[Lover Of Truth]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.



2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.


3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

Yours in Christ,

Rev. Jim Osborne

Well I have to say... You tried

I bet that a 14 year old GIRL can debunk all of your facts with the actual truth

First of all... The 1st test

Yes... We do say that the earth rotates at about 1000 miles an hour... So why don't you go flying away with a single jump?

Well... This can easily be debunked

If you have ever been on a long boring road trip (or maybe you people are so uptight as to never have fun) you might have something like a ball or something that you throw up into the air and then catch as it comes back to you... Well obviously that doesn't prove anything right?

Well the thing is... If what you say is true and if the earth was round and spinning at over 1000 miles an hour... Then why does the ball in your car not fly at a speed of 60mph back and hit your back window?

That's because there is a thing called inertia... A object in motion stays in motion and an object at rest will stay at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. So the reason why you don't go flying hundreds of miles away is because you are already in motion!

The second test with the ballon is also easily debunked... The ballon is obviously much bigger than the tiny sheet of paper so obviously it has more mass! So why doesn't it pull towards the ballon like the earth and people? The thing is... The ballon is mostly air, correct? That's how balloons work...

Air does not contain much mass... Air is not very dense at all (density is the amount of matter in a certain volume, which is the size of the object)

Thus... The balloon probably has just as much mass as the paper. And does not have much of a pull on the object... Plus the gravity of the earth pulling on the paper is much greater than that of the balloons. So rather than being pulled to the balloon it is pulled to the earth. The reason why helium balloons float is because the density of helium is way less than the density of the air around you... So it is pushed up into the atmosphere.

If you were to test this theory in a vaccuum chamber similar to that of space, you would find that an object of larger mass would pull one of smaller mass towards it.

And for the very last experiment, I can debunk it with the experiment itself

Why can't you see tall structures like the eiffle tower and the Empire State Building from where you stand

Surely if you had great enough vision to see that far and clearly you would see it

But you cannot
For the earth is round

That is why we have time zones, and seasons, and the reason why day and night exist

That's why the sun sets and rises... And that's why Australians don't fall of the earth into space



If anyone can debunk my proof with hardcore evidence that can not be countered and do not use scripture of the bible

They are much greater

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! ARE YOU COMING ON TO HER?!?!

re-read, I'm not overly fond of repeating myself.

I can see why, repeating lies and misinformation is embarrassing.

The bumps thing....what??

Bumps! Bumps on your head! Phrenology! Here's you two women spouting "science" and you have no idea about one of the great scientific advances in the last 200 years - Phrenology: the secrets of the character revealed by the shape, size and protuberances of the human head."

I'm on a break, I'll get back to my writings for the liberal press shortly.

As was foretold...

[Lover Of Truth]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I have a question...

If it is true that the earth is flat, then how do time zones work? (This is purely curiosity and not in anyway spite towards the evidence you have put forward)

I was trying to find it earlier but there are so many pages to this thread...

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

OH SNAP!

This is a very powerful prayer against witchcraft. This prayer can shut down witches and satanists forever. Being that this prayer basically shuts down the senders of the hexes and vexes by returning their evil to them sevenfold. I now hurl it at you in Christ's name!

Father,
In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I plead the precious uncorruptable blood of Jesus over myself and my church and everything that belongs to us. I ask for giant warrior Angels to be loosed from Heaven to surround and protect us. As your war club and weapons of war I break down, undamn, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, physic prayers, physic thought, all witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, physic power, physic warfare, prayer chains, and everything else being sent my way or my family members way, and I return it and the demons to the senders right now!, SEVENFOLD, and I BIND it to them by the Blood of Jesus!

Father, I pray that these lost souls will find the light of your son Jesus.. Their own snares and traps have been set against themselves.. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I now loose them from all mindcontrol of satan!.. Father I also ask that you Bind the Holy Spirit to there hearts as a guide to your son Jesus.. So they may be set free from the bondages of satan.

