[Levi Jones]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Oh dear.. I guess it's my time now. *cracks knuckles*

Be right with you. Give me a moment to give you a nice scriptural response.

Deuteronomy 31:6
John 3:16
Isaiah 35:4
Isaiah 41:10
Psalm 28:7-9

Also when I went to a Christian private school, my 3rd grade teacher told us that there was not a soul on this Earth that God didn't love.
Yet, if Pastor Ezekiel, someone I know from the internet, read something in a 2000 year old book written by desert people in tents, he must be right, and there's not a possible chance I am.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Deuteronomy 31:6
John 3:16
Isaiah 35:4
Isaiah 41:10
Psalm 28:7-9

None of those verses back up your claim. Let me just give you one example.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Jesus DID NOT die for everyone

He died for those that BELIEVE.

Everyone doesn't believe in Jesus, thus they will perish.


In the more macro sense, why would God create hell if He loves everyone unconditionally?

Also when I went to a Christian private school, my 3rd grade teacher told us that there was not a soul on this Earth that God didn't love.
Yet, if Pastor Ezekiel, someone I know from the internet, read something in a 2000 year old book written by desert people in tents, he must be right, and there's not a possible chance I am.

So which is it? Do you care what the Holy Bible says, or do you reject it? You can't have it both ways.

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

[quitestupid]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

None of those verses back up your claim. Let me just give you one example.



Jesus DID NOT die for everyone

He died for those that BELIEVE.

Everyone doesn't believe in Jesus, thus they will perish.


In the more macro sense, why would God create hell if He loves everyone unconditionally?





So which is it? Do you care what the Holy Bible says, or do you reject it? You can't have it both ways.

So then, how come back when everyone in my family went to church, and worshiped God, that blessed my nine year old sister with a brain tumor, which ended up killing her? If she went to church and prayed to God, why would he kill her? Or was it gravity that killed her?

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Deuteronomy 31:6
John 3:16
Isaiah 35:4
Isaiah 41:10
Psalm 28:7-9

Also when I went to a Christian private school, my 3rd grade teacher told us that there was not a soul on this Earth that God didn't love.
Yet, if Pastor Ezekiel, someone I know from the internet, read something in a 2000 year old book written by desert people in tents, he must be right, and there's not a possible chance I am.

Lets have a look at your verses

Deuteronomy 31:6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.

Only believers here

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Only believers here.

Isaiah 35:4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.

God will save the believers

Isaiah 41:10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

Taking to believers here.

Psalm 28:7-9
7 The LORD is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in him, and I am helped: therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth; and with my song will I praise him.
8 The LORD is their strength, and he is the saving strength of his anointed.
9 Save thy people, and bless thine inheritance: feed them also, and lift them up for ever.

Taking about believers here also.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So then, how come back when everyone in my family went to church, and worshiped God, that blessed my nine year old sister with a brain tumor, which ended up killing her? If she went to church and prayed to God, why would he kill her? Or was it gravity that killed her?

Jesus killed her, you fool. I suppose your sister must have enraged Him somehow, but I promise you that He was the one who killed her. It's His job!

You see when really bad things happen (like you get eaten by wild beasts, get killed in war, get sick and die, etc.), then you'll know that it was God that did it to you.

Ezekiel 14:13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:

14:15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:

14:17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it:

14:19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:

14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So then, how come back when everyone in my family went to church, and worshiped God, that blessed my nine year old sister with a brain tumor, which ended up killing her? If she went to church and prayed to God, why would he kill her? Or was it gravity that killed her?

Because you were false christians that belong to a fuzzy bunny false church. Where did you ever get the idea that God could be ordered to do things like a vending machine?

[quitestupid]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Because you were false christians that belong to a fuzzy bunny false church. Where did you ever get the idea that God could be ordered to do things like a vending machine?

So you're saying that out of all the different denominations of Christianity, there's only ONE that's true, and even if I believe in the Christian God, if I don't worship him the right way, I'll burn in Hell?

He sounds very picky, as if he doesn't even WANT people in Heaven.

[Levi Jones]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Deuteronomy 31:6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.

