[michael the hater]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

Hmmm, isn't a singularity a black hole? And wouldn't a black hole that had the entire universe in it be the biggest possible black hole? And don't scientists say nothing, not even light can escape a black hole? So how did the universe get out of that huge black hole smartypants? Hmm? Or are we still in it?

Gotcha!

a blackhole can be a singularity but a singularity doesnt have to be a blackhole. and (before it was witnessed) scientists believed that nothing could escape a blackhole... until they saw a hyper-nova. this is when a star is in its final days and goes super nova. however because of the size of the star it collapses in on itself creating a blackhole. the blackhole then proceeds to "eat" what it can of the explosion but actually "eats" to much and you can see energy escaping the blackhole from either end of it. you got nothing.

You're so gullible you'll believe anything a lab assistant with a joke science degree wants you to believe. If the earth was created by a big bang, why does it not say this in the Bible?

and your gullible enough to believe a book that has no backing..... i understand the similarities between God creating the universe and the big bang but saying we're gullible for believeing a scientist.... why should i believe you? oh wait i know the answer to this... its in the bible and the bible is truth.... well from our perspective science holds truth....

who to believe? i wonder....

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

a blackhole can be a singularity but a singularity doesnt have to be a blackhole. and (before it was witnessed) scientists believed that nothing could escape a blackhole... until they saw a hyper-nova. this is when a star is in its final days and goes super nova. however because of the size of the star it collapses in on itself creating a blackhole. the blackhole then proceeds to "eat" what it can of the explosion but actually "eats" to much and you can see energy escaping the blackhole from either end of it. you got nothing.

How likely is that? Who's going to believe that? Can your scientists prove any of it? It's like Startrek, it's all in the fevered imagination of atheists, stressed because their world is falling apart!

and your gullible enough to believe a book that has no backing..... i understand the similarities between God creating the universe and the big bang but saying we're gullible for believeing a scientist.... why should i believe you? oh wait i know the answer to this... its in the bible and the bible is truth.... well from our perspective science holds truth....

who to believe? i wonder....

Year 0 - everyone knows the earth is the center of the universe
Somewhere in 15th century - Christians know the earth is stationary at the center of the universe; Galileo (a scientist) says it's not.
A bit later - Christians know the earth is is stationary at the center of the universe; scientists say the earth revolves in a circle
A bit later - Christians know the earth is stationary at the center of the universe; scientists say the earth revolves in an ellipse
A bit later - Christians know the earth is stationary at the center of the universe; scientists say the earth follows a straight path in the time space continuum.

1. Isn't the first explanation the most likely to be true?
2. Have you heard of Occam's Razor?
3. Why do scientists keep changing their mind?

Son, all I can say is Follow Jesus, not the vagaries of science so-called.

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1 Timothy 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

[michael the hater]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

How likely is that? Who's going to believe that? Can your scientists prove any of it? It's like Startrek, it's all in the fevered imagination of atheists, stressed because their world is falling apart!

and can you prove any of your faith? no you cannot because it exactly that. just faith. faith proves nothing. faith proves you believe in something in its entireity. that doesnt mean its true.

i'll edit these for you shall i?

Year 0 - no one even knows whats going on or even what/who/where they are.
Somewhere in 15th century - Christians believe the earth is stationary at the center of the universe; Galileo says it's not.
A bit later - Christians believe the earth is is stationary at the center of the universe; scientists believe the earth revolves in a circle
A bit later - Christians believe the earth is stationary at the center of the universe; scientists believe the earth revolves in an ellipse
A bit later - Christians believe the earth is stationary at the center of the universe; scientists believe the earth follows a straight path in the time space continuum. (what has this got to do with the earths placement in the universe? that statement doesnt mean the earth travels in a straight line through the universe. it is a generic statement that can be applied to anyone or thing in the entireity of the universe. you yourself travel through the space time continuum in a "straight" line. that doesnt mean your always walking forwards. )



1. Isn't the first explanation the most likely to be true?
not always.

2. Have you heard of Occam's Razor?
yes. often the simplest explanation is the right one. so your idea of an all powerful being came from nothing to create something from nothing to make us? thats not that simple if you go into the complexities of it all. in fact the big bang theory is probably easier!

3. Why do scientists keep changing their mind?
because its a learning curve. you dont just wake up one morning and know everything!

Son, all I can say is Follow Jesus, not the vagaries of science so-called.

and i'll say please open your mind instead of hanging onto a single lifeline. i'm not saying stop believing. by all means continue to do that i have nothing against people who have faith.

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[Nobar King]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

Please figure out how to write with quotes. Your text IS NOT QUOTED and should be OUTSIDE the quote box.

[michael the hater]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

please dont complain about how i use your forums quote function. i remember a time you begged me to use it, now i'm using it wrong. what next? haha!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

and your gullible enough to believe a book that has no backing

The Bible does too have backing. It has all the backing a book can get: the backing of the Word of God©!

