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Well, it has not been proven that the findings are bull sh*t, so let's just wait and see.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Look at THIS crazy stuff. The secular scientists are now claiming that there are alien worms living inside of meteors.

NASA scientist finds evidence of alien life

Aliens exist, and we have proof.

That astonishingly awesome claim comes from Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, who says he has found conclusive evidence of alien life — fossils of bacteria found in an extremely rare class of meteorite called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites. (There are only nine such meteorites on planet Earth.) Hoover’s findings were published late Friday night in the Journal of Cosmology, a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

“I interpret it as indicating that life is more broadly distributed than restricted strictly to the planet earth,” Hoover, who has spent more than 10 years studying meteorites around the world, told FoxNews.com in an interview. “This field of study has just barely been touched — because quite frankly, a great many scientist would say that this is impossible.”

Hoover discovered the fossils by breaking apart the CI1 meteorite, and analyzing the exposed rock with a scanning-electron microscope and a field emission electron-scanning microscope, which allowed him to detect any fossil remains. What he found were fossils of micro-organisms (pictured below), many of which he says are strikingly similar to those found on our own planet (pictured above).

“The exciting thing is that they are in many cases recognizable and can be associated very closely with the generic species here on earth,” said Hoover. Some of the fossils, however, are quite odd. “There are some that are just very strange and don’t look like anything that I’ve been able to identify, and I’ve shown them to many other experts that have also come up stump.”

In order to satisfy the inevitable hoard of buzz-killing skeptics, Hoover’s study and evidence were made available to his peers in the scientific community in advance of the study’s publications, giving them a chance to thoroughly dissect his findings. Comments from those who decided to sift through the evidence will be published online, alongside the study.

“Given the controversial nature of his discovery, we have invited 100 experts and have issued a general invitation to over 5,000 scientists from the scientific community to review the paper and to offer their critical analysis,” writes Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics scientist Dr. Rudy Schild, who serves as the Journal of Cosmology’s editor-in-chief. “No other paper in the history of science has undergone such a thorough vetting, and never before in the history of science has the scientific community been given the opportunity to critically analyze an important research paper before it is published.”

Needless to say, if Hoover’s conclusions are found to be accurate, the implications for human life will be staggering. Here’s hoping that he’s right.

Update: While the Journal of Cosmology says that “no other paper in the history of science has undergone such a thorough vetting,” some highly respected names in the scientific community are challenging the validity of Cosmology, and the findings of Dr. Hoover.

“[The Journal of Cosmology] isn’t a real science journal at all,” says PZ Meyers in Science Blogs, “but is the ginned-up website of a small group of crank academics obsessed with the idea of Hoyle and Wickramasinghe that life originated in outer space and simply rained down on Earth.”

Even the monkey-worshiping atheists know that this is a steaming pile of lies.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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HERE's a good one! The God-hating scientificals have found a new set of monkeybones to worship instead of Jesus!

Fossil Discovery Is Heralded

In what could prove to be a landmark discovery, a leading paleontologist said scientists have dug up the 47 million-year-old fossil of an ancient primate whose features suggest it could be the common ancestor of all later monkeys, apes and humans.

Anthropologists have long believed that humans evolved from ancient ape-like ancestors. Some 50 million years ago, two ape-like groups walked the Earth. One is known as the tarsidae, a precursor of the tarsier, a tiny, large-eyed creature that lives in Asia. Another group is known as the adapidae, a precursor of today's lemurs in Madagascar.

Based on previously limited fossil evidence, one big debate had been whether the tarsidae or adapidae group gave rise to monkeys, apes and humans. The latest discovery bolsters the less common position that our ancient ape-like ancestor was an adapid, the believed precursor of lemurs.

Philip Gingerich, president-elect of the Paleontological Society in the U.S., has co-written a paper that will detail next week the latest fossil discovery in Public Library of Science, a peer-reviewed, online journal.

"This discovery brings a forgotten group into focus as a possible ancestor of higher primates," Mr. Gingerich, a professor of paleontology at the University of Michigan, said in an interview.

The discovery has little bearing on a separate paleontological debate centering on the identity of a common ancestor of chimps and humans, which could have lived about six million years ago and still hasn't been found. That gap in the evolution story is colloquially referred to as the "missing link" controversy. In reality, though, all gaps in the fossil record are technically "missing links" until filled in, and many scientists say the term is meaningless.

Nonetheless, the latest fossil find is likely to ignite further the debate between evolutionists who draw conclusions based on a limited fossil record, and creationists who don't believe that humans, monkeys and apes evolved from a common ancestor.

Scientists won't necessarily agree about the details either. "Lemur advocates will be delighted, but tarsier advocates will be underwhelmed" by the new evidence, says Tim White, a paleontologist at the University of California, Berkeley. "The debate will persist."

The skeleton will be unveiled at New York City's American Museum of Natural History next Tuesday by Mayor Michael Bloomberg and an international team involved in the discovery.

According to Prof. Gingerich, the fossilized remains are of a young female adapid. The skeleton was unearthed by collectors about two years ago and has been kept tightly under wraps since then, in an unusual feat of scientific secrecy.

