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  • James Hutchins
    True Christian™
    Just a Regular Nice Guy
     
    • Jun 2009
    • 29453

    #151
    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

    Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
    If it weren't for secular science, You would not be able to have this website, your computer, or any of these luxuries you idolize.
    That is incorrect, again.

    God woud provide. He always has and always will to those who love Him.
    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
    Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
    Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
    Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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    • zeropoint
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11

      #152
      Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

      Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
      That is incorrect, again.

      God woud provide. He always has and always will to those who love Him.
      When has god provided any new technology that wasn't the direct result of thorough scientific research?

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      • Phebe Carlyle
        GALS 4 GOD Guidance Counseler
        Expert at baking, sewing, and rebuking unsaved scum
        True Christian™
        • May 2010
        • 2604

        #153
        Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

        Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
        When has god provided any new technology that wasn't the direct result of thorough scientific research?
        If creating an entire universe SINGLE-HANDED is not good enough technology for you then you are a sad case.

        Let's see stupid secular scientists do that!

        Also, anything mere humans have developed is because of the (raw) materials GOD CREATED and provided in the first place. As such, any "new technology" for we mere humans, has ALWAYS BEEN tucked up God's heavenly sleeve!

        You give far too much credit to scientists, but refuse to accept that without God, NOTHING they "invent" would be possible.

        YIC

        Phebe Carlyle.




        There's Jesus here,
        Just see what He offers me....
        Down here my sins forgiven,
        Up there a home in heaven
        Praise God, That's the way for me!!

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        • Cranky Old Man
          Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
          You kids get off his lawn!
           
          • Jan 2010
          • 22369

          #154
          Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

          Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
          When has god provided any new technology that wasn't the direct result of thorough scientific research?
          Fire, the wheel, the paperclip, the microchip, the list is endless. Stop being pointless please.
          5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
          To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
          James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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          • Master Gordon
            Forum Member
            Forum Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 376

            #155
            Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

            Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
            If it weren't for secular science, You would not be able to have this website, your computer, or any of these luxuries you idolize.
            Friend that is a ridiculous statement every one knows that Mr. Steve Jobs, and Mr. William Gates were inspired by God to give us the equipment we needed to spread Gods Holy Word. I do not idolize anything other then the Lord My God, God was very clear in what he thinks about idolatry, and putting anything else before him, you should read the KJV1611 Bible you would Gods word to be quite clear on these matters:

            KJV1611 Exodus 20:2 I am the Lord thy God, which haue brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage: 3 Thou shalt haue no other Gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make vnto thee any grauen Image, or any likenesse of any thing that is in heauen aboue, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water vnder the earth. 5 Thou shalt not bow downe thy selfe to them, nor serue them: For I the Lord thy God am a iealous God, visiting the iniquitie of the fathers vpon the children, vnto the thirde and fourth generation of them that hate me:


            I would suggest you take heed of these Words, or you and the generations following you will perish in the fires of hell for eternity.
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            Remember this one thing brothers and sisters: KJV Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit,
            so a fool returneth to his folly

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            • Master Gordon
              Forum Member
              Forum Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 376

              #156
              Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

              Originally posted by Phebe Carlyle View Post
              If creating an entire universe SINGLE-HANDED is not good enough technology for you then you are a sad case.

              Let's see stupid secular scientists do that!

              Also, anything mere humans have developed is because of the (raw) materials GOD CREATED and provided in the first place. As such, any "new technology" for we mere humans, has ALWAYS BEEN tucked up God's heavenly sleeve!

              You give far too much credit to scientists, but refuse to accept that without God, NOTHING they "invent" would be possible.

              YIC

              Phebe Carlyle.
              Sometimes it is just like belting your head against a brick wall when trying to get through to some people. I continue to pray to Jesus for their salvation.
              sigpic
              Remember this one thing brothers and sisters: KJV Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit,
              so a fool returneth to his folly

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              • zeropoint
                Unsaved trash
                • Nov 2010
                • 11

                #157
                Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                Originally posted by Phebe Carlyle View Post
                If creating an entire universe SINGLE-HANDED is not good enough technology for you then you are a sad case.

                Let's see stupid secular scientists do that!

                Also, anything mere humans have developed is because of the (raw) materials GOD CREATED and provided in the first place. As such, any "new technology" for we mere humans, has ALWAYS BEEN tucked up God's heavenly sleeve!

                You give far too much credit to scientists, but refuse to accept that without God, NOTHING they "invent" would be possible.

