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  • Master Gordon
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
    The speed of light is a theory based on the theory of relativity, which attempts to connect space and time.

    The theory of relativity though is just a theory. Theories are not fact. Anything with theory in it's name is not proven most notebly: the theory of evolution.

    I could invent a theory now i.e the theory that the sky is yellow, so the ''Yellow Sky Theory''. Obviously this doesn't make it a fact, it's just theoretical.

    Most evolutionists though have a hard time understanding what is fact and what is theory or assumption, speculation etc. They can't distinguish between the two, and so they think evolution and any other science theory which has a considerable amount of support is a fact when it isn't.
    Amen to that brother your logic is sound and it is crystal clear

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  • Master Gordon
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by mathmexican View Post
    You guys are absolutely right. Secular science is absolutely false and full of heretics that should burn in hell, the only things that can be believed in are the holy scripture. What would we do without it?! We would not have anything worth living in this world. Thank you for understanding this.
    Friend you are absolutely right, do you love Jesus?

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  • Meek and Humble
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by SoulMan View Post
    You can see a car at night on a hill with it's light's on miles away. Also a aircraft lights at night you can see thousands of feet up your logic is flawed.


    The speed of light is a theory based on the theory of relativity, which attempts to connect space and time.

    The theory of relativity though is just a theory. Theories are not fact. Anything with theory in it's name is not proven most notebly: the theory of evolution.

    I could invent a theory now i.e the theory that the sky is yellow, so the ''Yellow Sky Theory''. Obviously this doesn't make it a fact, it's just theoretical.

    Most evolutionists though have a hard time understanding what is fact and what is theory or assumption, speculation etc. They can't distinguish between the two, and so they think evolution and any other science theory which has a considerable amount of support is a fact when it isn't.

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  • SoulMan
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
    If the light is millions of years old and just reached us why do the headlights on my car stop after a few hundred feet? Or do the shine all the way to the stars?

    We are ashamed that you call yourself a Christian.
    You can see a car at night on a hill with it's light's on miles away. Also a aircraft lights at night you can see thousands of feet up your logic is flawed.

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  • James Dewitt
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by Andrewg View Post
    The light reached the earth some time ago. You are here now, so you can see them.
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    I am ashamed. You plug your ears when a scientist talks, and take what little you heard out of context. I am ashamed.
    If the light is millions of years old and just reached us why do the headlights on my car stop after a few hundred feet? Or do the shine all the way to the stars?

    We are ashamed that you call yourself a Christian.

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  • Andrewg
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    The light reached the earth some time ago. You are here now, so you can see them.
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    I am ashamed. You plug your ears when a scientist talks, and take what little you heard out of context. I am ashamed.

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  • mathmexican
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    You guys are absolutely right. Secular science is absolutely false and full of heretics that should burn in hell, the only things that can be believed in are the holy scripture. What would we do without it?! We would not have anything worth living in this world. Thank you for understanding this.

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  • Meek and Humble
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by clownbaby View Post
    So next time there is a solar eclipse are you willing to stare at the sun?
    Yes, of course!

    Because if you watched the video, you would understand sungazing is relevant to all ancient cultures. The knowledge though about it became lost, but it is only now being rediscovered.

    Many early Christians practiced sungazing. It's a form of breatharianism or inedia (extreme fasting), where you fully abstain from eating or drinking. There are many Christians who believe Adam and Eve were originally breathatarians and sungazers (there was no meat before the fall).

    Ratan Manek achieved no eating or drinking for 211 days via sungazing. Nicholas of Flüe, the patron saint of Switzerland achieved fasting for 19 years. There are other accounts of where people have survived for very long periods without eating or drinking because of sungazing. Sungazing is not only apart of eastern teaching, but is something everyone was originally doing. How it was done however became lost like most other ancient knowledge. If you look up the accounts of Christian mystics who lived for tens of years without eating or drinking. How did they do it? They did it through the sun.

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  • barton
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
    One common way of measuring the speed of light, is bouncing a laser off a mirror placed on the moon.
    I stopped reading right here. What utter gobbledygook is this? You expect me to believe you put a mirror on the moon?

