[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

I don't understand. Pi, as generically defined, is the 16th letter in the greek alphabet, and in mathematics, is defined as the ratio of a circumference of a circle to its diameter.

Is there something I am missing in this observation?

1 Kings 7:23

King James Version (KJV)

23 And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

Do the math.

[TruthbeTold]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Do the math.

By the sounds of it, you're quoting the bible. Please understand that misinterpretations make a very easy way to be misinformed. It says "round", but pi defines the circumference of a perfectly round circle. How can we be sure that the round molten sea this passage is referring to is a perfectly round circle? An oval is also round, but it is also not a circle. I found no passage that suggests that it is not an oval.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

the bible never actually mentions "pi", does it?

No, it doesn't. However, the Bible does mention cake several times. For example, there's:

And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son. 1 Kings 17:13

BTW, just for your future reference, there's an e at the end of the word pie.

[TruthbeTold]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

No, it doesn't. However, the Bible does mention cake several times.

I do not understand your established relationship between pi and baked pastries. Please elaborate.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

By the sounds of it, you're quoting the bible. Please understand that misinterpretations make a very easy way to be misinformed. It says "round", but pi defines the circumference of a perfectly round circle. How can we be sure that the round molten sea this passage is referring to is a perfectly round circle? An oval is also round, but it is also not a circle. I found no passage that suggests that it is not an oval.

Is there something that is round that is not circular? Can you think of anything?

Hmm. I think round and circular mean the same thing.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

I don't get it. What reasoning could bring someone to the conclusions that pie is equivalent to 3?

The Holy Bible tells us that the reason you don't understand is because your father is satan.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

[TruthbeTold]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Is there something that is round that is not circular? Can you think of anything?

Hmm. I think round and circular mean the same thing.

Yes, I have pointed out that an oval is also round, but not perfectly round like a circle. The passage mentioned earlier doesn't say anything about the sea being circular, but being round. I ask again for citation that suggests that the molten sea it is referring to is in fact a circle and not an oval.

The Holy Bible tells us that the reason you don't understand is because your father is satan.

That's an Ad Hominem fallacy. It's not refuting my point at all. Whether or not my father is satan (I'll have you know that he's not) is irrelevant, because my point still remains the same. As a sidenote, even satan tells the truth at times in the bible, even if they are only half-truths. A lie is more convincing when there's some truth behind it to make it appear convincing.

The poor moderation in this community (the moderators who are verbally attacking me and my registered account), are making it clear I'm unwelcome here. All I did was made a few observations and ask a few questions, and all of hell goes loose at me.
I thought this was a community that supported free speech. But it appears these forums wreak of hypocrisy.

To the moderators: if you wanted me to leave, all you had to do was ask. Before I part, I strongly suggest you reconsider your moderation methodology. If you're going to go back on the promises you obliged to, at least make it less apparent to the client. Good day.

[Noah Sole]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Yes, I have pointed out that an oval is also round, but not perfectly round like a circle.

Google 'round' - top of the list

round
Adjective:
Shaped like a circle or cylinder: "she was seated at a round table".
Noun:
A circular piece of a particular substance.
Verb:
Pass and go around (something) so as to move on in a changed direction: "the ship rounded the cape and sailed north".
Synonyms:
circular - rotund - globular - plump - spherical

Now admit you're wrong and stop whining.

Job 5:2
For wrath killeth the foolish man, and enuy slayeth the SILLY one.

YIC

[TruthbeTold]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

I came back in hopes that maybe someone in the community might see the hypocritical ways that's so apparent in this forum, but it appears these hopes have been let down.

Google 'round' - top of the list

round
Adjective:
Shaped like a circle or cylinder: "she was seated at a round table".
Noun:
A circular piece of a particular substance.
Verb:
Pass and go around (something) so as to move on in a changed direction: "the ship rounded the cape and sailed north".
Synonyms:
circular - rotund - globular - plump - spherical

Now admit you're wrong and stop whining.

Job 5:2
For wrath killeth the foolish man, and enuy slayeth the SILLY one.

YIC

I see you left out "like or approximately", thus altering the proper definition from google. Congradulations, you have effectively made yourself a liar by twisting the truth.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Yes, I have pointed out that an oval is also round, but not perfectly round like a circle. The passage mentioned earlier doesn't say anything about the sea being circular, but being round.

Friend, if God meant an oval, He would have inspired the writer to say exactly that.

