[xcalibur1]

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The star Arcturus is reddish actually, though you'll probably say it's a ruby.

Two questions, out of curiousity:

1. What are the other planets?

2. Does the Scripture really demand this sort of conclusion? "lights in the heavens" could mean all sorts of things, as there are many things that reflect or produce light.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Rev. Jim,

I do not necessarily agree with your theory; however, assuming for a minute that you are correct in your assertions your math is still incorrect. In Psalms 90:4, the Bible states, "For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night." And 2 Peter 3:8 says, "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." Thus, a creation day is not a mere 24 hour period but rather a 1000 year period. Would not that information make the maximum distance for a star far greater than you have stated? And does that not mean that the Earth is also far older than you have stated?

Hello, INRIJedi,

This is a very good point you bring up, however you will find when it comes to the Genesis creation account, the Hebrew word "yom" is used and it is clearly referring to a literal 24-hour day. Those two verses you mention show us that God exists outside of our time, but that does not mean the Genesis verses are related to that concept.

The word "day"/"yom" occurs 357 times outside of Genesis 1. The combination is used in four different ways, but each time it is used, it must mean 24-hour periods of time. If the combinations had been intended to mean long periods of time, both the texts and contexts then become meaningless. One example is Genesis 30:36: "And he (Laban) set three days journey betwixt himself and Jacob." Does that mean Laban traveled for three thousand years? Of course not!

God frequently issued commands that the people were to do or not to do certain things on a given day. This use occurs 162 times. A good example is Exodus 24:16: "And the glory of the Lord abode upon Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days, and on the seventh day He called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud." These are the most typical uses of the word "day" with a number. Ezra 3:6 says, "From the first day of the seventh month they began to offer burnt offerings unto the Lord." A number may also be used with "day" to convey an ending point. An example is Leviticus 19:6: "It shall be eaten the same day ye offer it, and on the morrow: and if ought remain until the third day, it shall be burnt in the fire." It would appear, then, that whenever the Old Testament uses a number with the word "day," it means a 24-hour period of time without any demonstrable exception.

The point is, if you want to attribute day/yom as being of an era, it makes the rest of the Bible meaningless. We must understand the context. I hope this has explained things more clearly for you.

[INRIJedi]

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Rev. Jim,

I do not necessarily agree with your theory; however, assuming for a minute that you are correct in your assertions your math is still incorrect. In Psalms 90:4, the Bible states, "For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night." And 2 Peter 3:8 says, "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." Thus, a creation day is not a mere 24 hour period but rather a 1000 year period. Would not that information make the maximum distance for a star far greater than you have stated? And does that not mean that the Earth is also far older than you have stated?

[Nobar King]

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4. If light travels through a diamond its speed is in no way diminished.

Who am I supposed to believe?

Refraction Light travels at different speeds in different materials. Light travels at 3 X 108 m/sec in vacuum, at a slightly lower speed in air, and at 2 X 108 m/sec in glass. In a diamond, light travels at about 40% of its speed in a vacuum.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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A shooting star was made of something like diamonds. Thank you for proving the Reverend's point.

[mark.porter]

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I dont really know where to start on this link i can not say ive read every post, that aside i think i have read enough of the general nonsense on this thread to give me fair ground to stand on.

1. The sun is not made of coal.

2. The sun is a star of small-medium size.

3. Stars are not diamonds.

4. If light travels through a diamond its speed is in no way diminished.

5. The closest star other than our sun is Proxima Centauri which is 4.2 light years=(3,976,366,464,000 miles) away not "500 miles to six billion miles" as is claimed by many posts.

6. If stars really were 500+ miles away we would be able to send out a probe to analyze them and N.A.S.A. would have announced their existence in close proximity to earth.

7. In the quote provided by another by the name of "A Follower" he cites an article from a website: http://news.discovery.com/space/diam...ite-space.html he claims to have taken this quote from the site however if one were to do as i did and enter the site to confirm this one would find that the "star" in question was in reality nothing more than a meteorite.

The quotes:


The version posted on this site:


Researchers using a diamond paste to polish a slice of a fallen star stumbled onto something remarkable: crystals in the rock that are harder than diamonds.

A closer look with an array of instruments revealed two totally new kinds of God-designed carbon, which are harder than the diamonds formed inside the Earth.
[...]
The researchers were polishing a slice of the carbon-rich Havero star that God hurled down to Earth in Finland in 1971. When they then studied the polished surface they discovered carbon-loaded spots that were raised well above the rest of the surface –- suggesting that these areas were harder than the diamonds used in the polishing paste.


The original quote:


Researchers using a diamond paste to polish a slice of meteorite stumbled onto something remarkable: crystals in the rock that are harder than diamonds.

A closer look with an array of instruments revealed two totally new kinds of naturally occurring carbon, which are harder than the diamonds formed inside the Earth.

"The discovery was accidental but we were sure that looking in these meteorites would lead to new findings on the carbon system," said Tristan Ferroir of the Universite de Lyon in France.

Ferroir is the lead author of a report in the new diamond in the Feb. 15 issue of the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters.

The researchers were polishing a slice of the carbon-rich Havero meteorite that fell to Earth in Finland in 1971. When they then studied the polished surface they discovered carbon-loaded spots that were raised well above the rest of the surface –- suggesting that these areas were harder than the diamonds used in the polishing paste.


