Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

[Gerry8]

Dennis Venema is a geneticist at Trinity Western University. In this series of videos he discusses whether an evangelical Christian can accept evolution. Dennis teaches biology at Trinity Western University and was faced with a situation where his church began to use the "Truth Project." He felt that he needed to respond, so he gave a series of lectures on evolution.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

No.







I don't have the time to sit through 8 1/2 minutes of heresy. All I read was the thread title.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Yes, he can.

He'll just go to hell when he dies.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

I suppose so. If they're a retarded.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Yes, he can.

He'll just go to hell when he dies.

I suppose so. If they're a retarded.

Good points Brothers! But if he is a Saved True Christian™, he is incapable of sin AND he is obviously not a retarded, as God won't let retardeds into Heaven.

But I guess there are quite a few False Christians who claim to be Saved, so I guess my 'No' above was premature. So a more complete and correct answer to the thread title would be, "Yes, if he wants to be damned to Hell by God."

I still haven't watched the video. Has anyone bothered to watch it?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Of course not. It was obviously created by Satan to tempt us.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

What kind of "Christian" is a "geneticist?"

I spend my time studying the Holy Bible, not on scientific lies and claptrap.

[The_Journey]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Dennis Venema is a geneticist at Trinity Western University. In this series of videos he discusses whether an evangelical Christian can accept evolution. Dennis teaches biology at Trinity Western University and was faced with a situation where his church began to use the "Truth Project." He felt that he needed to respond, so he gave a series of lectures on evolution.

Science won't get you anywhere. Return to God and be saved.

[Aristotle]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Didn't the Discovery Institute and Prof. Behe already show that Darwin's Theory doesn't work? Liberals just resort to it so they can commit sin and blame it on their genes.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Is that the Trinity Western University in Vancouver? The one where students believe they have a lake monster in their run-off pond?

It's a typical lower-end school that calls itself Christian so people will pay more money to send their kids there.

http://www.twu.ca/about/vision.html

Where did Christ ever say anything about 'higher education'.

[JetSet]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

What's interesting to me is that you have scientist who believe there was a big bang when in fact science itself will prove that's not possible. Sound cannot travel in a void. And regardless of which way you believe things got started (the Bible or the science) the fact remains that before it did get started there was an empty void, which sound cannot travel in.

Now the Bible states that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. It doesn't say how. So is it possible that there was some sort of explosion? Maybe. Maybe not. It could have been the way that God actually created the heavens and the earth. But a bang? No.

[Mrs. Rogers]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Now the Bible states that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. It doesn't say how.

It does so.

Genesis 1:1-3
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

... and so it continued, with GOD speaking Creation into existence.

So is it possible that there was some sort of explosion? Maybe. Maybe not.

Definitely not!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

I still haven't watched the video. Has anyone bothered to watch it?

Why? I don't need to drink from the sewer to know that it's bad for me.

[Landon88]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

Didn't the Discovery Institute and Prof. Behe already show that Darwin's Theory doesn't work? Liberals just resort to it so they can commit sin and blame it on their genes.

You have obviously misunderstood Behe's claims; he completely accepts evolution. In his own words from his most recent book, The Edge of Evolution?, pages 70-71;

"When two lineages share what appears to be an arbitrary genetic accident, the case for common descent becomes compelling, just as the case for plagiarism becomes overpowering when one writer makes the same unusual misspellings of another, within a copy of the same words. That sort of evidence is seen in the genomes of chimps and chimpanzees. For example, both humans and chimps have a broken copy of a gene that in other mammals helps make vitamin C. As a result, neither humans nor chimps can make their own vitamin C. If an ancestor of the two species originally sustained the mutation and then passed it to both descendant species, that would neatly explain the situation.

More compelling evidence for the shared ancestry of humans and other primates comes from their hemoglobin—not just their working hemoglobin, but a broken hemoglobin gene, too. .... In the region between the two gamma genes and a gene that works after birth, human DNA contains a broken gene (called a "psedugoene") that closely resembles a working gene for a beta chain, but has features in its sequence that preclude it from coding successfully for a protein.

Chimp DNA has a very similar pseudogene at the same position. The beginning of the human pseudogene has two particular changes in two nucleotides that seem to deactivate the gene. The chimp pseudogene has the exact same changes. A bit further down in the human pseudogene is a deletion mutation, where one particular letter is missing. For technical reasons, the deletion irrevocably messes up the gene's coding. The very same letter is missing in the chimp gene. Toward the end of the human pseduogene another letter is missing. The chimp pseudogene is missing it, too.

The same mistakes in the same gene in the same positions of both human and chimp DNA. If a common ancestor first sustained the mutational mistakes and subsequently gave rise to those two modern species, that would very readily account for why both species have them now. It's hard to imagine how there could be stronger evidence for common ancestry of chimps and humans.

That strong evidence from the pseudogene points well beyond the ancestry of humans. Despite some remaining puzzles, there's no reason to doubt that Darwin had this point right, that all creatures on earth are biological relatives."

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Can an Evangelical Christian Accept Evolution?

In his own words from his most recent book, The Edge of Evolution?

Ah, I remember that one from our last book burning. Why waste time on any books but the Holy Bible?