false "cosmology" and its timeshare bedfellow "evolution" may pout and flutter, spruiking their debauch "special" (for today only) — yet two things remain the same:

Their shifting sands: God's unchanging Truth.

EVIDENCE

NEW TESTAMENT

MATTHEW 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of it selfe: sufficient vnto the day is the euill thereof.
©1611

OLD TESTAMENT

ECCLESTIAES 3:22 Wherefore I perceiue that there is nothing better, then that a man should reioyce in his owne workes: for that is his portion; for who shall bring him to see what shalbe after him?
©1611

PROOF

OLD TESTAMENT

ECCLESTIAES 3:13 And also that euery man should eate and drinke, and enioy the good of all his labour: it is the gift of God.
©1611

NEW TESTAMENT

MATTHEW 6
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eate? or, what shall we drinke? or wherewithall shall wee be clothed?
32 (For after all these things doe the Gentiles seeke): for your heauenly father knoweth that ye haue neede of all these things.
33 But seeke ye first the kingdome of God, and his righteousnesse, and all these things shalbe added vnto you.
©1611

HALLELUJAH!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Well, it has not been proven that the findings are bull sh*t, so let's just wait and see.

It seems Lead Gnu Atheist PZ Meyers thinks so.

From the article:

“[The Journal of Cosmology] isn’t a real science journal at all,” says PZ Meyers in Science Blogs, “but is the ginned-up website of a small group of crank academics obsessed with the idea of Hoyle and Wickramasinghe that life originated in outer space and simply rained down on Earth.”

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Latest Scientifical Insanity

Well, it has not been proven that the findings are bull sh*t, so let's just wait and see.

No let's not. The Bible proves their "findings" are "bullsh*t" as you so ineloquently put it. The HOLY WORD OF GOD tells us that so-called aliens are nothing more than DEMONS!!!