Prof. Gingerich said he had twice examined the adapid skeleton, which was "a complete, spectacular fossil." The completeness of the preserved skeleton is crucial, because most previously found fossils of ancient primates were small finds, such as teeth and jawbones.

It was found in the Messel Shale Pit, a disused quarry near Frankfurt, Germany. The pit has long been a World Heritage Site and is the source of a number of well-preserved fossils from the middle Eocene epoch, some 50 million years ago.

Prof. Gingerich said several scientists, including Jorn Hurum of Norway's National History Museum, had inspected the fossil with computer tomography scanning, a sophisticated X-ray technique that can provide detailed, cross-sectional views. Dr. Hurum declined to comment.

Although the creature looks like a lemur, there are some distinctive physical differences. Lemurs have a tooth comb (a tooth modified to help groom fur); a grooming claw; and a wet nose. Dr. Gingerich said that the adapid skeleton has neither a grooming claw nor a tooth comb. "We can't say whether it had a wet nose or not," he noted.

Since the fossilized creature found in Germany didn't have features like a tooth comb or grooming claw, it could be argued that it gave rise to monkeys, apes and humans, which don't have these features either.

It's supposed to have a comb?

When will the world wake up to the fact that these scienticians are making this stuff up as they go?

[Bobby-Joe]

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What's so unbelievable about this? Scientists saw something through a telescope, and are hypothesizing where it came from. Do you think the telescope that allowed scientists to see this blob was made by satan and therefore the things seen through it don't exist? Or do you have a problem with the fact that scientists cannot recreate the universe in a lab and therefore can never know for sure what really happened, so any educated guess is just a bunch of nonsense they "pulled out of their asses"? And since scientists can't entirely prove how the universe began, this means the entire field of science is discredited?

No, we fell secular scientists are so depraved that project their disgusting unnatural practices into their "research". That is why you get all this talk about "probing black holes" or "the big bang" and this obsession with white blobs. How blatant can you get? When we say they pulled this stuff out of their backside we are not speaking metaphorically.

Astronomy is just a stealth way to promote homosexuality. Jesus weeps when He thinks about what astronomers do in their observatories. Why Hitler like astronomy.

[Brother Temperance]

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Or do you have a problem with the fact that scientists cannot recreate the universe in a lab and therefore can never know for sure what really happened, so any educated guess is just a bunch of nonsense they "pulled out of their asses"?

Yes. Thank you for explaining why "science" is so totally discredited.

Just because science can't prove one thing that is by it's very nature impossible to prove, that doesn't mean it can't prove anything.

But it is possible to prove! Just read the Bible, it's full of proof! God wouldn't lie to us now would He?

[Elizabeth]

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And since scientists can't entirely prove how the universe began, this means the entire field of science is discredited?

Yes, yes it does.

Just because science can't prove one thing that is by it's very nature impossible to prove, that doesn't mean it can't prove anything.

[Meek and Humble]

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And since scientists can't entirely prove how the universe began, this means the entire field of science is discredited?

Yes, yes it does.

[Elizabeth]

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Okay, even I am amazed at THIS latest scientifical "discovery." By amazed, I mean astonished that anyone would take them seriously when they try and tell us that they've discovered a "blob" that's 12 bazillion years old. And then they named it after some chink princess.

Thank God I was washed in Jesus' blood and Saved©. Any True Christian™ knows that "blobs in space" don't exist, but God Almighty up in Heaven sure does!

What's so unbelievable about this? Scientists saw something through a telescope, and are hypothesizing where it came from. Do you think the telescope that allowed scientists to see this blob was made by satan and therefore the things seen through it don't exist? Or do you have a problem with the fact that scientists cannot recreate the universe in a lab and therefore can never know for sure what really happened, so any educated guess is just a bunch of nonsense they "pulled out of their asses"? And since scientists can't entirely prove how the universe began, this means the entire field of science is discredited?

[Nobar King]

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Why are you so angry, little boy? What did Jesus ever do to you?

[iamyourgod]

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What will these God-hating monkey worshipers think up next? Take a look at THIS pack of lies. Now they say they can look back billions of years to see the day that something formed out of nothing...



Now I ask you, did any of that gibberish make a lick of sense? Of course not! I happen to hold PhD's in 5 different theological specialities, and even I can't make heads or tails of it. I swear they just pull this stuff right out of satan's greasy behind.

Stick with the Bible, brothers and sisters.

you DONT understand because you DONT have a PhD in quantum physics.
I hate you with a passion.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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If don’t much care for science fiction. Not one of us reading this is ever going to see that thing that the slant so-called astrologer saw and I doubt that he got a good look at it.

He’s probably making all this up. He takes some fuzzy photos, scribbles down a few exciting ideas and “bang!” an amazing theory starts and he expects us all to believe this.

Well, Mr Masami Ouchi, (if that is your name) I for one am not going to accept a ludicrous story of something you said happened ages ago on the mere say so of someone who wasn’t there at the time.

a portion of the sky designated the Subaru/XMM-Newton Deep Survey Field.

