[paula]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

Thanks for proving evolution. You just gave support for evolution. Evolution says that any species most fit to survive will survive. If you're the only species resistant to herbicides, then when all the other herbicides you tend to monopolize the nutrients and use it to spread and propagate your own genus.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

Thanks for proving evolution. You just gave support for evolution. Evolution says that any species most fit to survive will survive. If you're the only species resistant to herbicides, then when all the other herbicides you tend to monopolize the nutrients and use it to spread and propagate your own genus.

But these species weren't resistant before and now they are. Brother Jeb and Mayor Hold are right. God has made these weeds resistant because men are to be out hoeing their crops, not spraying from the air conditioned cab of a tractor.

[paula]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

But these species weren't resistant before and now they are. Brother Jeb and Mayor Hold are right. God has made these weeds resistant because men are to be out hoeing their crops, not spraying from the air conditioned cab of a tractor.

Exactly. That is what evolution is. That things adapt to change their environment over time so they can survive over other things. By evolution, the herbs that can't adapt to weed killer and resist it die. And the ones that can survive and spread.

[Malaysia_Christian]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

That is adaption to environment. That doesn't prove evolution.

Cockroaches slowly grow resistance towards pesticide. Does it grow resistance to sledgehammer?

Human slowly grow resistance towards diseases. Can human therefore according to your "evolution theory" survive explosive blast?

[paula]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

That is adaption to environment.

Yes, which is part of evolution! You see? THAT is what natural selection is like! And that is what evolution is built upon.

Cockroaches slowly grow resistance towards pesticide. Does it grow resistance to sledgehammer?

Ahhh, Kent Hovind. That is something completely different. A sledgehammer is a solid substance, not a toxin. You can't build a genetic defense against a solid weapon.

You can, however, grow an extremely thick and strong outer shell and grow massively in size. /joke

Human slowly grow resistance towards diseases. Can human therefore according to your "evolution theory" survive explosive blast?

It is called adaption. Those who cannot develop resistances to such diseases tend to die off while those who do tend to thrive and prosper as they can't be killed of by it.

The explosive blast has nothing to do with it, as that is not something you can build a genetic defense against, unlike viruses/bacteria and biotoxins.

[Malaysia_Christian]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

Yes, which is part of evolution! You see? THAT is what natural selection is like! And that is what evolution is built upon.


Ahhh, Kent Hovind. That is something completely different. A sledgehammer is a solid substance, not a toxin. You can't build a genetic defense against a solid weapon.

You can, however, grow an extremely thick and strong outer shell and grow massively in size. /joke


It is called adaption. Those who cannot develop resistances to such diseases tend to die off while those who do tend to thrive and prosper as they can't be killed of by it.

The explosive blast has nothing to do with it, as that is not something you can build a genetic defense against, unlike viruses/bacteria and biotoxins.

1. No it doesn't. Growing stronger doesn't mean you need to evolve. Man, if you say so you gonna offend a lot of body builders. See they eat a lot to get alltheir muscles build up. They slowly adapted to their environment. Most builders grow lots of hair too by the way. That proves they are becoming gorillas? Man, that's reverse evolution doesn't it?

2. Haha, bigger in size. Stornger in shell.. Can they sruvive? Please. Don't do things like shooting yourself in your foot.

3. Can human somehow "evolve" into survivng all sorts of cancer? No. But hey, good news. Apes can. We need to reverse evolved then? Hahah!

[paula]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

1. No it doesn't. Growing stronger doesn't mean you need to evolve. Man, if you say so you gonna offend a lot of body builders. See they eat a lot to get alltheir muscles build up. They slowly adapted to their environment. Most builders grow lots of hair too by the way. That proves they are becoming gorillas? Man, that's reverse evolution doesn't it?

Now you're misconstruing everything and twisting it. It's none of that at all. Muscle builders build up their muscles, but that has nothing to do with their genes. The amount of hair you have does not by itself prove that you are close to any other species. Building a biochemical resistance is on the genetic scale, and that is why it happens.

Also, as for evolution, you seem to have a misconception, humans are not gorillas, we share a a common ancestor with Gorillas, but we are not them. Sure, we are apes, but that is due to taxonomy (which is, btw, made by a very devout God-believing Christian and creationist), or how we classify species.

2. Haha, bigger in size. Stornger in shell.. Can they sruvive? Please. Don't do things like shooting yourself in your foot.