In Jesus name I pray..
Amen

[WickedWitch]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Don't you know how to play chess? Checkmate is when you beat the other person, not when you get your rear end handed to you.

OH SNAP!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

As BuddyB said "No one's been in space like you think." (i) Oh, so you're handing out telescopes to the poor now, are you? (ii) Looking through a telescope at the earth is very difficult unless you are in heaven (where you will have perfect eyesight and not need a telescope.)

In this case I was referring to looking at the other planets which revolve around the sun. As to people being in space, I've covered that in my other post, so please go back and re-read, I'm not overly fond of repeating myself.

And the Bible has been read repeatedly, and that is true: Checkmate, witch.

Um, no it isn't. I've given you examples of factual, observable phenomena, you're referring to a collection of bronze age stories later edited by a bunch of angry old Romans, going through further edits by even more angry old perverts along the way until you have your dear KJV that you love so much.
As I mentioned, Jules Verne has written FICTION in which actual observable phenomena is accurate (from Earth to the Moon). The bible, on the other hand, says that the Earth is flat, something conclusively disproved.
Don't you know how to play chess? Checkmate is when you beat the other person, not when you get your rear end handed to you.

(i) Where's my free telescope? Why do I need a telescope to see the sky? I can
see the sun and that's over 500 miles away! (ii) Well, you say it is due to
"gravity" - let's see your proof of how 'gravity' actually works...

As I said, this is covered in my previous post(s). Again, repeating myself, not cool! I do that enough in the office, thankyou.
You can get telescopes pretty cheap:

http://www.telescopes.com/

Check it out, surely there's something even those who keep popping out kids for social welfare and/or reality TV can afford!

No we don't. I challenge you to get inside of an ant... I seem to be losing your
drift here.You said we could see the earth as a celestial body with a telescope
(one of your free ones). Now you say you have to be in heaven to see earth - you
need your bumps feeling.

The bumps thing....what??
Also, I think you need to read carefully. I said you can see celestial bodies, the Earth being such a celestial body. I never claimed you can see earth as a globe from on the surface - in fact I explained decisively why you need to be outside of it to do so.
You're really grasping at straws here, buddy.

Bald statement - If I put my mnd to it I can say stupid things too! Jules Verne
is dead so he's not being very accurate at the moment - being a Catlick, he's in
Hell, so his mind is probably on other things.Buddy wasn't: he was looking at
the Bible.

Your point?
And I'm looking at an Excel spreadsheet, which contains more factual information than a bible ever will.
All hail Lord Miros Of Office.

I took you more as the handmaiden of Satan rather than a fluffy-bunny Christian with your shiny apologetics: Hell's real enough. A spade should be called a spade.

Don't ever call me that. That there is one horrific insult. I would sooner worship a steaming pile of turd than be a christian/any kind of abrahamic believer. In this topic I'm talking about science. Observable fact.

This has nothing to do with the flatness of the earth. Please keep on topic!

I believe I already apologized for going OT.

The word was that you were crushed to death by a particularly large broccoli stalk you were worshiping - I can't say I'm pleased to see you back, anyway, you've had your irrelevant say: you can get back to writing your messages of hatred for all things good and American to the liberal press.
SHOO!

I'm on a break, I'll get back to my writings for the liberal press shortly.

[WickedWitch]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Now you say you have to be in heaven to see earth - you need your bumps feeling.

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! ARE YOU COMING ON TO HER?!?!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Anyone rich enough can actually go into space.

As BuddyB said "No one's been in space like you think."

Anyone, rich or no, can look through a telescope and see these celestial bodies for themselves, of which earth is one.

(i) Oh, so you're handing out telescopes to the poor now, are you? (ii) Looking through a telescope at the earth is very difficult unless you are in heaven (where you will have perfect eyesight and not need a telescope.)

Those references are ridiculous. One a video of yet another person trying to claim the moon landing is a hoax. This has been disproved repeatedly.

And the Bible has been read repeatedly, and that is true: Checkmate, witch.

Anyone with a telescope can see it in the sky, orbiting the earth due to that gravity thing.

