[michele]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

Genesis 1:1-3
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

... and, as we know, God continued speaking Creation into existence. This is possible because He had already created the earth with it's atmosphere; how would have the sound of His voice carried otherwise? But according to silly secular science, there was nothing -- not even a stiff breeze -- and a big "bang!" occurred. Ridiculous! If I went into the vacuum of space and burst a balloon, no one would hear it now, would they? Of course not.

And to think these scientists insult our intelligence with such rubbish!

i think your missing the point a bit. the name "the big bang theory" isnt suggesting there was a loud noise in space. it is to suggest that there was nothing (in terms of planets, suns etc) just minerals and elements then a reaction occured that made all these elements mix and surge and bang! (as in an explosion) and these materials then combined to make new materials which in turn made planets and suns and us.

i would also like to point out that we dont worship an explosion. we believe that this is what happnend.

and again just to point out. someone said "The simplest "theory" is right. God created everything. End of theory. We prefer to call it facts though."

using you logic then. the simplest theory is that we dont exist at all and this is just a dream. end of theory. except we prefer to call it fact.

not trying to be funny just showing a different side to the argument

a fact is something that can be proven with evidence.
fact–noun something that actually exists; reality; truth:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact

[Aristotle]

We have evidence

i think your missing the point a bit. the name "the big bang theory" isnt suggesting there was a loud noise in space. it is to suggest that there was nothing (in terms of planets, suns etc) just minerals and elements then a reaction occured that made all these elements mix and surge and bang! (as in an explosion) and these materials then combined to make new materials which in turn made planets and suns and us.

i would also like to point out that we dont worship an explosion. we believe that this is what happnend.

and again just to point out. someone said "The simplest "theory" is right. God created everything. End of theory. We prefer to call it facts though."

using you logic then. the simplest theory is that we dont exist at all and this is just a dream. end of theory. except we prefer to call it fact.

not trying to be funny just showing a different side to the argument

a fact is something that can be proven with evidence.
fact–noun something that actually exists; reality; truth:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact

But we have evidence, GOD'S WORD (KJV 1611)

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

Who are you to challenge GOD?

[michele]

Re: We have evidence

you God gave me free will to do with as i wish so i may challange even him and his ideas. if we didnt have this then what would be the point in life?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: We have evidence

you God gave me free will to do with as i wish so i may challange even him and his ideas. if we didnt have this then what would be the point in life?

Yes you are allowed to act as a stupid little whore and waste your life. Eternal damnation in hell will be your reward .

[Aristotle]

Re: We have evidence

Yes you are allowed to act as a stupid little whore and waste your life. Eternal damnation in hell will be your reward .

And from her posts, a well deserved award. Too bad she doesn't realize that March is just around the corner.

[One-Note Natalie]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

Isn't there a rather large problem with the Bible? The fact that it was written by humans not God? And what about the Dinosaurs? They are not mentioned in the Bible, maybe because they were only discovered in the 60's and the Bible was written before? I imagine God just forgot to mention them.
Also why is there evil in the world? If God is benevolent then why did he allow evil to flourish? For example the snake that speaks to Adam and Eve, why did God create the snake and allow him to trick Adam and Eve into eating from the tree? Surely if God is omnipotent and omniscient he would know what was going to happen?
Furthermore i dont know if anyone here knows of the Euthyphro Dilemma? Does God command the good because it is good, or is it good because it is commanded by God? If God commands something because it is good it means he is subject to some external standard of good, something more powerful than him. Yet if it is good because God commands it then God can be seen as a dictator, we would then have no free will.
This is a major problem i think you will find.
Finally, Jesus was not "american" as the American State had not been created when he was born. Also someone from Judea would not be blonde with blue eyes, they would look much like the israelis. Also wasn't Jesus a Jew not a christian?

[SayvedByTheLord]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

In my ongoing work to witness to the heathen I ran across this absurd bit of "art". God is not amused.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

Hehe. I love science idiots. I had a discussion with one of them recently who used Genesis to attack Christianity.

"Enoch," he asked "Doesn't your silly
Bible say plants were created on the third day?"

"Yes," says I.

"And the sun gave light to the Earth on the fourth day?"
(At this point he had a laughing fit)

"Yes," I responded.

"How could there be plants without light!?"

At this point I was worried he'd cause harm to himself, he laughed so hard he started gasping and choking. Fortunately he came to after only a few seconds of unconsciousness.

"You make a good point," I replied "I'm guessing scientists believe differently?"

"Well, duh" He said.

"So what was the first life on earth like?" I asked.

"Chemosynthetic organisms, the ancestors of plants. They were the first form of life." He smiled and winked at me, apparently glad to relieve my burden of ignorance.

