[LW1997 (On Moderation)]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Most truly born again believers still don't believe it, but it is true. Well, they will know it when they're raptured.
Here some videos of brother Jason Jack of Montgomery, Alabama:

As well as sister Teal Summers:

And brother Hans Steijnhagen from the Netherlands:

Plus brother Detlef Daddowitz who's German like me:

It's very clear that the earth is flat, round and Antarctica is the border. That's also the reason no planes fly over Antarctica.

[Bezukhov]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I'm sorry, I'm not a Flat Earther. For the simple reason that if the world was flat then cats would have pushed everything off edge by now if it was.

[Evilutionist Clive]

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I'm sorry, I'm not a Flat Earther. For the simple reason that if the world was flat then cats would have pushed everything off edge by now if it was.

The earth isn't flat. This theory has been debunked so many times.

1- Lots of images of a spherical Earth from the SPace. International Space Station, Hubble Telescope, and many others. They call our planet the PALE BLUE DOT for a reason.


2- When I fly from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, what I see on the Navigation screen is Roughly 7000 miles/11367 kilometres for a 14 hourtrip. Which is definitely what it takes. This is only possible in a spherical Earth.


Otherwise if the Earth were flat, the airplane would have to fly 26,000 km for a trip from Sydney to Santiago. Damn right impossible unless you flew the Atlantic route. All airplanes that connect Asia/Australia to Latin America or the West Coast of the US fly the Pacific route.

Just compare the pics of a hypothetical flat earth with an ACTUAL SPHERICAL EARTH, high time that all of you learn the truth.





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[Dr Laurence Niles]

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The earth isn't flat. This theory has been debunked so many times.

1- Lots of images of a spherical Earth from the SPace. International Space Station, Hubble Telescope, and many others. They call our planet the PALE BLUE DOT for a reason.


2- When I fly from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, what I see on the Navigation screen is Roughly 7000 miles/11367 kilometres for a 14 hourtrip. Which is definitely what it takes. This is only possible in a spherical Earth.


Otherwise if the Earth were flat, the airplane would have to fly 26,000 km for a trip from Sydney to Santiago. Damn right impossible unless you flew the Atlantic route. All airplanes that connect Asia/Australia to Latin America or the West Coast of the US fly the Pacific route.

Just compare the pics of a hypothetical flat earth with an ACTUAL SPHERICAL EARTH, high time that all of you learn the truth.







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Hello, Clive.

I will show you what I have found within the last couple of months.
This will once and for all prove to you that the earth is flat.

1. Flight paths

Abu Dhabi to Texas flight path

This graphic shows the path of a flight from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates to Fort Worth, Texas, USA. The top graphic shows how the flight appears as it is tracked on a globe map. The bottom graphic shows how the flight path would look on a flat earth map. As you can see, the flight path on the ball earth map appears to take a strange northern loop and pass unnecessarily over land in the high northern latitudes. Why not just go in a straight line? On the flat earth map, however, the flight path going over land in the northern latitudes makes perfect sense, as it is a straight line from point A to point B.

If Earth was a ball, and Antarctica was too cold to fly over, the only logical way to fly from Sydney to Santiago would be a straight shot over the Pacific staying in the Southern hemisphere the entire way. Re-fueling could be done in New Zealand or other Southern hemisphere destinations along the way if absolutely necessary. In actual fact, however, Santiago-Sydney flights go into the Northern hemisphere making stop-overs at LAX and other North American airports before continuing back down to the Southern hemisphere. Such ridiculously wayward detours make no sense on the globe but make perfect sense and form nearly straight lines when shown on a flat Earth map.”.

“On a ball-Earth, Johannesburg, South Africa to Perth, Australia should be a straight shot over the Indian Ocean with convenient re-fueling possibilities on Mauritus or Madagascar. In actual practice, however, most Johannesburg to Perth flights curiously stop over either in Dubai, Hong Kong or Malaysia all of which make no sense on the ball, but are completely understandable when mapped on a flat Earth.”—Ibid

“On a ball-Earth Johannesburg, South Africa to Sao Paolo, Brazil should be a quick straight shot along the 25th Southern latitude, but instead nearly every flight makes a re- fueling stop at the 50th degree North latitude in London first! The only reason such a ridiculous stop-over works in reality is because the Earth is flat.” ~ Ibid

According to the Federal Aviation Association, no air flights have gone the much shorter routes over the Arctic and Antarctic due to cold weather effecting flights as well as having to effect rescue over such inhabited areas (what about the oceans?!). Another reason that is given is that airlines would be required to carry special survival equipment (jackets, boots?), even though thousands of hours of flight time and fuel consumption would be saved by going direct instead of Westward and Eastward directions.

