[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

http://www.worth1000.com/ <---- Pictures are proof, LOL~

Yeah, I don't click links from unsaved Trash, you guys like to give us viruses.

Secondly, Scriptures are quotes from MAN,not god nor jesus, who once again would not understand the truth god has designed for us.

Say's the person who can't be bothered to capitalize God or Jesus. So I guess you're the only one who truly understands God? Do you only see him when you smoke crack? I'm sure you can find a soap box somewhere that you can stand on and rant about Jesus talking to you all you want. Here we obey the Lord God and the KJV1611

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Psalm 100:5 For the LORD is good, his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

1st Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you

You sir, just got served.

And you kiddo are an idiot.

[GURRENLAGANN]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I'm sorry, i find it hard to listen to people who are going to hell.

Secondly, what makes you think i believe in god? did i say that anywhere? I just believed you'd judge someone who didn't believe. Looks like i was right. Pre-judging and prejudice - another sin, more hell for you.

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times

. - it took him seven tries to purify it? scientists can purify silver in once or twice. Scientists > God.

Psalm 100:5 For the LORD is good, his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations

Yes...and?

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

...So heaven will go away, but Matthew won't? Sounds horribly blasphemous.

1st Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you

Blah blah~

[GURRENLAGANN]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I was posted here via a link from you laugh you lose. I laughed hard. But you're the real losers. believing this stuff. I cannot possibly understand how you can be helped or saved. If you'd like to live in the dark ages, that's fine,(Weren't computers the devil? ZOMG MORE HELL! you must be on the ninth level by now). but i'm living in the real world. The world you'd probably call Eden, Free and happy. You're full of lies, f4k3 beliefs and f4k3 hope.

You will die a very unwise person. Is this what you want?

[Mrs. Rogers]

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Pre-judging and prejudice - another sin, more hell for you.

Not at all. For you to read.

[GURRENLAGANN]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I'm sorry to come across as wilfully vexatious, but that's just how i am. And no, i won't be clicking the link. I'm good thanks. Written source on the internet, pictures, without a proper citation or reference are about as valid as wikipedia wherein anyone can edit it.

Everyone signed to this website and those that wholeheartedly believe everything written here, doesn't understand true Christianity. When did it Christianity become so bitter and feel the need to slander the truth, it used to be about the praise of god, not the condemnation of others. Where are your roots? your true Christian spirit?

[GOD=life]

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I'm sorry, i find it hard to listen to people who I wrongly think based on no substance whatsoever are going to hell.

And yet, we have no trouble talking to you, trying to convince you to come to Heaven with us. That's the difference between you and a True Christian™.

Secondly, what makes you think i believe in god?

Are you honestly trying to blame us for making a positive assumption about you? You are a very hateful individual, friend.

I was posted here via a link from you laugh you lose. I laughed hard. But you're the real losers. believing this stuff. I cannot possibly understand how you can be helped or saved.

How does it make you feel to act superior to people who are only trying to help you?

Weren't computers the devil?

No, computers and the internet were invented by Christians to help spread God's Word. It's the same reason the printing press got invented. But hey, no need to thank us or anything...

[GURRENLAGANN]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

And yet, we have no trouble talking to you, trying to convince you to come to Heaven with us. That's the difference between you and a True Christian™.

A differance i will strongly hold onto with every fibre of my being. You won't be going to heaven with these beliefs, if such a place exists.

Are you honestly trying to blame us for making a positive assumption about you? You are a very hateful individual, friend.

It is not a positive assumption, it is a rude prejudiced assumption, You are the hateful one for suggesting such a thing, the use of an insult within a thinly disguised veil of politeness only suggests that you are attempting to infuriate me, i would like to add that every post made so far in response to mine has only been met with laughter. I am having an amusing sunday.

How does it make you feel to act superior to people who are only trying to help you?

I'm trying to help you, you're deluded.

No, computers and the internet were invented by Christians to help spread God's Word. It's the same reason the printing press got invented. But hey, no need to thank us or anything...

The internet and computers were not made by one person nor a singular religion or belief, seeing that the internet is everywhere in the world, it's not all holed up somewhere. It's a link to every computer world-wide, you could actually say that the internet was created by all religions. Maybe you should go thank the islams, muslims, buddhists, taoists too, your suggestion that i should thank you is laughable. I did indeed laugh. Hah.