Cherrypick number one. That refers to if you are following what God tells you to. Let's look a little further in Deuteronomy 31 for what God tells Moses is going to happen to the people when they quit worshiping the LORD.

16And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.
17Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us?

John 3:16

And two verses lower, God explains what will happen to those who reject His temporary sacrifice.

18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Isaiah 35:4
4Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.

Nothing about loving everyone there.

Isaiah 41:10

Cherrypicked. Look at the context. It has to do with Cyrus getting revenge for the Jews against the Babylonians. It has nothing to do with God loving everyone.

Psalm 28:7-9
7The LORD is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in him, and I am helped: therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth; and with my song will I praise him.
8The LORD is their strength, and he is the saving strength of his anointed.
9Save thy people, and bless thine inheritance: feed them also, and lift them up for ever.

His anointed. Where in there does it say that God loves everyone?

Also when I went to a Christian private school, my 3rd grade teacher told us that there was not a soul on this Earth that God didn't love.

Your fluffy bunny 3rd grade teacher lied to you? Stop the presses.

Read Romans 9. Paul makes it quite clear that God uses some people for destruction, so they can prove His power.

Here's a quick starter verse.

13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Keep reading, boy.

14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

Keep going..

18Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

Maybe Sister fluffy bunny false Christian should be reading her Bible instead of telling children lies about the nature of the LORD.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So you're saying that out of all the different denominations of Christianity, there's only ONE that's true, and even if I believe in the Christian God, if I don't worship him the right way, I'll burn in Hell?

Yes, you are beginning to understand. God wants us to follow all of the Bible, not just bits and pieces. If you are guilty of one sin, you are guilty of all.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

He sounds very picky, as if he doesn't even WANT people in Heaven.

Jesus Himself tells us that only a few people will join Him in Heaven.

Matthew 7:13-14
13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

[Levi Jones]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

why would he kill her?

As it is written in Isaiah 45:7,

I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.

The ways of God are mysterious, indeed.

And before you ask why, read Romans 9 again as I asked you.

[jimbob jones]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.

Actually you wouldn't fall out of the truck, you just jump up and land back down where you were in the truck.. I have done this. I have also done this on an airplane.


Also the point you made about the balloon not making the piece of paper stick to it has a couple of flaws. Firstly when you inflate a balloon you do not increase it's mass, you only spread it's mass out over a greater area. Size and mass are 2 different things. Secondly, the earth is bigger than the balloon so it stands to reason that the piece of paper would fall to the ground rather than stay on the balloon as the earth has a stronger gravitational pull.


I would love to hear your thoughts on these problems.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So you're saying that out of all the different denominations of Christianity, there's only ONE that's true, and even if I believe in the Christian God, if I don't worship him the right way, I'll burn in Hell?

He sounds very picky, as if he doesn't even WANT people in Heaven.

It doesn't really have to do with denomination, it has to do with reading His Word (KJV1611) and FOLLOWING IT! So far I've only met Baptists that fit that, all though there are a lot of fuzzy bunny baptists running around.

What did you think Matthew 20:16 and 22:14 meant?

For many are called, but few are chosen.

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Actually you wouldn't fall out of the truck, you just jump up and land back down where you were in the truck.. I have done this. I have also done this on an airplane.


Also the point you made about the balloon not making the piece of paper stick to it has a couple of flaws. Firstly when you inflate a balloon you do not increase it's mass, you only spread it's mass out over a greater area. Size and mass are 2 different things. Secondly, the earth is bigger than the balloon so it stands to reason that the piece of paper would fall to the ground rather than stay on the balloon as the earth has a stronger gravitational pull.


I would love to hear your thoughts on these problems.

you do not sound very convincing. The piece of paper still falls off a heavy object like a bowling ball.

[jimbob jones]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

you do not sound very convincing. The piece of paper still falls off a heavy object like a bowling ball.

That is because the Earth has a greater mass than a bowling ball.

[Lisa H]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

That is because the Earth has a greater mass than a bowling ball.

No. It is because the earth is flat. Flat objects can hold things, spherical objects cannot.