[TruthbeTold]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Friend, if God meant an oval, He would have inspired the writer to say exactly that.

Or perhaps he may have left the writer to decide it for himself.

It pains me to see the hypocrisy. One person here told me to "forget reason". But they're still using some reason themselves.
If they're going to disregard reason, what's keeping them from going all the way? What if this assumed God you're preaching about wants you to do the exact opposite of what you all think he wants you to do? Sounds crazy and unreasonable? Well, there you have it- you're not supposed to use reason, right? So what's keeping you from disobeying everything from your bibles? And your prophets too? It may sound crazy, but this is the cost of throwing reason out the window. Reason is good: it makes sense of things, and helps us figure out things we don't know by using patterns and other common methodologies.

I'm not here to say you shouldn't listen to the bible, or to disrespect your religions. Nor am I here to tell you the greatness of science. I here only to observe the community and point out inconsistencies where I see them.

There's no shame in wanting to understand the truth.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Yes, I have pointed out that an oval is also round, but not perfectly round like a circle. The passage mentioned earlier doesn't say anything about the sea being circular, but being round. I ask again for citation that suggests that the molten sea it is referring to is in fact a circle and not an oval.

Pop quiz, atheist.


1. What is the perfect word to describe an oval:

a. round

b. an oval


2. God's Word is:

a. perfect

b. pretty close to perfect


3. The word round most perfectly describes:

a. a circle

b. an oval


Either Pi = 3, or the Bible is not the perfect word of the divine creator. The Bible is the perfect word of the divine creator, therefore Pi = 3.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

Or perhaps he may have left the writer to decide it for himself.

That's silly! Then God wouldn't be the author of the Holy Bible, just the producer!

It pains me to see the hypocrisy. One person here told me to "forget reason". But they're still using some reason themselves.
If they're going to disregard reason, what's keeping them from going all the way? What if this assumed God you're preaching about wants you to do the exact opposite of what you all think he wants you to do?

Friend, that's why He gave us the Holy Bible - it's His "Love Letter" to us! We can see plainly what He wants us to do. Why, there are over 600 commandments important enough for Him to specify. That's attention to detail!

I'm not here to say you shouldn't listen to the bible, or to disrespect your religions. Nor am I here to tell you the greatness of science. I here only to observe the community and point out inconsistencies where I see them.

But you do disrespect our LORD by suggesting we don't obey to His Will! What good is science? Will science offer salvation from eternal Hell? No! So why bother wasting your time when there's so much in the Holy Bible to read and learn?

[TruthbeTold]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

That's silly! Then God wouldn't be the author of the Holy Bible, just the producer!

I would like to remind you that you were the one who stated anything about a writer. In addition, I'd also like to point out that if "God meant Circle", he'd do exactly that". This same methodology applies to you.

Friend, that's why He gave us the Holy Bible - it's His "Love Letter" to us! We can see plainly what He wants us to do. Why, there are over 600 commandments important enough for Him to specify. That's attention to detail!

You are dismissing my point. Commandments aren't the issue I am discussing. The issue I'm referring to is the pragmatism that we should follow these rules, because following them makes sense, which is apparently something this community disencourages.

But you do disrespect our LORD by suggesting we don't obey to His Will! What good is science? Will science offer salvation from eternal Hell? No! So why bother wasting your time when there's so much in the Holy Bible to read and learn?

I have explicitely stated that I do not encourage you to disrespect your religion or your bible. Science is a branch of knowledge obtained through systematic observation and experimentation. It is only this an nothing more- anyone who claimed otherwise (including science=atheism ) is disrespecting honest folk who are on a simple search for truth such as myself. To answer your question, science is good for lots of things, like solving worldly problems and advancing internet and technology. I read my science book because it has more pages than the bible, is written in proper modern English, and explains things in an intuitive and reasonable way.

Either Pi = 3, or the Bible is not the perfect word of the divine creator. The Bible is the perfect word of the divine creator, therefore Pi = 3.

Your first mistake is calling me an atheist. I have never claimed or denied the existence of a god, so I will skip your little ambiguous quiz.
Your second mistake is implicitly claiming that the Bible explicitly says that Pi = 3. You have yet to cite this. I warn you that you are on the verge of making yourself a liar, something your god abhors.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Pi Calculated to 4.5 billion decimal places

I here only to observe the community and point out inconsistencies where I see them.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.