[GURRENLAGANN]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

After the suggestion in one of this site’s comments stating that it required more faith to be an atheist than a theist, because the non-existence of a deity can never be proven, I thought it would be fun to see if we can logically disprove the existence of “God”. I picked the Christian God because I am more familiar with the Christian faith than any other, I’ve read the bible and have previously lived with devout Christians. I feel qualified. So let’s see where this goes…

For this to work, we have to agree on the following two statements, and accept that Christians believe them to the true: -

God is infallible
The Bible is the true word of God
These aren’t outrageous statements, and in fact, have been echoed on this very blog numerous times in the comments.

The two statements above are clearly interdependent. The Bible tells Christians that God is infallible, and Christians believe the Bible because they believe it was written by an infallible deity. Almost a self-fulfilling prophecy, almost. So the start of our logical deduction must be the Bible, so let’s concentrate on that.

Let’s take the Christian God’s greatest act, creating the world and all who live on it (indirectly). The start of all this, on God’s own words: “For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day”. Using genealogy, we can roughly estimate the age of the earth, as stated by the Bible, to be 6500 years. The very top estimate would be close to 10,000 years, but that’s a stretch. Science has proven that the earth is closer to 4.5 billion years old. Radiometric dating has shown us this, and has remained consistent with lunar and terrestrial samples. In other words, we haven’t just tested this once in one situation, it’s been extensively tested. This isn’t a guess, or a hunch, there’s a substantial amount of evidence to back this up.

And that’s the geological age of the earth. What about the creatures on the earth? We, as human beings, were created 6500 years ago, according to the Bible, starting with Adam and then Eve. The oldest discovered human fossil is approximately 1,300,000 (1.3 million) years old. That would have meant that humans lived on earth before God created either humans or the earth. In fact, depending on how much evidence you consider to be acceptable, and how you define us as a species, you could place humans at between 1.8 million and 130,000 years old. No one could sensibly claim that humans are less than 130,000 years old. There is simply too much evidence available for our inspection. Either way, much older than the Bible’s claims.

Let’s take another example. God decided that the earth needed cleansing, so he instructed Noah to gather up two of ever species to save. Everything other than Noah, his family (or part of his family) and the animals he chose to save would be killed. There are around 10 MILLION known species of animal on our planet. Male and female, that would be 20 million animals Noah saved. I’ve never seen a boat that big, even with modern engineering techniques. Noah also would have had to travel to different parts of the earth to collect the various animals. You rarely see a penguin and a scorpion living in the same location (zoos don’t count). He then, after the waters had receded, would have had to return them to their original locations. You also have to question to environment on board Noah’s Ark, an environment that could sustain animals that require intense heat and animals that require intense cold, as well as Noah and his family that required a more moderate climate. Impossible.

Just so we’re clear, I’m establishing that that the Bible is inaccurate. Not just inaccurate, but massively inaccurate. There are more examples of course, some which make it clear that the author of the Bible thinks the world is flat, some which make it clear that the author thought the world did not move and then there are more considered examples, such as the value of pi being unknown at the time (surely God would have known it!?!).

So this is my statement, logically derived from the above.

“The Bible is inaccurate – therefore God is fallible – therefore the definition of God is incorrect – therefore God does not exist.”

To add a touch of justification to this, let’s break it down. We know the Bible is inaccurate, in fact the Bible is contradictory within its own pages. The Bible is the only place that defines God, and God is defined as being infallible. The Bible is also stated as being of God’s word (albeit written by man, see below). Seeing as we know the only source that defines the Christian God is inaccurate, and at least part of the definition is inaccurate (infallible), we can not trust the remainder of the definition. Therefore the definition of God in invalid and God does not exist.

There will come arguments from Christians that while God is infallible, and the Bible is the true word of God, the Bible was in fact written by man, who is fallible. This does not hold up when you examine the scale and volume of inaccuracies held within the Bible. I can understand man rounding down the value of pi, for example, but to get the entire creation story wrong is a bit of a stretch. Likewise, given that God is all powerful, he surely would not have left an obviously inaccurate account of his greatest work go to press, or was that just another sign of his fallibility?

