[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Maybe that's why you people here don't understand any of this. Two lazy to read anything long besides the one thing you believe in. Read it. Might learn something. Also for someone who is giving me a "warning" about my "unsaved trash", you might want to READ my post first.

How many times have you been to the top of Mount Everest?



YIC, McUinnean of that Ilk.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Maybe that's why you people here don't understand any of this. Two lazy to read anything long besides the one thing you believe in. Read it. Might learn something. Also for someone who is giving me a "warning" about my "unsaved trash", you might want to READ my post first.

Oh so now you all change the game on us. Suddenly things are to complex to understand, the world is ineffable all of a sudden. Well friend, as a TRUE Christian(tm) I don't accept ineffable ideas. I want nice, clean simple ideas like The Bible presents.

[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Mount Everest is 5 miles high. Rhode Island is 40 miles wide. Even if Mount Everest was plopped right in the middle of Rhode Island, you wouldn't be able to see the whole planet. Not to mention, I haven't heard ANY cases of people saying that the world is flat when they have reached the top of Mount Everest.

Julian.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Maybe that's why you people here don't understand any of this. Two lazy to read anything long besides the one thing you believe in. Read it. Might learn something. Also for someone who is giving me a "warning" about my "unsaved trash", you might want to READ my post first.

I skimmed through it. It's just the same nonsense that has been repeated over and over throughout this thread. And YOU would have known that if you hadn't been too lazy to read the topic you were replying to.

And you are unsaved trash, I don't see what you are complaining about.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Mount Everest is 5 miles high. Rhode Island is 40 miles wide. Even if Mount Everest was plopped right in the middle of Rhode Island, you wouldn't be able to see the whole planet. Not to mention, I haven't heard ANY cases of people saying that the world is flat when they have reached the top of Mount Everest.

Julian.

There is one case:
Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

The devil takes Jesus up to the top of "an exceeding high mountain," high enough to see "all the kingdoms of the world."

As for the other people, it was probably too cloudy when they went up there.

[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Oh so now you all change the game on us. Suddenly things are to complex to understand, the world is ineffable all of a sudden. Well friend, as a TRUE Christian™ I don't accept ineffable ideas. I want nice, clean simple ideas like The Bible presents.

Clean and simple? You can't prove them! Are you just going to accept the first ideas that come to you that sound clean and simple? That's how Hitler took over Germany! That's how cults get people to follow them and KILL themselves! That is literally the DEFINITION of ignorance. I'm not speaking to flame you, I just hope you don't bump into a cult leader!

Also on a separate note, I've been given an "infraction" for "speaking out of turn". So basically, because I offer a counterpoint to what you are saying, I cannot speak at all. You silence the ones who disagree with you. Again, this is sounding a lot like Hilter. Maybe Religion is as bad as I originally thought.

Julian.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Clean and simple? You can't prove them! Are you just going to accept the first ideas that come to you that sound clean and simple? That's how Hitler took over Germany! That's how cults get people to follow them and KILL themselves! That is literally the DEFINITION of ignorance. I'm not speaking to flame you, I just hope you don't bump into a cult leader!

Also on a separate note, I've been given an "infraction" for "speaking out of turn". So basically, because I offer a counterpoint to what you are saying, I cannot speak at all. You silence the ones who disagree with you. Again, this is sounding a lot like Hilter. Maybe Religion is as bad as I originally thought.

Julian.

We are not hurt by your Anti-Christian hate speech. We Christians are used to being persecuted, and Jesus tells us we our blessed for it.

[GOD=life]

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Religion does some great things for people.

Wrong. Religion does nothing for people. It's God who does things for people. We do not worship religion, we worship God.

Now, before you say I should go to hell and that I'm a sinner and a horrible person, why don't you get to know me first?

The Bible teaches us that no matter how great or caring of a person you are, you will go to Hell if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your savior, surrendered to God and follow the KJV 1611 Bible to the letter.

So, to be clear: no matter how respectful you are, no matter how much you do for your community, no matter how much you give to charities, no matter how much you love everyone, you will go to Hell

That's not because we don't like you, but because that's exactly how it's written in the Bible. In fact, it's because we like you that we're giving you a chance to come join us in Heaven. Surely you cannot possibly find any logical reason to interpret that as hate??

And before you blame us, we didn't invent the rules. God did.