“If Earth was a ball there are several flights in the Southern hemisphere which would have their quickest, straightest path over the Antarctic continent such as Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia. Instead of taking the shortest, quickest route in a straight line over Antarctica, all such flights detour all manner of directions away from Antarctica instead claiming the temperatures too cold for airplane travel! Considering the fact that there are plenty of flights to/from/over Antarctica, and NASA claims to have technology keeping them in conditions far colder (and far hotter) than any experienced on Earth, such an excuse is clearly just an excuse, and these flights aren’t made because they are impossible.”

2. Emergency landings

3. Commercial airplane crashes

4. The moon landing hoax

There is mountains of evidence that we never went to the moon. And that it has been filmed in Hollywood. I will not go any further into this one, but if you still believe in fairytales then you could start with this documentary.

5. The ISS hoax

Just like the moon landings. The "ISS" is filmed in Hollywood. It is a Freemason conspiracy.

6. There is no "space"

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

A piece of the firmament has been found.

So there you go: proof, if proof be need be.

YIC

[Evilutionist Clive]

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Hello, Clive.

I will show you what I have found within the last couple of months.
This will once and for all prove to you that the earth is flat.

1. Flight paths

Abu Dhabi to Texas flight path

This graphic shows the path of a flight from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates to Fort Worth, Texas, USA. The top graphic shows how the flight appears as it is tracked on a globe map. TOO LONG _ INCORRECT EVIDENCE = WORTH DELETING
YIC

What a streaming pile of BS. And you call yourself a PhD?


For the record, you did not provide any "graphic" showing the path of a flight from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates to Fort Worth, Texas, USA.


In comparison, I have provided you pictorial evidence of a real flight path from Sydney to Santiago. You can check it on Google if you don't believe me.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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What a streaming pile of BS. And you call yourself a PhD?


For the record, you did not provide any "graphic" showing the path of a flight from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates to Fort Worth, Texas, USA.


In comparison, I have provided you pictorial evidence of a real flight path from Sydney to Santiago. You can check it on Google if you don't believe me.

I did a YouTube search and found the exact opposite to your hypothesis.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l3CFgUraHxg

But you must understand that even if the evidence did support a round Earth the Bible(KJV1611) contradicts it.

Think about it from the Christian perspective (I mean try to imagine what it is like inside my head). If I only believed in the parts of the Bible(KJV1611) I personally liked I may as well not be a Christian at all.

I could just pick the easy parts to believe and I certainly wouldn’t have done my thesis on conversion therapy and spent the best part of four years helping people stop being gay but my faith demands it.

You see, being a Christian is not easy. When I was first Saved it cost me my marriage, many many friends of the gaywise lifestyle choice, my job and promotion prospects but I find the dark quiet hours spent alone in the dark in my prayer closet alone praying in the dark are more than worth it.

Doesn’t that sound better than not believing in Him?

YIC

[Evilutionist Clive]

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I did a YouTube search and found the exact opposite to your hypothesis.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l3CFgUraHxg

Is this the best "evidence" you got? A fake YouTube video created by conspiracists for shit and giggles. Just read through the comments section and there's everything one needs to know about your evidence.

But you must understand that even if the evidence did support a round Earth the Bible(KJV1611) contradicts it.

There. Whatever effort you put together to search that piece of evidence is negated by this non-sequitur. I did say that I am an atheist. I would require more the Bible to be persuaded. Never mind.

Think about it from the Christian perspective (I mean try to imagine what it is like inside my head). If I only believed in the parts of the Bible(KJV1611) I personally liked I may as well not be a Christian at all.

I could just pick the easy parts to believe and I certainly wouldn’t have done my thesis on conversion therapy and spent the best part of four years helping people stop being gay but my faith demands it.

You see, being a Christian is not easy. When I was first Saved it cost me my marriage, many many friends of the gaywise lifestyle choice, my job and promotion prospects but I find the dark quiet hours spent alone in the dark in my prayer closet alone praying in the dark are more than worth it.

Doesn’t that sound better than not believing in Him?

Look I sympathise with you for your unsavoury past experiences. Maybe you need religion as a crutch to get through this crisis period. But you see that's what it really is = a CRUTCH.


I choose not to depend on that sort of mumbo-jumbo.


There. Now you understand my point of view.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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There. Now you understand my point of view.

If you cannot be convinced, why come here in the first place? Have you read the Bible(JKV1611)?

You see, before I was Saved was a clinical psychologist. And like any position predicated on a doctoral program it requires a high degree of academic understanding epistemology. And I have read the Bible(KJV1611).

That’s what I bring to the debate table. What do you bring: wiki?

