[ultima]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

Ezekiel, I've already answered most of those questions. God made us. God made us using evolution as his tool. It's not a far out theory. It fits with both religions and with common scientific facts.

[ultima]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

You are trying to play a game of wonderland croquet on us by moving the hoops. Your quote did not come from the link that Sister Mary Maria provided, but from here:

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/benton.html

It is not a question of "fundamentalism", but one of epistemology. You are what we call a salad bar Christian. You pick and choose what parts of the Bible (KJV1611) you are willing to "believe". The fact of the matter is that "scientists" are constantly changing their minds about things. If you expect Salvation, God has spoken in how He want us to live our lives. If we were to listen to you then every time some "scientist" makes some kind of proclamation about some new "theory" we are supposed to go back and reinterpret God's Holy Word. "Scientists" have somehow been anointed "Prophets" of the Lord.

For the love of God William. Click the linked text she quoted before calling me a liar. My text did come from the link she provided. The second one. No need to apologize, I accept.


I believe you have to interpret the Bible in order for it to be relevant and make sense. Do I believe God was angry at people for building a big tower called Babel that would reach heaven? No I don't because heaven isn't 1000 feet in the air. Obviously some parts of the Bible specifically the earlier chapters were not from the mouth of God.

People wrote these texts. People didn't understand the world they lived in so they sometimes had to take a creative liberty. If the bible is literal, tell me where are the dinosaurs? I'm not saying this disproves the Bible's legitimacy, but it in fact confirms one cannot take everything in the Bible word for word.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

What I reject is fundamentalism and the use of the literal translations of the Bible. Compounded upon this, is the fact that the Bible was not written in English and that errors in literal meaning are even easier to come by.

Here. Let me quote it for you again Willy.


Last time I checked 48.6 billion years was longer than 6010. I dunno though maybe you'll find a way to deny that as well.

You are trying to play a game of wonderland croquet on us by moving the hoops. Your quote did not come from the link that Sister Mary Maria provided, but from here:

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/benton.html

It is not a question of "fundamentalism", but one of epistemology. You are what we call a salad bar Christian. You pick and choose what parts of the Bible (KJV1611) you are willing to "believe". The fact of the matter is that "scientists" are constantly changing their minds about things. If you expect Salvation, God has spoken in how He want us to live our lives. If we were to listen to you then every time some "scientist" makes some kind of proclamation about some new "theory" we are supposed to go back and reinterpret God's Holy Word. "Scientists" have somehow been anointed "Prophets" of the Lord.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

What I reject is fundamentalism and the use of the literal translations of the Bible. Compounded upon this, is the fact that the Bible was not written in English and that errors in literal meaning are even easier to come by.

Once again you are spouting off about things you are completely ignorant of. God Himself gave us the Holy KJV1611 Bible. Take a look at THIS!

And once again I will repeat; radio carbon dating is a failed theory. Scientists pulled that out of their behinds. I challenge you to answer THESE questions.

[ultima]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

What I reject is fundamentalism and the use of the literal translations of the Bible. Compounded upon this, is the fact that the Bible was not written in English and that errors in literal meaning are even easier to come by.

Here. Let me quote it for you again Willy.

Radiometric dating involves the use of isotope series, such as rubidium/strontium, thorium/lead, potassium/argon, argon/argon, or uranium/lead, all of which have very long half-lives, ranging from 0.7 to 48.6 billion years. Subtle differences in the relative proportions of the two isotopes can give good dates for rocks of any age.

Last time I checked 48.6 billion years was longer than 6010. I dunno though maybe you'll find a way to deny that as well.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

So kind of you to cite a website that specifically says a number of things that contradict your beliefs.



Oh and lookie here! Right under the paragraph you quoted yourself:


I will admit, I was totally incorrect on the carbon dating. It's not available for use past 5700 years. However, that's not to say dates cannot be calculated.

Do yourself a favor. When citing a source and providing a link to that source: Read it through. By citing it for your argument, you're practically agreeing with it, thus disproving what you said.
(If you want, you can post 'Case Closed' right about now.)

First you apologize for not understanding Carbon Dating, then you compound your error by not reading and comprehending the link the good Sister provided:

" We’ve listed five faulty assumptions here that have caused overestimates of age using the carbon-14 method. The list of non-compliant dates from this method is endless. Most evolutionists today would conclude that carbon-14 dating is – at best – reliable for only the last 3000 to 3500 years."