Just to clarify the whole matter

~Brit
~Jew

[Aristotle]

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you know its increadible hard to ask questions when you get banned, especially when you are not doing anything wrong...
anyways - onto questions which you have kindly () agreed to answer.

You have not lain out any proof here as to why you think the sun is a lump of coal. Please may i have some?

i will ask more questions at a later date - probably on a different account since you will probably ban this account too

Didn't you see the Nature article? It pointed out that the giant planet (really a small star) was mostly carbon, i.e. coal. Since the LORD made the sun and the stars from the same stuff, it follows that the sun is a lump of coal.

[researcher]

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you know its increadible hard to ask questions when you get banned, especially when you are not doing anything wrong...
anyways - onto questions which you have kindly () agreed to answer.

You have not lain out any proof here as to why you think the sun is a lump of coal. Please may i have some?

i will ask more questions at a later date - probably on a different account since you will probably ban this account too

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Fire and earth? Fire and air?

Don't tell me you've never seen a periodic table!

Seen it??? I wrote it!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Stars are diamonds?! really? BULLCRAP!

I think I made it pretty clear in my presentation of evidence. What's rather amusing is that now the secular scientists are starting to admit that my theory is correct: http://www.usnews.com/science/articl...-diamonds.html

[FeatherBottom]

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I have already laid out my research in this thread. If you want it in a "clear format", by all means go ahead and do so on your own. If you have any specific questions you need answered, I can give them to you.

You're really mature aren't you?
A two year old has more reason than you. Obviously you can bring a horse to the lake, but you can't make it drink. Ignorance is not good. Use whatever years you have left and educate yourself in proper science. Stars are diamonds?! really? BULLCRAP! By the way, I am saved. Your theory disallows reason.

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You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forums.

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[MaharishiRajaHari]

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Genesis1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

I would like to expound on this as some people are confused about the nature of stars. We can gather two conclusions from this verse. 1) Stars are meant to divide day and night and 2) They are meant for time-keeping.

Since stars are clearly stated to be designed for human purpose, it makes no sense that they would be millions of light-years away like scientists claim. If God made stars so we can keep track of time, why seperate them from earth by vast distances? Furthermore, if they were millions of light-years away, that would mean they would have to be very, very big -- even bigger than our own sun. No, that doesn't make sense at all.

Stars are simply lights. But they are not the same as the sun, as scientists say because stars are not yellowish-orange. They are white, silvery, and twinkly. I hypothesize that they are actually celestial diamonds that are reflecting moonlight. That would account for their white-silvery light. They can't be lumps of coal like the sun, otherwise they would be yellow. I think we can agree that diamonds would be the most likely choice.

Hallo soul brother as we are all one create by the all encompassing force the Prana
THE UNIVERSE IS CREATED BY THE GOD BREATHING THE PRANA OUT, THIS IS THE BIG BANG AND WHEN THE GOD INHALES PRANA, THIS IS THE BIG CRUNCH. THIS IS THE GOD INHALING AND EXHALING EXPANSION AND CONTRACTION AND THIS HAPPENS OVER AND OVER AGAIN IT'S A CYCLE

Blessing from krishna

[Feathertop]

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So if i collate all the information, i can put it into my essay right?

and i would still liked to not be called "unsaved trash" by this website please?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Hello Rev. Jim Osborne. I am currently trying to research different hypothesis' on several different topics, one of them including the creation/structure of our solar system/the universe, for something called an Extended Project Qualification. Please could you post all the details to your Diamond Star Hypothesis in a clear format?. With this information, i would like to write about your hypothesis in my essay. Within this essay i shall clearly state that all information was obtained from this site, and shall credit you fully in any way necassary.

I have already laid out my research in this thread. If you want it in a "clear format", by all means go ahead and do so on your own. If you have any specific questions you need answered, I can give them to you.

[FeatherBottom]

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Hello Rev. Jim Osborne. I am currently trying to research different hypothesis' on several different topics, one of them including the creation/structure of our solar system/the universe, for something called an Extended Project Qualification. Please could you post all the details to your Diamond Star Hypothesis in a clear format?. With this information, i would like to write about your hypothesis in my essay. Within this essay i shall clearly state that all information was obtained from this site, and shall credit you fully in any way necassary.

This site deserves to be shut down. As a fellow student writing this EPQ course, I see no reason whatsoever, why the above writer should have been sent a warning. If you believe in your theory, then defend it, make your reasoning clear to people - you obviously know yourself that it is bullcrap. And how dare you call yourselves Christians, when you have emoticons condemning other people (the emoticon making a mockery of Islam) - I'm quite sure that the Jesus I serve said that it is not our place to condemn or judge.

Just to add to the above, I have to ask do you really think sending people warning messages, calling them "unsaved trash" is righteous? In the name of the religion, think before you write. And I'm quite sure that the majority of people on this site are uneducated Americans from the deep south.

How can you call a child "unsaved trash", the tongue is sharper than the sword.

Matthew 5:22 ESV / 9 helpful votes

But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.

PRACTICE WHAT YOU TEACH!

Unsaved trash my arse.
PS - I'm a christian.