(i) Where's my free telescope? Why do I need a telescope to see the sky? I can see the sun and that's over 500 miles away! (ii) Well, you say it is due to "gravity" - let's see your proof of how 'gravity' actually works...

We know that we can perceive a dimension that the ant on the balloon cannot.

No we don't.

We, outside of the ant, can clearly observe this phenomenon.

I challenge you to get inside of an ant... I seem to be losing your drift here.

Likewise those from space can see the Earth as a globe that we on the surface cannot.

You said we could see the earth as a celestial body with a telescope (one of your free ones). Now you say you have to be in heaven to see earth - you need your bumps feeling.

The bible doesn't count in any way as scientific evidence, sorry.

Bald statement - If I put my mnd to it I can say stupid things too!

Jules Verne is more accurate,

Jules Verne is dead so he's not being very accurate at the moment - being a Catlick, he's in Hell, so his mind is probably on other things.

not to mention a better writer, if you're looking at fiction.

Buddy wasn't: he was looking at the Bible.

Let's not even get started on the whole 'hell' thing. If you look at the origin in that book you love so much it refers to 'sheol' and 'gehenna' but not hell.

I took you more as the handmaiden of Satan rather than a fluffy-bunny Christian with your shiny apologetics: Hell's real enough. A spade should be called a spade.

'Hell' is a later invention.

This has nothing to do with the flatness of the earth. Please keep on topic!

This is what happens when amateurs come out to play with the veterans..

The word was that you were crushed to death by a particularly large broccoli stalk you were worshiping - I can't say I'm pleased to see you back, anyway, you've had your irrelevant say: you can get back to writing your messages of hatred for all things good and American to the liberal press.

SHOO!

[WickedWitch]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Huge type and purple all-caps is all good and everything, but you really need to use Comic Sans to get people to take you seriously.

GOOD POINT.


P.S.
THIS IS WHAT PURPLE LOOKS LIKE.

Aww, thanks.

Next thing you know, these guys will start talking about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.

Dihydrogen monoxide can kill!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SO MANY GOOD REP POINTS FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING BUT I CAN'T!

Aww, thanks.

Next thing you know, these guys will start talking about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.

[Didymus Much]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SO MANY GOOD REP POINTS FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING BUT I CAN'T!

Huge type and purple all-caps is all good and everything, but you really need to use Comic Sans to get people to take you seriously.




























/sarcasm

[WickedWitch]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Oh really? Please cite me an observable instance of this actually happening. And no, sorry, death doesn't count. For all you know when they died their consciousness may have been transported to Teletubby land. Although in terms of afterlife destinations, that would be pretty horrific if there were such a thing.... I find those Teletubby things infinitely disturbing..


Yawn. So basically, being unable to refute actual facts as I've previously presented, you revert to insults and 'cuz I said so'.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SO MANY GOOD REP POINTS FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING BUT I CAN'T!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Anyone foolish enough (feel familiar?) can go to Hell. That is a fact, recorded in history.

Oh really? Please cite me an observable instance of this actually happening. And no, sorry, death doesn't count. For all you know when they died their consciousness may have been transported to Teletubby land. Although in terms of afterlife destinations, that would be pretty horrific if there were such a thing.... I find those Teletubby things infinitely disturbing..

I can look at a picture my kid drew of a tomato yet I cannot eat it or go into it.
To see the Earth, a person only needs to look down.

Yawn. So basically, being unable to refute actual facts as I've previously presented, you revert to insults and 'cuz I said so'.

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Anyone rich enough can actually go into space. Anyone, rich or no, can look through a telescope and see these celestial bodies for themselves, of which earth is one.
.................

Anyone foolish enough (feel familiar?) can go to Hell. That is a fact, recorded in history.

I can look at a picture my kid drew of a tomato yet I cannot eat it or go into it.
To see the Earth, a person only needs to look down.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Even after all these years, still a theory. No ones been in space like you think. Newton's book, Principia, is nothing but if statements (like anything, look for original) surrounded by the idea earth is a globe.