In summary, you call yourself a "Christian" but reject the Truth of the Bible (KJV1611).

[ultima]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

That's rich coming from a troll who worships a queer video game invented by chinks.

I am a True Christian™ Pastor, and it is my duty to rebuke demons like you. Anything I say can be backed up with a little research on your part.

Start by reading the Holy Bible.

Anything you say? So if I were to find 50 things you've said that are either completely false or completely wrong would you leave these forums? After such a concrete statement on your part I suppose it would be an easy decision for yourself.

Props on the rebuking of demons by the way. Racist insults are definitely my weapon of choice when fighting demons. You've been taught by the best.

[Stricker]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

That's rich coming from a troll who worships a queer video game invented by chinks.

I am a True Christian™ Pastor, and it is my duty to rebuke demons like you. Anything I say can be backed up with a little research on your part.

Start by reading the Holy Bible.

I worship a queer video game invented by chinks? News to me! You must know me better than I know myself!

I'm a True Christian™, because that is my name, and good for you!

I've read it, it's as boring as Harry Potter.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

Have you noticed how no one takes you seriously, and how many laugh at you?

I wouldn't be surprised if you are just a cleverly disguised troll.

That's rich coming from a troll who worships a queer video game invented by chinks.

I am a True Christian™ Pastor, and it is my duty to rebuke demons like you. Anything I say can be backed up with a little research on your part.

Start by reading the Holy Bible.

[Stricker]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

Did you know that your hero Darwin was a drug-addicted communist who wanted to marry his cocker spaniel? He died screaming for Jesus, but it was too late.

I'll pray that you don't follow him to eternal damnation.

Have you noticed how no one takes you seriously, and how many laugh at you?

I wouldn't be surprised if you are just a cleverly disguised troll.

[ultima]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

When you start out the discussion with a lie, there is no further room to go. You are not a Christian. If you were, you would believe the truth of the Bible instead of whatever nonsense is fed to you by ScIeNtists and other Satan worshippers to lead you away from Jesus. You're so befuddled by the lies you don't even understand what they're trying to tell you!
Seeing as you won't believe a Christian source, I'll even give you someone from your own monkey-loving side telling you that you just said something very stupid.

Even though "carbon dating" is completely unreliable, even your "priests" admit that it doesn't prove the world is millions of years old!
But you know what source never changes, is 100% accurate, and was dictated by the most amazing eye-witness in the universe? The Bible! God tells us through His Holy Word exactly how the world came into being, and through genealogy, almost exactly how old the world is!
You can't get any more authoritative on the subject, so case closed.

So kind of you to cite a website that specifically says a number of things that contradict your beliefs.

Rejecting fossil data cannot be supported by proof.

Fossils prove that humans did not exist alongside dinosaurs.

Oh and lookie here! Right under the paragraph you quoted yourself:

Radiometric dating involves the use of isotope series, such as rubidium/strontium, thorium/lead, potassium/argon, argon/argon, or uranium/lead, all of which have very long half-lives, ranging from 0.7 to 48.6 billion years. Subtle differences in the relative proportions of the two isotopes can give good dates for rocks of any age.

I will admit, I was totally incorrect on the carbon dating. It's not available for use past 5700 years. However, that's not to say dates cannot be calculated.

Do yourself a favor. When citing a source and providing a link to that source: Read it through. By citing it for your argument, you're practically agreeing with it, thus disproving what you said.
(If you want, you can post 'Case Closed' right about now.)

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

I myself am a Christian..."Case closed" you claim?
I'm sorry, you mustn't have read a single post in this thread other than your own because the subject is still open to much discussion. Nothing has been proved on either side...Carbon dating has been proving that the world is millions of years old. Please, do not give me crap about some conspiracy between scientists to keep you all in the dark about this. When numerous divisions of scientists determine the same results independently from each other, I'd say it's grounds for a solid conclusion. A conclusion that the world was not created a few thousand years ago. I don't understand why it's so hard to believe this just because it's not listed in the Bible. Maybe it is true that everything in the Bible is true, I suppose that's up to personal interpretation. But can there be truths that were not explained in the Bible? Why can't something have happened that wasn't in the Bible? Answer me that.