A Subaru XMM? Isn't that what Brother Wide-O is forced to drive instead of a Godly Escalade?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Okay, even I am amazed at THIS latest scientifical "discovery." By amazed, I mean astonished that anyone would take them seriously when they try and tell us that they've discovered a "blob" that's 12 bazillion years old. And then they named it after some chink princess.

Thank God I was washed in Jesus' blood and Saved(c). Any True Christian(tm) knows that "blobs in space" don't exist, but God Almighty up in Heaven sure does!

Giant Mystery Blob Discovered Near Dawn of Time

A newly found primordial blob may represent the most massive object ever discovered in the early universe, researchers announced today.

The gas cloud, spotted from 12.9 billion light-years away, could signal the earliest stages of galaxy formation back when the universe was just 800 million years old.

"I have never heard about any [similar] objects that could be resolved at this distance," said Masami Ouchi, a researcher at the Carnegie Institution in Pasadena, Calif. "It's kind of record-breaking."

A light-year is the distance light travels in a year, about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion kilometers). An object 12.9 billion light-years away is seen as it existed 12.9 billion years ago, and the light is just now arriving.

The cloud predates similar blobs, known as Lyman-Alpha blobs, which existed when the universe was 2 billion to 3 billion years old. Researchers named their new find Himiko, after an ancient Japanese queen with an equally murky past.

Himiko holds more than 10 times as much mass as the next largest object found in the early universe, or roughly the equivalent mass of 40 billion suns. At 55,000 light years across, it spans about half the diameter of our Milky Way Galaxy.

Lyman-Alpha blobs remain a mystery because existing telescopes have a hard time peering so far back to nearly the dawn of the universe.

Himiko sits right on the doorstep of an era called the reionization epoch, which lasted between 200 million and 1 billion years after the Big Bang. That's when the universe had just emerged from its cosmic dark ages and had begun brightening through the formation of stars and galaxies. Hot, energized hydrogen gas from that time period has allowed astronomers to begin seeing some objects — as much good as it does to squint at such fuzzy blobs.

"Even for astronomers, we don't understand," Ouchi told SPACE.com. "We are keen to try to understand what those systems are in the reionization epoch."

Himiko may represent an ionized gas halo surrounding a super-massive black hole, or a cooling gas cloud that indicates a primordial galaxy, Ouchi noted. But it might also be the result of a collision between two young galaxies, or the outgoing wind of a highly active star nursery, or a single giant galaxy.

Pinning down this riddle will require further telescope time. The W.M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii can help accurately estimate star formation in the blob, while NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory could test the super-massive black hole scenario, Ouchi noted. And even Hubble could get in on the action.

"We're planning deep infrared imaging with the Hubble Space Telescope to tell whether [Himiko] has merger-like qualities or not," Ouchi said.

However, that particular research hinges upon the future success of a risky repair mission to the aging Hubble. Astronauts are slated to blast off with the space shuttle Atlantis in the attempt next month.

For now, researchers may celebrate the fact that they found Himiko at all. They almost overlooked the blob among 207 galaxy candidates, while sweeping a portion of the sky designated the Subaru/XMM-Newton Deep Survey Field.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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I have come to this topic a little late in the day. Nevertheless, I refered to the original article with my Biblical Scientist hat on:

"The eternal recurrence of absolutely identical universes would seem to be prevented by the apparent existence of an intrinsic cosmic forgetfulness," he added.

We know this already! The Bible is clear that God can forget if He chooses
Heb:8:12: For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

(The so-called scientist has omitted to say that first you must be Saved™)

However, if we substitute “the apparent existence of an intrinsic cosmic forgetfulness” for the Word “God”, I think it is proof enough of His existence and it is far easier to understand!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Brother Temperance,
your ending quote is by samuel clemens (aka. Mark Twain) from his short story "War Prayer" in context and even out of context it refutes how the southern church would pray for victory and shows how contradictory it is to ask of "Him who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faitherful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts" to ruthlessly slaughter and tourcher their soldiers, their widows, and thier orphans. If you see this prayer as what god would want, you must follow the old testement closer than the majority of modern day christians do, and that scares me.

You seem to misunderstand the Bible and the Mark Twain story.

The point was that we should comprehend exactly what we ask of God.

Now, considering that God commanded that Moses commit genocide against the Midianites -- that is, mercilessly kill all the men, women, infant boys, and all the non-virgin girls, then give the virgin girls to his men to use for their amusement -- for the crime of wishing to worship another god, we are well aware of what we ask for when we ask God to help us in smiting His enemies.

When you consider that the enemies of God will spend eternity burning in agony in Hell, a little war doesn't seem like much, does it?

Why should it "scare you" that we follow the Bible? In no place in the New Testament does God say we can ignore the Old Testament; quite the contrary! Jesus says we have to follow all of the Law, including executing certain types of sinners unless it is forbidden by "the powers that be"!

[Nurse Clampett]

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You just spelled "torture" as "tourcher."

'Nuff said.

What else can you expect from a God mocker who believes the Earth was created by a bunch of rocks going BOOM!