I respect women and treat them as equals to me.

Maybe that's because you secretly want to be a woman instead. No Christian man treats a woman as equals.

1 Cor. 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
11:8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

My point is, I'm not a bad guy and my goal is to make this world a better place to live in for everyone.

Well, let's say that you give your friends $10. You're pretty cool, right? But then you notice a lottery ticket that's worth $1,000,000. You throw the lottery ticket away. So they may think you're a good friend. In reality, you've taken the greatest gift ever away from them.

That's what you're doing by turning people away from God. You're condemning them to Hell. Satan is proud of you.

Julian.

They should not have let you out, Mr. Assange.

[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

We are not hurt by your Anti-Christian hate speech. We Christians are used to being persecuted, and Jesus tells us we our blessed for it.

And cult leaders tell people that if they kill themselves they will join the aliens on a magical comet. People will tell you a lot of things. It doesn't mean it's true. Open your eyes.

Julian.

[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

And before you blame us, we didn't invent the rules. God did.

Did it ever occur to you that he DIDN'T? I'm not saying he doesn't exist, I can't prove that, but maybe that if there is a God, the Bible isn't correctly displaying his word? Maybe God put us here and just let us go! That's it! Now, there is no way to prove that is true and neither is there with your book! Why live your life in a way that restricts you and others for no reason? Just be a good person! Do what you believe is right! You don't need a book to tell you how, especially if that book says women are NOT equal to men! We are all human beings. We are all equals. Maybe not in merit, but as humans.

Julian.

[Nobar King]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

We are all equals. Maybe not in merit, but as humans.

Julian.

So, you think all humans are equal except when they're not. Care to explain that one?

[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So, you think all humans are equal except when they're not. Care to explain that one?

Of course. I do martial arts and I've been doing it for years. Since I was four. If I was to apply for a job as an instructor for another school vs someone who has never done it before, I should get the job. My merit is higher in this case. Now, if I commit a crime such as murder, it doesn't matter who I am or what I've done. I don't care if I am the president of the USA, I should be punished equally. It shouldn't matter if I am a women, man, gay, straight, bi, or w/e! Equal merit deserves equal reward regardless of race, gender or other similar things.

Julian.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

And cult leaders tell people that if they kill themselves they will join the aliens on a magical comet. People will tell you a lot of things. It doesn't mean it's true. Open your eyes.

Julian.

So I should just blindly obey you?

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Mount Everest is 5 miles high. Rhode Island is 40 miles wide. Even if Mount Everest was plopped right in the middle of Rhode Island, you wouldn't be able to see the whole planet. Not to mention, I haven't heard ANY cases of people saying that the world is flat when they have reached the top of Mount Everest.

Julian.

So you prefer to rely on hearsay Julian? Or rather the total lack of it.

Nice work. Nice Logic. Nice nothing. You lose.

YIC, McUinnean of that Ilk.

[TheWorldisflat]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

So you prefer to rely on hearsay Julian? Or rather the total lack of it.

Nice work. Nice Logic. Nice nothing. You lose.

YIC, McUinnean of that Ilk.

Alright try this one then:

To start with... there's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round. Hundreds of years ago, before the invention of the compass or sextant, precise navigation for ships was difficult, even with the stars. Ships that ventured past sight of land were often lost, and thus it was generally believed that the world simply *stopped* at the end of the horizon. With the invention of the compass, and improved map-making, people began to dare more, and with the return of Columbus from his trans-Atlantic voyage, the concept of the Earth as flat was shattered.

Further proof of the Earth being round came after the voyage of Columbus. When Newton discovered and measured the force of gravity, that number could then be tested anywhere the theory was known. Since the force of gravity is roughly the same everywhere on the globe, it could be surmised that the Earth must be spherical. If the Earth were not round, whole hemispheres would have different atmospheric pressure and significantly different sea levels. Also, pictures taken of the Earth in the last 50 years have proved absolutely conclusively that the Earth is round. These are just the arguments that don't require much physics knowledge to explain, there are others that are more technical, but I think that the simplest arguments are.

You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

Also, don't give me that we've never been to space. Explain to me how your cell phone works. Yes, we've been to space. That is literally the dumbest argument there is. The old "It didn't happen, then" argument. Something disproves you, "Well, then they made it all up! Just to be a jerk".