When you start out the discussion with a lie, there is no further room to go. You are not a Christian. If you were, you would believe the truth of the Bible instead of whatever nonsense is fed to you by ScIeNtists and other Satan worshippers to lead you away from Jesus. You're so befuddled by the lies you don't even understand what they're trying to tell you!
Seeing as you won't believe a Christian source, I'll even give you someone from your own monkey-loving side telling you that you just said something very stupid.

The best-known absolute dating technique is carbon-14 dating, which archaeologists prefer to use. However, the half-life of carbon-14 is only 5730 years, so the method cannot be used for materials older than about 70,000 years.

Even though "carbon dating" is completely unreliable, even your "priests" admit that it doesn't prove the world is millions of years old!
But you know what source never changes, is 100% accurate, and was dictated by the most amazing eye-witness in the universe? The Bible! God tells us through His Holy Word exactly how the world came into being, and through genealogy, almost exactly how old the world is!
You can't get any more authoritative on the subject, so case closed.

[Vance Renadi]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

look, for anyone who wishes to be informed here, evolution does/did happen, Humans were created seperatly(spelling) but everything else that was created along side them HAS evolved, just not the way modern anti-religious scientists think, the genes don't randomly change, at least not in any of the social animals, yet they have changed, want to know how, god decides what the genes do, and he can decide that they behave different anytime, and he does

[ultima]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

So you're saying you believe whatever nonsense ScIeNtists feed you without any actual proof? How ridiculous! If they told you that the universe is millions of years old without having any shred of real evidence, would you believe that too? Or what about the theory that evilution started when there was nothing in the universe except for one tiny little ball, then that just exploded all by itself and everything came into being? You don't care how silly any of this sounds, do you? Not as long as it gives you an excuse to further turn your back on God!
Anyway, as I said earlier, case closed. Any more yammering on this subject despite how you've been proven wrong without a shadow of a doubt just shows how badly Satan as scrambled your brain.

chriStIaNs
Hey guys, I can do it too!!!
Take a look around before you make foolish assumptions and try to determine the hidden meanings of words. It's the same with that stupid Super Mario game. It doesn't make you look intelligent, it makes you look like you look a little on the ignorant side. The English language was created over thousands of years, what in the world makes you the linguistic authority to capitalize letters in a weak effort to add legitimacy to your claims?

That out of the way, I myself am a Christian. How could I capitalize such letters to make a mockery of my faith you ask? The truth is, it doesn't make a mockery of my faith because it has no legitimacy. The same goes with your clever little way of spelling 'evolution' as 'evilution'. Congratulations, I can tell your one of the 65% dropouts. Your parents must have been proud.

"Case closed" you claim?
I'm sorry, you mustn't have read a single post in this thread other than your own because the subject is still open to much discussion. Nothing has been proved on either side.

I agree with the thread starter in that, why do many Christians take it upon themselves to condemn evolution without another thought? The fact of the matter is that it isn't entirely impossible that evolution exists. It's been neither proved nor disproved as a law. Is it not possible that an omnipotent, and completely powerful God could not have used evolution as a tool for the creation of man? Why is that so hard to believe? God is all powerful, he could have done it however he pleased.

Carbon dating has been proving that the world is millions of years old. Please, do not give me crap about some conspiracy between scientists to keep you all in the dark about this. When numerous divisions of scientists determine the same results independently from each other, I'd say it's grounds for a solid conclusion. A conclusion that the world was not created a few thousand years ago. I don't understand why it's so hard to believe this just because it's not listed in the Bible. Maybe it is true that everything in the Bible is true, I suppose that's up to personal interpretation. But can there be truths that were not explained in the Bible? Why can't something have happened that wasn't in the Bible? Answer me that.

Now please, if you choose to argue with my post, do so carefully and methodically. Don't tell me all discussion is over without qualifying your reasons. Don't ask my for proof without providing your own.

--Thank you for your time, ultima.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Hello, I noticed that many of you don't understand evolution.

Sister Mary Maria is right: scientists are inherently irrational. The effects of education have undermined their ability to think about God's truth.

The following statistics are a little out-of-date but they make the point.

0.2% of professional American scientists believe in creationism.
65% of American high-school droppouts believe in creationism.

Higher education is indeed a high-road to a low place...HELL!

Unless young people choose a good institution like Bob Jones University, they run the risk of being turned away from the truth of Jesus by secular evil-thinkers.

~~ OEJ