Anyone rich enough can actually go into space. Anyone, rich or no, can look through a telescope and see these celestial bodies for themselves, of which earth is one.

No, they're just part of the problem selling the lies to get more of your money with fish eye lenses and good artistry. Here's a previous post with references, please take a look, do your research. Also, just a quick one...red bull jump, watch when he opens the door, FLAT horizon. There are a number of people who have sent up there own balloons and rockets...check it out, dare ya!!

Those references are ridiculous. One a video of yet another person trying to claim the moon landing is a hoax. This has been disproved repeatedly.
The other claiming the ISS is underwater? What a joke. Anyone with a telescope can see it in the sky, orbiting the earth due to that gravity thing.

Dimension we can't perceive? Witchcraft. Besides, doesn't exist. Trust
your own senses.

We know that we can perceive a dimension that the ant on the balloon cannot. We, outside of the ant, can clearly observe this phenomenon. Likewise those from space can see the Earth as a globe that we on the surface cannot.

We're surrounded by a wall of ice. Look into Antarctica explorers (before the
1900's, well, Op High Jump should be on your list too but don't start with that
one). A few have calculated it to be over 70,000 miles. Bring on the GPS, got
that too and not enough time. Check military bases an notice how they don't go
passed a certain latitude. Also, look at the "division of the land," makes more
sense on a flat earth. Not supposed to pull from it but the Book of Enoch tells
of venturing out the "dome" and he describes a nothingness beyond. Also gives
description of what we're in and the mechanics of it.

The bible doesn't count in any way as scientific evidence, sorry. Jules Verne is more accurate, not to mention a better writer, if you're looking at fiction.

Ha. The only thing glaring is your utter persistence to prove the Bible wrong.
Rely on your logic, fine...just, at least, do your own research. Don't rely on
the knowledge given to you by those in power. They don't care about you (too
much fluoride in your water, hope you're filtering). Look, I understand it's a
lot to take in, to believe that you've been lied to all these years and what
about...truth hurts but hell is going to hurt worse.

Let's not even get started on the whole 'hell' thing. If you look at the origin in that book you love so much it refers to 'sheol' and 'gehenna' but not hell.
'Hell' is a later invention. Seeing how xtians stole so much from pagans, one more thing seems right. Hel refers to one of the afterlife destinations in Norse paganism, and isn't a place of suffering at all. But the stories, edited by a christian (Snorri) slanted it to appear as a dark place and the death goddess Hel as a dark ruler.
But that's all off topic.

One more that opened up my eyes to this (there are so many examples), is flight durations. If the "globe" is spinning at ~1100mph (at the equator) then how is it the same amount of time traveling east or west? Commercial planes go no faster than 500mph. Traveling east, you'd never make your destination. I'll pull from red bull again, if the earth was spinning how did he land so close to his take off point? There are more holes in your theory than you realize. Again, lean on your logic, fine but at least show some signs of intelligence with it. Then, when you realize your errors, come back, take the next step in your salvation. You're already here, "playing with fire" which is really just your own salvation.

Grass is greener. Don't take my word for it though, look for yourself.

Really? You're going to try and make this argument? I guess I should have expected it. Did I not mention the gravity thing before? Anyway:

At

most latitudes, the Earth rotates eastward at a much higher speed than a
typical
jet airplane flies. So a passenger jet traveling in the same
direction as the
Earth’s rotation should never reach its destination, right?
Yet somehow it is
possible to fly east from Vancouver, British Columbia to
Toronto, Ontario—a
distance of over 3000 km—in just five hours! In fact, in
the Northern
Hemisphere, planes actually tend to fly faster when they’re
travelling in the
same direction as the Earth’s rotation. To understand why,
you also need to
understand how gravity and the jet stream come into play. -
See more at:
http://www.explorecuriocity.org/Cont....Z7VnOh7C.dpuf

The thorough explanation can be found here.

This is what happens when amateurs come out to play with the veterans..