"Not photosynthetic?" I asked "I thought plants were photosynthetic?"

"See, you're a complete idiot" He said to me, laughing "The early Earth had a dense atmosphere much like Saturn's moon Titan has today. No sunlight penetrated to the surface! That's why the first life was chemosynthetic. "

"Ah," I said "So, it was later that the sun's light reached the surface?"

"Of course!" He replied triumphantly, "And thus photosynthesis was born!"

"Very informative," Says I. "So essentially, according to science, plants developed on earth before sunlight reached the surface, right?"

He started laughing, stopped and looked perplexed for a moment, then threw his coffee at me and left.

[True Disciple]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

In my ongoing work to witness to the heathen I ran across this absurd bit of "art". God is not amused.

That's so stupid! Everyone knows that the Dark Ages started 1500 years ago, and ended 500 years ago. Trust it to evilutionists to teach their children that it was actually 13,5 billion years ago!

[Cranky Old Man]

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Isn't there a rather large problem with the Bible?

No, the Bible is perfect.

The fact that it was written by humans not God?

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

Does God command the good because it is good, or is it good because it is commanded by God?

Many false Christians convince themselves, by skipping parts of the Bible, that God only does nice things. This is not the case, God can get very nasty.

Also wasn't Jesus a Jew not a christian?

He is the son of God. Don't you think it is stupid to suggest Jesus Christ is not a Christian?

[stuart the dim]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

oh how much fun is this......the dark ages were between the end of roman occupation in europe (415a.d.) and lasted for around 400 years,2 main reasons,the climate had become colder therefore darker,and the fall of the roman empire led to massive social unrest throughout europe this was seen as a 'dark period' for the continent.

well.....i dont doubt the excistance of jesus as it was historically recorded by the romans on several occasions that he was alive some 2.000 years ago and causing the romans some major problems,however the historical recodrs do not record any miracles occuring nor do they give any account of such happenings.
the big bang....creation,both have major flaws in thier theories,niether can be fully confirmed or denied as niether can provide adequate evidence or proof and are beliefs.
was jesus a christian....simply no,the sect of christianity developed within the hebrew church,Jesus was Jewish. He was born a Jew, lived a Jewish life, taught and read in the synagogue, and was called 'rabbi' by some of his followers. The word 'Christian' refers to the followers of 'the Christ' - the Messiah, the anointed one. Jesus, in this context could not have been a 'Christian' by definition.

[Soulless Husk]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

oh how much fun is this......the dark ages were between the end of roman occupation in europe (415a.d.) and lasted for around 400 years,2 main reasons,the climate had become colder therefore darker,and the fall of the roman empire led to massive social unrest throughout europe this was seen as a 'dark period' for the continent.

well.....i dont doubt the excistance of jesus as it was historically recorded by the romans on several occasions that he was alive some 2.000 years ago and causing the romans some major problems,however the historical recodrs do not record any miracles occuring nor do they give any account of such happenings.
the big bang....creation,both have major flaws in thier theories,niether can be fully confirmed or denied as niether can provide adequate evidence or proof and are beliefs.
was jesus a christian....simply no,the sect of christianity developed within the hebrew church,Jesus was Jewish. He was born a Jew, lived a Jewish life, taught and read in the synagogue, and was called 'rabbi' by some of his followers. The word 'Christian' refers to the followers of 'the Christ' - the Messiah, the anointed one. Jesus, in this context could not have been a 'Christian' by definition.

I don't know where you learned your history, but in bible study, we learned that the dark ages was a period of great upheaval, where unrest was caused due to the proliferation of black folks; that is where the name 'dark' ages came from.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

but in bible study, we learned that the dark ages was a period of great upheaval

How weird. When I go to Bible study we always study the actual Bible.

[Soulless Husk]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

How weird. When I go to Bible study we always study the actual Bible.

As do we. I'm not sure what our teacher was smoking that day...

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Genesis crushes silly Big Bang theory

Mrs Rogers! Your post is so true! Also, it has allowed me to do something I have wanted to do for some time – pictures of creation, Now that took me well over ½ an hour and it lacks the perfection of God’s Work, which, let us not forget, was the real thing!

All these scientist write endless tomes on the beginning of the earth, God used two Chapters.

Using Occam’s Razor, which do we choose, the simple version authorized by The Almighty or ever-changing scribblings by deluded men in white coats?

Obvious isn’t it!

Doesn't the Genesis story assume the existence of light is independent of the Sun? In other words, that light for day and night can exist on the Earth without the sun to provide light for the Earth? Where is such an independent source?