[Networks]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

Why are you bothering us then? This is a Christian forum. Are you even a Christian?

Because I enjoy discussing things such as this. It's excellent mental exercise.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

TBH, all this yattering about satellites is so much bunkum. As the earth's flat, satellites aren't required; just a tall antenna or two.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

Indeed they are. But the GPS sattelites are in a lower orbit that results in them moving reletive to the surface of the Earth, so they probably aren't stuck to anything.

I'm not suggesting you people are wrong or anything. Geostationary satelites may well be attached to the firmamment. I'm just pointing out that the GPS satellites are not geostationary.

Why are you bothering us then? This is a Christian forum. Are you even a Christian?

[Networks]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

Please explain how you can tell whether the satellites are moving or the firmament is moving? It would look the same. And the bible tells us their is a firmament and that the earth is a flat circle. What was it about my explanation about the Hebrew words that you did not understand? I covered this in detail.

Well, even if some GPS sattelties were attatched to the firmament, not all GPS satellites are in the same orbit. There's 6 different planes on which the GPS sattelites orbit, so if the firmament is going along the path of one, it can't be going along the other paths.

Besides, this sidesteps the main issue here. Saying that simply means that instead of the GPS satelites moving against the firmament, the geostationary satelites now move against the firmament

Have you ever been in space to see exactly where those so-called satellites are, or even if they exist in the first place? Or is it a leap of faith on your part?

Well, I haven't been to see them up close, any more than I haven't been to see Hawaii. Although it's nice to watch them go overhead on a clear night.

Besides, I'm not denying your firmament model, which is no doubt true to God's word. I just wanted to point out that GPS satellites are not geostationary. you can watch them crawl across the sky, if you have a suitably powerful telescope or something that can here in the microwave range. Prehaps you could have chunks of the firmament moving around separately to the main disc.

[Bible Student]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

Indeed they are. But the GPS sattelites are in a lower orbit that results in them moving reletive to the surface of the Earth, so they probably aren't stuck to anything.

I'm not suggesting you people are wrong or anything. Geostationary satelites may well be attached to the firmamment. I'm just pointing out that the GPS satellites are not geostationary.

Please explain how you can tell whether the satellites are moving or the firmament is moving? It would look the same. And the bible tells us their is a firmament and that the earth is a flat circle. What was it about my explanation about the Hebrew words that you did not understand? I covered this in detail.

It just so happens we accept God's inerrant Word as found in the 1611 King James Bible where each of those words were God-breathed. You on the other hand are willing to put your faith in lying atheist scientist and you do not have the background to tell their lies from the occasional truth.

Have you ever been in space to see exactly where those so-called satellites are, or even if they exist in the first place? Or is it a leap of faith on your part?

[Networks]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

Special satellites that broadcast correction data for WAAS & EGNOS are in geostationary orbits above the equator.

Indeed they are. But the GPS sattelites are in a lower orbit that results in them moving reletive to the surface of the Earth, so they probably aren't stuck to anything.

I'm not suggesting you people are wrong or anything. Geostationary satelites may well be attached to the firmamment. I'm just pointing out that the GPS satellites are not geostationary.

[Bible Student]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

Originally Posted by Aristotle
As I explained elsewhere, GPS, and other geo-stationary satellites are stuck in the firmamment above the earth. That is why they are called 'stationary'.

Just to mention, the GPS satellites aren't geostationary. They pass across the sky once every 12 hours, so don't remain stationary relative to the Earth.

Special satellites that broadcast correction data for WAAS & EGNOS are in geostationary orbits above the equator.

You atheists certainly have a lot of faith in prevaricating false scientists.

[Networks]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

As I explained elsewhere, GPS, and other geo-stationary satellites are stuck in the firmamment above the earth. That is why they are called 'stationary'.

Just to mention, the GPS satellites aren't geostationary. They pass across the sky once every 12 hours, so don't remain stationary relative to the Earth.

[Janine Walker]

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You can't have it both ways, either God fixes everything to roll his way, or he stays out of interfering with humanity directly. I bet you i could find a king james bible with a typo in it.

oh here we go, in 1631:

http://www.revelife.com/710024434/thou-shalt-commit-adultery-bible-misprint/

Wicked Bible on free public display in British Library, London.

http://twitpic.com/9kzw1

How'd this one get by His editor?
The world is either flawed or perfect, and im not seeing a lot of perfect.

Did we say we follow KJV 1631? No, we follow the only true form of God's word which is KJV1611.

At least do a little research on something you're researching, jeeez!

Janine Walker

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

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The only bodies attracted to each other are young men and women, (except in San Francisco where like attracts like).

As I explained elsewhere, GPS, and other geo-stationary satellites are stuck in the firmamment above the earth. That is why they are called 'stationary'.

Correct. And not , as some people believe, becausethey are made of paper.

[Aristotle]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

The basis of gravity is NOT that what goes up must come down. It is that two bodies are attracted to each other based on their masses. We can overcome the attraction of a rocket to the earth by using rockets. If gravity is BS, why does your GPS work? Satellites in orbit are providing you with your location. Its easier to believe in conspiracy than hard work by scientists isnt it. I wish so very badly i could guide you through an intro kinematics course at a college, it answers all your questions.

The only bodies attracted to each other are young men and women, (except in San Francisco where like attracts like).

As I explained elsewhere, GPS, and other geo-stationary satellites are stuck in the firmamment above the earth. That is why they are called 'stationary'.

[Cranky Old Man]

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Every single point sounds a lot like your god.

Duh!

[SkniB!]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

I’m surprised that anyone believes any of this infantile garbage:

1. A thing that is invisible yet sends messages to people on earth
2. A thing that has a huge source of energy to send the messages
3. A thing that seems to operate on its own without reference to anyone else
4. A thing that we should hold in awe and amazement
5. A thing that tells us mysterious things that were beyond our imaginings
6. A thing that uses a language that is hard to understand and can only be interpreted by trained people.
7. A thing that only a few people ever claimed to see, and that was years and years ago!

Seriously, it’s all hogwash, isn’t it? Nevertheless, there will be atheists coming along and telling us it’s real! Ha! Their delusions and credulity amaze me.

Every single point sounds a lot like your god.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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It's clearly a crucifix though! You can see Jesus's head, then his knees bent and everything.

[TheFlash]

Re: Oh Dear. NASA Still perpetuatiNg the Voyager MYTH!

You want to see some real beauty in the Heavens?



That is the Whirlpool Galaxy. How could a cross form by chance? Simple answer: It couldn't. This is proof that Jesus Christ died for our sins and God has imprinted this as His signature upon the Universe. You don't see the symbols of Islam or Judaism being represented in the night sky, do you?

Looking for the cross in star pictures, or toast, or in everyday life is a cheap shot. Its a really easy shape to make. Its just two lines crossing at a right angle.