2 Timothy 3:16 (King James Version)

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[Jeremiah Abernathy]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

It's funny how Athiests delude themselves into believing this Big Bang "theory" isn't complete hogwash. They go out of their way to convince us Godly Christians that we're idiots for believing in God, and that we should instead believe that some massive ball appeared out of nothing for no reason and then randomly blew up in an explosion that defies their own science to somehow create the Universe. Now which seems more ridiculous to you? A God creating a perfect Universe with a purpose or a magical bomb somehow coming into existence from nothing so it can make a cosmic explosion for no reason? Luckily there are people out there smart enough to see this scientific "theory" for what it really is. I feel Athiests only try so hard to convince others of the Big Bang because they want to validate their belief in what they know is a lie.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

It's funny how Athiests delude themselves into believing this Big Bang "theory" isn't complete hogwash. They go out of their way to convince us Godly Christians that we're idiots for believing in God, and that we should instead believe that some massive ball appeared out of nothing for no reason and then randomly blew up in an explosion that defies their own science to somehow create the Universe. Now which seems more ridiculous to you? A God creating a perfect Universe with a purpose or a magical bomb somehow coming into existence from nothing so it can make a cosmic explosion for no reason? Luckily there are people out there smart enough to see this scientific "theory" for what it really is. I feel Athiests only try so hard to convince others of the Big Bang because they want to validate their belief in what they know is a lie.

Actually brother, the reason that atheists are constantly trying to argue that there is no God, is because they want to justify having anal sex. Theirs is a movement founded entirely upon one unholy abomination: the act of inserting phallic objects into the anuses of one another. Not only that, but the only reason people have found to justify anal sex is atheism. As long as there is a God, people know that anal sex is disgusting to Him, and therefore totally unjustifiable as a way of life. But if they can somehow convince people that there is no God, they can easily recruit other whores and faggots into their perverted lifestyle.

[michael the hater]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

Actually brother, the reason that atheists are constantly trying to argue that there is no God, is because they want to justify having anal sex. Theirs is a movement founded entirely upon one unholy abomination: the act of inserting phallic objects into the anuses of one another. Not only that, but the only reason people have found to justify anal sex is atheism. As long as there is a God, people know that anal sex is disgusting to Him, and therefore totally unjustifiable as a way of life. But if they can somehow convince people that there is no God, they can easily recruit other whores and faggots into their perverted lifestyle.

so why have i seen a post with regards to anal sex being ok on this forum?

i am not constantly trying to argue against god but i like to see all sides before i make a decision. big bang theory is just one theory.

[Lisa H]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

so why have i seen a post with regards to anal sex being ok on this forum?

i am not constantly trying to argue against god but i like to see all sides before i make a decision. big bang theory is just one theory.

The big bang theory is just a lie stolen from the Bible. God created everything, it is not hard to understand.

[Aristotle]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

so why have i seen a post with regards to anal sex being ok on this forum?

Because it is a well known fact that there is a direct correlation between homosexuality and atheism.

i am not constantly trying to argue against god but i like to see all sides before i make a decision. big bang theory is just one theory.

Hey, we are not the ones that go around claiming that giant black hole monsters are out there eating up stars.

[exorcism]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

Because it is a well known fact that there is a direct correlation between homosexuality and atheism.

I would like to see solid proof to back this up. In fact I know of 3 homosexuals on my block 2 are devout Christians the other one is Jewish.

Now for the matter at hand, I do not see why both cannot be, God could of created the singularity and then let nature take care of the rest. After lurking these forums for the past 2 days I find that you guys think that if science is right then God cannot exist, nothing could be farther from the truth. Genesis (along with the rest of the Old test) is a guideline to base morales on but should not be taken literally. God gave us the power of thought and logic for a reason, so we can figure out the universe we live in.

In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Santi

[Levi Jones]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

I would like to see solid proof to back this up. In fact I know of 3 homosexuals on my block 2 are devout Christians the other one is Jewish.

What do the torah and New Testament say about homosexuality? Do they say it's okay?

[James Dewitt]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

Genesis (along with the rest of the Old test) is a guideline to base morales on but should not be taken literally. God gave us the power of thought and logic for a reason, so we can figure out the universe we live in.

In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Santi

Lets see do these scriptures say that they are guide lines?

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.



No not so much. They do however tell us that the Bible is true and we should follow it.



Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

No they say nothing of guidelines. Clearly we should follow the entire Bible, word for word. Why do you Cathliks feel the need to question God's words? Can you show me just where it is in the Bible that say we should?

[exorcism]

Re: The Big Bang. The atheist Genesis.

What do the torah and New Testament say about homosexuality? Do they say it's okay?

I was thought of a tolerant and loving God, He who loves all of his creations equally. I was thought to love my brother no matter of creed, sex, colour or otherwise. Now the Torah I know little about.