[Thin_icE]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Look, lame brain - this is an iron:



and you spelled it wrongly.

I don't know if you noticed but this kind of comment doesn't add to the conversation, you're only making a fool out of yourself and your peers.

Find 3 errors...

This is another post that doesn't help at all, what 3 errors do you find there? Pontifícia Universidad Católica de Chile is an institution full of history (founded on 1888), it was declared Pontificial by the Pope Pius XI on 1930.
Are there any errors here too?

I’ve now looked at that pendulum thing of yours (since it seems to be utterly important to you). I checked it out on the web page you referenced.

To really believe what I saw, I made the experiment myself (using a golf ball and some twine). The height of the pendulum was ~2 m (I’m using metrics here since I know you’re a scientist). I put the thing in motion... waited… and guess what? After an hour the whole thing had stopped!

Does this mean that the spherical earth we are living on has stopped spinning? Will we all fall off now? Seriously, YOU have to do better than that.

Now you're looking childish, it's all a matter of scale, the Earth is a very large place, so you need a big pendulum to see the effect, as an analogy, you can think that if you look at an ant on the floor you cannot see its intricate details, you have to get down and look at it real close to see details as the mandibles or the antennae. The same thing happens with the Focault pendulum, it must has a minimum height and corresponding pendulum weight in order to see the the effect. This might be hard to accomplish at home, but luckily, there's a whole lot of places that have these kind of pendulums on display, so people like you can see them with your own eyes. I hope you're not put off by the wikipedia link, it's just a list, and I made you the favour of linking to the United States part.

And what laws are they? Nothing happens against God's will. If we have the internet and trains it's because God wanted us to have them. Just because you have some measurements by scientists who are clearly wrong doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean that's how things really work in the real world because some guy in a lab coat wrote down some numbers.

God loves you so much He sent His only son to die so you could be saved. And you throw silly measurements in His face. What sort of God doesn't know you are right and He is wrong? Answer: no sort of God at all because He is right and beyond your understanding.

Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

If you're able to post on the internet today, it's because scientists invented computers and the internet, you can give God all the credit you want, but the truth is that it were some atheists that came up with most part of the things that make up to your confortable living today.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Wikipedia is highly accurate on many subjects, but I'll bite, here are other sources for the things I enumerated:
Here's the biography of Eratosthenes on the University of St. Andrew, Scotland.
Oh, and in case foreign sources are not to be trusted, here's another biography from the University of Wichita.
Concerning Foucalt's pendulum, here's a page from the University of South Wales that explains very well how it works.
And here's another one from the Cleveland Museum of Natural History.
I think that will be respectable enough for you. But in any case, let me know.

I'm still waiting to learn all about what you do, Ms. "Works on Science".

Have you even graduated high school yet? Did you think we wouldn't realize you got your references from the Wikipedia reference citations?

[Thin_icE]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I'm still waiting to learn all about what you do, Ms. "Works on Science".

Have you even graduated high school yet? Did you think we wouldn't realize you got your references from the Wikipedia reference citations?

In fact I didn't, I searched them by myself on the internet, but, just to appease you, I'll post some more sources that are not cited on wikipedia. It's really not that hard, when we're talking common sense.
Is Encyclopaedia Britannica reliable enough for you? Here's Eratosthenes biography, and Focault pendulum articles there. Are these enough for you now?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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In fact I didn't, I searched them by myself on the internet, but, just to appease you, I'll post some more sources that are not cited on wikipedia. It's really not that hard, when we're talking common sense.
Is Encyclopaedia Britannica reliable enough for you? Here's Eratosthenes biography, and Focault pendulum articles there. Are these enough for you now?

What do you do, Ms. "Works on Science"?

This is the third time I've asked.

Have you graduated high school yet?

This is the third time I've asked.

[Thin_icE]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

What do you do, Ms. "Works on Science"?

This is the third time I've asked.

Have you graduated high school yet?

This is the third time I've asked.

That's not relevant to the subject being discussed, but just to humour you, I can tell you that I graduated from high school AND college. As for what I do, it's also not relevant, but I'll make it to you again and I'll tell you that I work on a research institution.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

That's not relevant to the subject being discussed, but just to humour you, I can tell you that I graduated from high school AND college. As for what I do, it's also not relevant, but I'll make it to you again and I'll tell you that I work on a research institution.