I think I’ve made a stronger argument, based on Christian beliefs, for the non existence of God than there ever has been for the existence of such a deity

[Brother Temperance]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

P.S If the earth is flat. Where are the edges? i've traveled the world. All over. there is NO country i have not been too. there is no water i have not crossed. I have seen the world, there are no edges.

How old are you? How long did this all take?

Everyone signed to this website and those that wholeheartedly believe everything written here, doesn't understand true Christianity. When did it Christianity become so bitter and feel the need to slander the truth, it used to be about the praise of god, not the condemnation of others. Where are your roots? your true Christian spirit?

Our roots are in the word of God. What do you base your understanding of Christianity on?

A differance i will strongly hold onto with every fibre of my being. You won't be going to heaven with these beliefs, if such a place exists.

What do you think is required to get into Heaven?

The internet and computers were not made by one person nor a singular religion or belief, seeing that the internet is everywhere in the world, it's not all holed up somewhere. It's a link to every computer world-wide, you could actually say that the internet was created by all religions. Maybe you should go thank the islams, muslims, buddhists, taoists too, your suggestion that i should thank you is laughable. I did indeed laugh. Hah.

By your logic, lightbulbs are all over the world, therefore Edison can't have had anything to do with inventing them. Do you understand the difference between inventing something and using it?

After the suggestion in one of this site’s comments stating that it required more faith to be an atheist than a theist, because the non-existence of a deity can never be proven, I thought it would be fun to see if we can logically disprove the existence of “God”. I picked the Christian God because I am more familiar with the Christian faith than any other, I’ve read the bible and have previously lived with devout Christians. I feel qualified. So let’s see where this goes…

For this to work, we have to agree on the following two statements, and accept that Christians believe them to the true: -

God is infallible
The Bible is the true word of God
These aren’t outrageous statements, and in fact, have been echoed on this very blog numerous times in the comments.

The two statements above are clearly interdependent. The Bible tells Christians that God is infallible, and Christians believe the Bible because they believe it was written by an infallible deity. Almost a self-fulfilling prophecy, almost. So the start of our logical deduction must be the Bible, so let’s concentrate on that.

Let’s take the Christian God’s greatest act, creating the world and all who live on it (indirectly). The start of all this, on God’s own words: “For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day”. Using genealogy, we can roughly estimate the age of the earth, as stated by the Bible, to be 6500 years. The very top estimate would be close to 10,000 years, but that’s a stretch. Science has proven that the earth is closer to 4.5 billion years old. Radiometric dating has shown us this, and has remained consistent with lunar and terrestrial samples. In other words, we haven’t just tested this once in one situation, it’s been extensively tested. This isn’t a guess, or a hunch, there’s a substantial amount of evidence to back this up.

And that’s the geological age of the earth. What about the creatures on the earth? We, as human beings, were created 6500 years ago, according to the Bible, starting with Adam and then Eve. The oldest discovered human fossil is approximately 1,300,000 (1.3 million) years old. That would have meant that humans lived on earth before God created either humans or the earth. In fact, depending on how much evidence you consider to be acceptable, and how you define us as a species, you could place humans at between 1.8 million and 130,000 years old. No one could sensibly claim that humans are less than 130,000 years old. There is simply too much evidence available for our inspection. Either way, much older than the Bible’s claims.

Let’s take another example. God decided that the earth needed cleansing, so he instructed Noah to gather up two of ever species to save. Everything other than Noah, his family (or part of his family) and the animals he chose to save would be killed. There are around 10 MILLION known species of animal on our planet. Male and female, that would be 20 million animals Noah saved. I’ve never seen a boat that big, even with modern engineering techniques. Noah also would have had to travel to different parts of the earth to collect the various animals. You rarely see a penguin and a scorpion living in the same location (zoos don’t count). He then, after the waters had receded, would have had to return them to their original locations. You also have to question to environment on board Noah’s Ark, an environment that could sustain animals that require intense heat and animals that require intense cold, as well as Noah and his family that required a more moderate climate. Impossible.

Just so we’re clear, I’m establishing that that the Bible is inaccurate. Not just inaccurate, but massively inaccurate. There are more examples of course, some which make it clear that the author of the Bible thinks the world is flat, some which make it clear that the author thought the world did not move and then there are more considered examples, such as the value of pi being unknown at the time (surely God would have known it!?!).