                YIC

                Phebe Carlyle.
                Shut up WHORE I did not give you permission to speak.
                Ms. Carlyle, would you please give me a second to collect my feeble thoughts?
                Last edited by James Hutchins; 11-18-2010, 10:33 PM. Reason: Made the words more Godly and less offensive

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                • James Hutchins
                  True Christian™
                  Just a Regular Nice Guy
                   
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 29453

                  #158
                  Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                  Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
                  When has god provided any new technology that wasn't the direct result of thorough scientific research?
                  Child, look in the mirror. He gave us man, the Planets, the Heavens and Hell, all in just six days. What has any secular 'scientist' done in six days?
                  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                  Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                  Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                  Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                  Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                  Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                  • zeropoint
                    Unsaved trash
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11

                    #159
                    Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                    Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
                    Fire, the wheel, the paperclip, the microchip, the list is endless. Stop being pointless please.
                    It was actually [insert other god here[ to give all those technologies. It says this in [insert holy book here]. I pity you all for believing in a false god.


                    This logic is obviously flawed.

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                    • Master Gordon
                      Forum Member
                      Forum Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 376

                      #160
                      Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                      Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
                      It was actually [insert other god here[ to give all those technologies. It says this in [insert holy book here]. I pity you all for believing in a false god.


                      This logic is obviously flawed.
                      Yes I totally agree your logic is flawed.
                      sigpic
                      Remember this one thing brothers and sisters: KJV Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit,
                      so a fool returneth to his folly

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                      • James Hutchins
                        True Christian™
                        Just a Regular Nice Guy
                         
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 29453

                        #161
                        Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                        Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
                        It was actually [insert other god here[ to give all those technologies. It says this in [insert holy book here]. I pity you all for believing in a false god.


                        This logic is obviously flawed.
                        Originally posted by Master Gordon View Post
                        Yes I totally agree your logic is flawed.
                        I agree Brother Gordon. His logic is perhaps some of the worst I have seen.
                        Flawed is being kind, but that is what we are famous for.
                        Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                        Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                        Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                        Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                        Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                        Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                        • Phebe Carlyle
                          GALS 4 GOD Guidance Counseler
                          Expert at baking, sewing, and rebuking unsaved scum
                          True Christian™
                          • May 2010
                          • 2604

                          #162
                          Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                          Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
                          Shut up WHORE I did not give you permission to speak.
                          Ms. Carlyle, would you please give me a second to collect my feeble thoughts?
                          Mr Zeropoint,

                          Obviously you could not refute my post so had to resort to derogatory comment.
                          Typical brutish atheist retort. *yawn* Oh No.. you have hurt my feelings...because I have never been persecuted like that for loving Jesus before YOU did it!!!



                          Now, are you capable of rational discussion?

                          YIC

                          Phebe Carlyle.




                          There's Jesus here,
                          Just see what He offers me....
                          Down here my sins forgiven,
                          Up there a home in heaven
                          Praise God, That's the way for me!!

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                          • Meek and Humble
                            Biblical Poet, Warrior and Scholar
                            Biblical Black Belt
                            Jr. Pastor
                            True Christian™
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 6197

                            #163
                            Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                            Originally posted by zeropoint View Post
                            It was actually [insert other god here[ to give all those technologies. It says this in [insert holy book here]. I pity you all for believing in a false god.


                            This logic is obviously flawed.
                            This whole experiment starts at the assumption the intromission theory is true, yet it's only a theory. Theories are not fact. There is no evidence light travels at all if you get down to the basics of visual perception.

                            We cease to see when we close our eyes, for over 2000 years it was accepted closing our eyes prevents this emission of light.

                            This is a good book you can buy which covers about visual perception: Visual perception: an introduction By Nicholas Wade, Psychology Press, 2001 - it details how the emission theory has never been disproved and that there is no actual evidence that light travels.

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                            • Master Gordon
                              Forum Member
                              Forum Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 376

                              #164
                              Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                              I agree Brother Gordon. His logic is perhaps some of the worst I have seen.
                              Flawed is being kind, but that is what we are famous for.
                              Yes totally agree I don't believe I have seen any of the Christians on this forum be unkind to anyone (unless they were unsaved scum that were mocking God). I continue to pray for these poor lost souls.
                              sigpic
                              Remember this one thing brothers and sisters: KJV Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit,
                              so a fool returneth to his folly

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                              • zeropoint
                                Unsaved trash
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11

                                #165
                                Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

                                Originally posted by Heathen_Basher View Post
                                This whole experiment starts at the assumption the intromission theory is true, yet it's only a theory. Theories are not fact. There is no evidence light travels at all if you get down to the basics of visual perception.

                                We cease to see when we close our eyes, for over 2000 years it was accepted closing our eyes prevents this emission of light.

                                This is a good book you can buy which covers about visual perception: Visual perception: an introduction By Nicholas Wade, Psychology Press, 2001 - it details how the emission theory has never been disproved and that there is no actual evidence that light travels.
                                One common way of measuring the speed of light, is bouncing a laser off a mirror placed on the moon. The distance between the moon and earth is constant [238,857 miles] And the time it takes for the laser to leave the device bounce off the mirror and return to earth is approximately 2.5 seconds.

                                Leaving the following calculation 238,857mi/2.5s = 186,000 mi/s.

                                Let me know if any of this basic algebra is unclear.

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