Do you not understand what a joke is??

You can't build an adaption to a physical object like that. For example, if you have a hypothetical cockroach 500x500x500 feet in size made of a tough natural substance such as solid bone (not the pourous bones that humans have) and is a few feet thick, then that would work. But...the animal would die underneath it's own weight and whatnot and not be able to move.

3. Can human somehow "evolve" into survivng all sorts of cancer? No. But hey, good news. Apes can. We need to reverse evolved then? Hahah!

No, because a cancer is not a virus. A cancer is a harmful mutation from our own genome, for the most part. You can't build a natural resistance against it because you can't build a genetic defense against your own genome within your own lifetime, and if your children inheret such a thing then even then it would still apply to your genome, not theirs and, as such, it would not help them much at all.

[Malaysia_Christian]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

Now you're misconstruing everything and twisting it. It's none of that at all. Muscle builders build up their muscles, but that has nothing to do with their genes. The amount of hair you have does not by itself prove that you are close to any other species. Building a biochemical resistance is on the genetic scale, and that is why it happens.

Also, as for evolution, you seem to have a misconception, humans are not gorillas, we share a a common ancestor with Gorillas, but we are not them. Sure, we are apes, but that is due to taxonomy (which is, btw, made by a very devout God-believing Christian and creationist), or how we classify species.


Do you not understand what a joke is??

You can't build an adaption to a physical object like that. For example, if you have a hypothetical cockroach 500x500x500 feet in size made of a tough natural substance such as solid bone (not the pourous bones that humans have) and is a few feet thick, then that would work. But...the animal would die underneath it's own weight and whatnot and not be able to move.


No, because a cancer is not a virus. A cancer is a harmful mutation from our own genome, for the most part. You can't build a natural resistance against it because you can't build a genetic defense against your own genome within your own lifetime, and if your children inheret such a thing then even then it would still apply to your genome, not theirs and, as such, it would not help them much at all.

Common ancestor also means same grandpa. Also means we are related. Also means we're the same. So by your theory, you are obliged to call gorillas your cousin.

You see. Adaptation is never evolution. A lifeform grow adapted to environment to live. "Survival of fittest" never happen. It's not that we are fit enough to survive, it's we learn how to survive by our diet, our actions etc. It's not stongest that survive. Adapting to environment means learning how to survive or live under that condition. IT doesn't means we slowly mutated into able to live in that condition.

Adaptation never requires one to evovle. It is an obvious evidence of how a lifeform learned to survive under certain condition. Not mutated or evolve to fit the condition.

1. Human learned how to survive under extreme cold and extreme hot condition. Not mutated to fit in those condition.

2. Fish learned how to survive salt water condition. Not mutated itno fit in those condition.

Get your science, logic, and perhaps, if you are maths geeks, mathematics, right. Man...

[BelieverInGod]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

Exactly. That is what evolution is. That things adapt to change their environment over time so they can survive over other things. By evolution, the herbs that can't adapt to weed killer and resist it die. And the ones that can survive and spread.

Okay so the weeds got together and figured out the chemical composition of Roundup and how to combat it? How exactly does a weed adapt? Animals can move, animals can think, animals can even choose who they breed with, plants can do none of that stuff.

God put weeds on this earth as a punishment for Adam listening to Eve.

Genesis 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

I find it easier to believe that God has made these weeds resistant to remind us of our sin, than to believe that the weeds got together and figured out how to combat Roundup.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

I fear that this is worse than it appears. Weeds are God’s living parable. They are a permanent symbol and the most holy representation of sinners:

M't:13:25: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
M't:13:26: But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
M't:13:27: So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
M't:13:29: But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
M't:13:30: Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
M't:13:36: Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
M't:13:38: The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
M't:13:40: As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

If Monsanto, at the behest of their master Satan and under the control of evil scientists, think that they can cure sin in the world by destroying what God has created FOR A PURPOSE, they are sadly mistaken.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: More evidence against evilution: Herbicide-resistant weeds

If Monsanto, at the behest of their master Satan and under the control of evil scientists, think that they can cure sin in the world by destroying what God has created FOR A PURPOSE, they are sadly mistaken.

Uhm, brother Bathfire? Landover Baptist Church (through it's offshore holdings) owns several thousand shares of Monsanto. I'm just sayin'.