    This is the perverse problem with people like you. You make all these crazy assertions, expect us to blindly believe whatever you say, use all sorts of bizarre calculations. It's all so very, very improbable. Then, of course, we have God's inerrant written Word which tells us everything we need to know, in specific terms.

    I mean, seriously. I should believe you over God? That's really messed up!

    However, taking your ridiculous experiment at face value... how can you be so sure the problem is not with the mirror? I think it's more likely that all mirrors exhibit a delayed response, which is obviously exacerbated by distance and perhaps mirror quality. If you used a better mirror, there would be less reflective delay. With much shorter distances, like from across my living room, the delay is imperceptible. (Note, this only deals with mirrored surfaces).

    In fact, I'd say this test is great way to do quality control on mirrors. The smaller the delay, the more precious the mirror!

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  • clownbaby
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
    No it's not. Look up sungazing.






    Bates Method (Sunning):



    Scientists lie that sunlight can damage our vision, but it can't, because light is going out of our eyes, not into it.
    So next time there is a solar eclipse are you willing to stare at the sun?

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  • Meek and Humble
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
    One common way of measuring the speed of light, is bouncing a laser off a mirror placed on the moon. The distance between the moon and earth is constant [238,857 miles] And the time it takes for the laser to leave the device bounce off the mirror and return to earth is approximately 2.5 seconds.

    Leaving the following calculation 238,857mi/2.5s = 186,000 mi/s.

    Let me know if any of this basic algebra is unclear.

    No it's not. Look up sungazing.






    Bates Method (Sunning):



    Scientists lie that sunlight can damage our vision, but it can't, because light is going out of our eyes, not into it.

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  • zeropoint
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
    This whole experiment starts at the assumption the intromission theory is true, yet it's only a theory. Theories are not fact. There is no evidence light travels at all if you get down to the basics of visual perception.

    We cease to see when we close our eyes, for over 2000 years it was accepted closing our eyes prevents this emission of light.

    This is a good book you can buy which covers about visual perception: Visual perception: an introduction By Nicholas Wade, Psychology Press, 2001 - it details how the emission theory has never been disproved and that there is no actual evidence that light travels.
    One common way of measuring the speed of light, is bouncing a laser off a mirror placed on the moon. The distance between the moon and earth is constant [238,857 miles] And the time it takes for the laser to leave the device bounce off the mirror and return to earth is approximately 2.5 seconds.

    Leaving the following calculation 238,857mi/2.5s = 186,000 mi/s.

    Let me know if any of this basic algebra is unclear.

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  • Master Gordon
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
    I agree Brother Gordon. His logic is perhaps some of the worst I have seen.
    Flawed is being kind, but that is what we are famous for.
    Yes totally agree I don't believe I have seen any of the Christians on this forum be unkind to anyone (unless they were unsaved scum that were mocking God). I continue to pray for these poor lost souls.

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  • Meek and Humble
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
    It was actually [insert other god here[ to give all those technologies. It says this in [insert holy book here]. I pity you all for believing in a false god.


    This logic is obviously flawed.
    This whole experiment starts at the assumption the intromission theory is true, yet it's only a theory. Theories are not fact. There is no evidence light travels at all if you get down to the basics of visual perception.

    We cease to see when we close our eyes, for over 2000 years it was accepted closing our eyes prevents this emission of light.

    This is a good book you can buy which covers about visual perception: Visual perception: an introduction By Nicholas Wade, Psychology Press, 2001 - it details how the emission theory has never been disproved and that there is no actual evidence that light travels.

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  • Phebe Carlyle
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    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
    Shut up WHORE I did not give you permission to speak.
    Ms. Carlyle, would you please give me a second to collect my feeble thoughts?
    Mr Zeropoint,

    Obviously you could not refute my post so had to resort to derogatory comment.
    Typical brutish atheist retort. *yawn* Oh No.. you have hurt my feelings...because I have never been persecuted like that for loving Jesus before YOU did it!!!



    Now, are you capable of rational discussion?

    YIC

    Phebe Carlyle.

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