YIC

[Pamela Smith]

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This will be great for my son's homeschooling, I'm so glad I didn't take him to some Liberal-brainwashed public school so that he can be fed with anti-God lies.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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I really believe that our Earth is really flat and not a globe like the world leads us to believe and need others thoughts on this as well.

In Genesus 1:6-9 we read (lets look at the word firmament and what it's really saying) and in verses 14,15,17 it's talking about the sun and moon and stars

6,And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7,And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8,And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day
9,And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry landappear: and it was so.
14,And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15,And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
17,And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

There also been documentaries on earth being measured and found not to be round/globe as the world wants us to believe.

This seems a pretty clear cut slam dunk smoking gun in the face of Atheist scientician nonsense.

YIC

[FreeFromBrains]

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Trust me, it's round. We've known that for about 2500 years, and we've had very accurate measurements of its curvature for about 300 years. We also have pictures of the Earth from space. And we've sent multiple expeditions to Antarctica, and there's no "edge" there.

Also, there's no other way of explaining the stars of the Southern Hemisphere; the midnight sun in Antarctica; and the time it takes to fly between different Southern Hemisphere countries.

[Thinks Design]

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Here is my question: why do you look for natural truth in a book that is meant to give us spiritual truths? The bible is not a science book. God gave us eyes, ears, mouths, hands, brain and whatnot to perceive the world and the command the subdue it (Genesis 1:28). We have the capability to observe and study nature ourselves. What we can not is perceive God and spiritual matters, which is why God granted us revelations of things He deemed necessary for us to know.

Thinks Design

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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Trust me, it's round. We've known that for about 2500 years, and we've had very accurate measurements of its curvature for about 300 years. We also have pictures of the Earth from space. And we've sent multiple expeditions to Antarctica, and there's no "edge" there.

Also, there's no other way of explaining the stars of the Southern Hemisphere; the midnight sun in Antarctica; and the time it takes to fly between different Southern Hemisphere countries.

Put it this way. If we've known the Earth has been flat for 2500 years as you’ve stated, we've done a really poor job of measuring the curvature.

The only proof of curvature we have are some fake photos from NASA which are demonstrably false, and all the text books parroting what "we've known for so long", without real proof.

If you read Genesis , you can clearly see God made TWO great lights, the Sun and Moon, not trillion suns and trillion moons in trillion galaxies.

Also he made DOME over earth.

The Earth could have very little curve but it is indeed in circle shape and flat overall.

Globe believer will not take the evidence even though you try to show them so don't bother about them. Most of them are suffering from homersexualism or beating wife syndrome.

You see when a wife who rejects Jesus is beaten by a non-Christian husband she is lying to herself that her husband loves (unlike the wife of a Christian who should rejoice in a manly man who engages in Christian Domestic Discipline) her and won't divorce him because of children and because of her imaginary perfect family live she was always dreaming of (a Christian woman would work hard to identify WHY she is being beaten and take steps to modify her behaviour to preserve the marriage- not for her sake but out of devotion to what Jesus wants).

But if she had divorced her husband she would completly ruin her dreams of having nice family so she would rather pretend nothing is happening and would put on black sunglasses so other people don't see her beaten face rather than telling truth and seeking help from police and friends .

Likewise globe believers invested 12-15 years of study in schools and their degrees, not only the time invested but 98% of graduates are in debt or homersexualised into secular submission. They would not be able to look in thier own face in mirror when they saw that they have been lied by schools for such long time and are deep in debt because they were scammed or anally subjugated.

They would rather keep believing lie than get the truth because they would become suicidal and depressed. Some go to the extreme that they believe there is car in space right now . It's like 260 celcius that close to the sun as it wizzes around us, up there.

That's why you can see evidence or do tests yourself (read the whole tread to see proof) but even if you show the results to globe believer they will deny it and call you uneducated fool invoking some magic force of gravity which is clearly not working due to lack of 98% of energy if it even existed.

YIC

[FreeFromBrains]

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Gravity Denial?

Okay, now I've heard everything.

[FatZ2018]

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Experiment 1) Inertia - the reason we dont move when we jump in the air is because our bodies are moving relatively to the earth. Using your same experiment if you are on a plane that is at cruising speed and altitude and you stand up and jump you dont end up at the back of the plane.

Experiment 2) Mass - while the balloon is much bigger it doesnt have enough mass to produce a gravitational pull on the price of paper. There are different ranges of gravity do to different conditions on different planets.


Experiment 3) Vantage point while yes you can see more you cant see any farther and this also disproves flat earth as if you take off at night and the sun is supposedly only 500 miles above the earth. If the earth were flat and you are in a plane 30000 ft above the earth you would be able to see the sun and moon at both time and it would be obvious that the circle the earth parallel to each other.