So this is my statement, logically derived from the above.

“The Bible is inaccurate – therefore God is fallible – therefore the definition of God is incorrect – therefore God does not exist.”

To add a touch of justification to this, let’s break it down. We know the Bible is inaccurate, in fact the Bible is contradictory within its own pages. The Bible is the only place that defines God, and God is defined as being infallible. The Bible is also stated as being of God’s word (albeit written by man, see below). Seeing as we know the only source that defines the Christian God is inaccurate, and at least part of the definition is inaccurate (infallible), we can not trust the remainder of the definition. Therefore the definition of God in invalid and God does not exist.

There will come arguments from Christians that while God is infallible, and the Bible is the true word of God, the Bible was in fact written by man, who is fallible. This does not hold up when you examine the scale and volume of inaccuracies held within the Bible. I can understand man rounding down the value of pi, for example, but to get the entire creation story wrong is a bit of a stretch. Likewise, given that God is all powerful, he surely would not have left an obviously inaccurate account of his greatest work go to press, or was that just another sign of his fallibility?

I think I’ve made a stronger argument, based on Christian beliefs, for the non existence of God than there ever has been for the existence of such a deity

If we accepted secular evidence, then yes our beliefs would be utterly implausible. But the Bible was written by God and is therefore infallible, therefore the earth is less than 7000 years old and pi is exactly three. That means God's still real. Checkmate!

[GURRENLAGANN]

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God isn't real. jesus was not the son of god.

The bible was not written by god, but man.

You are not a christian, your beliefs do not follow christian ethics or morales.

P.S More infractions please, they make my day <3

[Levi Jones]

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God isn't real. jesus was not the son of god.

You are not a christian, your beliefs do not follow christian ethics or morales.

You call Christianity a lie in one breath, and then proceed to tell us we don't know what Christianity is truly about in another.

Which is it? Jesus is telling me you came here for Salvation!

P.S More infractions please, they make my day <3

I'm fairly sure you will enjoy the last one I gave you.

[GURRENLAGANN]

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Yo RUDE WORDS. Why am i not banned yet?

God is a two-faced donkey RUDE WORD figment of someone's imagination from many years ago, conjured up to save from your impending death and the truth there is nothing after death. You're going to die. and go nowhere.

[Warner S. Davidson]

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Let’s take another example. God decided that the earth needed cleansing, so he instructed Noah to gather up two of ever species to save. Everything other than Noah, his family (or part of his family) and the animals he chose to save would be killed. There are around 10 MILLION known species of animal on our planet. Male and female, that would be 20 million animals Noah saved. I’ve never seen a boat that big, even with modern engineering techniques. Noah also would have had to travel to different parts of the earth to collect the various animals. You rarely see a penguin and a scorpion living in the same location (zoos don’t count). He then, after the waters had receded, would have had to return them to their original locations. You also have to question to environment on board Noah’s Ark, an environment that could sustain animals that require intense heat and animals that require intense cold, as well as Noah and his family that required a more moderate climate. Impossible.

Atheists really do makes fools of themselves quite easily - Self important fools

I read you ramblings and this particular piece of nonsense has had me splitting my sides with laughter at you naivety

Gods almighty being, power and presence created the entire world and every single living and inanimate object in it.

Mindful of this I would suggest to you that it would not be too great of a task for him to contibute some devine intervetion in helping Noah build the Ark and make it a suitable vessel in which to accomodate all living beings

In summary if God can create the Earth in seven days I woulds suspect that the Ark may have taken all but an hour or so to complete

Praise Jesus

[Mrs. Rogers]

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Yo Bitches. Why am i not banned yet?

God is a two-faced donkey Fųcking figment of someone's imagination from many years ago, conjured up to save from your impending death and the truth there is nothing after death. You're going to die. and go nowhere.

You atheists are horrific -- hating GOD so much that you don't believe He exists. For shame!

[GURRENLAGANN]

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Athiests? where? I'm not an Athiest Although it is hard to hate something that doesn't exist, i'd say people like you contribute to the hating of a fictional character.

If the bible proves that god exists.

Then the lord of the rings proves Gandalf exists.