Of course it's relevant. You opened with your credential, "someone who works on science".

Why not just admit you're just another Google scholar?

[Lords Sheep]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Well you say the earth is flat and gravity is made up. The internet uses satellites in some instances to get the data where its going. Satellites orbit the earth. The reason they orbit the earth is gravity caused by the spinning of a round earth. And they orbit a round earth. Satelittes would not be possible if in fact the world was flat and gravity didnt exist. The internet is here because of science not god. Science has done more for mankind in the past 200 years then your religion has done in 2000. I agree science isnt science because a man in a lab coat wrote it down. Science is science because it works airplanes fly gps maps your geological location ect. Its tested and proven andbopen to criticism. In fact it encourages critism. But when theres critism you need proof. We have proved the earth is round. With not writings but airplanes, boats, manned missioms to space its all there. You say science isnt science because some scienctist wrote something down. Well I say the truth is not the truth because some man wrote a book thousands of years ago. Again where is the edge please tell me where its located? Im dying to know where is the edge? You dont know because it doesnt exist.

[Thin_icE]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Of course it's relevant. You opened with your credential, "someone who works on science".

Why not just admit you're just another Google scholar?

If it makes you feel any better, discard that affirmation, I know what I studied and what I do, that's good enough for me, the rest I'm presenting to you is hard evidence, facts that have been known for decades (or centuries even), and that are of easy access to anyone.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

In fact it encourages critism.

Have you ever seen the movie, "Expelled"? It addresses just this fallacy.

[Lords Sheep]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Wheres the edge?

[Thin_icE]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Have you ever seen the movie, "Expelled"? It addresses just this fallacy.

That movie is a fallacy in itself, making a "documentary" on why people are ridiculed while trying to replace a well known, tested and proved theory with something made up, with no observational proof, no rigor and nothing except "God made it".

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Wheres the edge?

Friend, this thread has more than 8500 posts, many of which address this very question. Please do read before asking questions. I know these questions may be new to you, but if we repeat the same information over and over, that wastes everyone's time and makes for a very boring conversation. Kindly be courteous to others who come here as well.

[John North]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Another thing, why is it that two sticks with the exact length and positioned in the very same way in different places on Earth cast a different shadow?

Now for the shadows and the wooden sticks.

I you put the two sticks apart and put a light source in between – could even be the sun that revolves above the earth – one of the sticks will throw a shadow to the left and the other to the right (more or less, it depends on the exact location of the light source). Even if the light source is far away, giving you the impression that the sticks could be treated equally with regards to how the light hits them, there is actually a tiny difference. Since the refractive index of wood is enormous, the ever so little difference in angel between the light source and each stick may cause a big difference in the angle of the shadows

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

That movie is a fallacy in itself, making a "documentary" on why people are ridiculed while trying to replace a well known, tested and proved theory with something made up, with no observational proof, no rigor and nothing except "God made it".

So you haven't seen the movie, but you're going to criticize it. This isn't a matter of a theory being "made up, with no observational proof, no rigor and nothing except 'God made it.'" This is a matter of fact and evidence being suppressed because it does not appease the God of Secularism.

[Thin_icE]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Now for the shadows and the wooden sticks.

I you put the two sticks apart and put a light source in between – could even be the sun that revolves above the earth – one of the sticks will throw a shadow to the left and the other to the right (more or less, it depends on the exact location of the light source). Even if the light source is far away, giving you the impression that the sticks could be treated equally with regards to how the light hits them, there is actually a tiny difference. Since the refractive index of wood is enormous, the ever so little difference in angel between the light source and each stick may cause a big difference in the angle of the shadows

You're very wrong, and I'll tell you why. First, we're not talking about putting a light source in between two sticks, we're talking about a light source far away from the sticks, as the Sun (which, by the way, doesn't revolve above the Earth, it's the Earth that revolves around the Sun) is far, far away (and it's way much bigger than the Earth), it's safe to assume that when the light rays arrive Earth, they're perpendicular to the surface, if the Earth was flat, every shadow should have the same angle, but not on a round Earth.
By the way, could you provide a source for the "enormous refractive index of wood"? Although it doesn't really matter, because sticks are just an example, you can do the same experiment with buildings, people or whatever you want, that's the beauty of science, the results are always coherent.