Is it a Sin to Tell People The World is 6,000 Years Old?

[Bob4God]

Even the most casual of Christians understand that the Bible strictly forbids telling lies and falsehoods.

A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape. - Proverbs 19:5

As a Bible-believing fundamentalist Christian, I am obligated to believe the world is approximately 6,000 years old. To be honest, some things about life and this world make more sense to me if I consider the idea that the planet is much older, but understanding the world is not my main concern. Obeying GOD is my main concern.

Because I want to obey GOD, I am very cautious in my daily life to avoid breaking His rules, but I have run into a serious obstacle.

I tell lots of people that the world is 6,000 years old: people I meet on the street, the kid running the checkout counter at Wal Mart, the people I sell guns to at my shop... I tell them all about how science is really misleading everyone, and all the methods and tools scientists use to uncover the age of rocks and fossils are all unreliable and full of errors.

The problem is that I'm not really sure where the errors in the methods of carbon dating are.

I cannot point out inconsistencies in the fossil record, or show the deception of the geological layers if challenged to do so.

I'm aware that there is no known and tested scientific method of dating the age of the Earth that indicates the world is anywhere near 6,000 years old; all the evidence suggests an age much older than that.

But beliefs are more important than what everyone else calls facts, right? It is my obligation to spread a Biblical world view, correct?

So, despite all I know of what science says, am I violating GOD's commands not to tell a lie when I go ahead and tell people, some of whom may not know any better, that the world is 6,000 years old?

It's not that I am afraid of saying anything that makes me look like an absolute idiot or a compulsive liar to the rest of civilization, I just want to be a good Christian.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Is it a Sin to Tell People The World is 6,000 Years Old?

I cannot point out inconsistencies in the fossil record, or show the deception of the geological layers if challenged to do so.

I'm aware that there is no known and tested scientific method of dating the age of the Earth that indicates the world is anywhere near 6,000 years old; all the evidence suggests an age much older than that.

Oh sure, an atheist or liberal Christian may think these tested and falsifiable scientific methods of dating indicate the world is quite ancient, they may even be familiar with such heathen websites as talk origins which exists only to aid Satan in confusing man and enticing him to abandon God and reason for pride and licentiousness. But what they don't understand is that God is the same Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow. Science always changes its mind but consider some of the Truths found in the Holy Bible, and the corresponding year science "discovered" the same thing:

Blood is necessary for life (Revealed by God in Leviticus 17:11, discovered by man in the 19th Century)
Oceans have natural paths in them (Revealed by God in Psalms 8:8, discovered by man in 1854)
Radio astronomy; stars give off signals (Revealed by God inJob 38:7, discovered by man in 1945)
Air has weight (Revealed by God inJob 28:25, discovered by man in the 16th Century)
Water cycle (Revealed by God in Ecclesiastes 1:7 , discovered by man in the 17th Century)

Just because man has not yet discovered the earth is actually only about 6000 years old, it doesn't mean he won't eventually.

[Godfly]

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All scientific method relies on the false premis that things in the past behaved as things do now. But there is no proof for that since we can't jump in a time machine and see if it's true. Since we cannot prove this premis we must set it aside along with all the things that go along with it, among them carbon dating.

On the other hand we do have proof that things did behave much differently in the past. In the bible, men lived for hundreds of years, few men do now, the only explanation is that things aged at a slower rate. Maybe things aged at a faster rate right after the God created the earth but then slowed down. This might account for some of the carbon inconsistency. Or as I suspect, the atheist just made up carbon dating and so it has no value what so ever.

The only True Scientific Method is that which explains how the events in the bible occurred. If a theory fails to explain the age of the earth or how a flood might have covered the entire planet, we must change the theory so it does.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I always go to the best creation scientist in America for answers like this: Kent Hovind (prisoner #33458Yd).

[YOULIEMUCH!]

Re: Is it a Sin to Tell People The World is 6,000 Years Old?

Oh sure, an atheist or liberal Christian may think these tested and falsifiable scientific methods of dating indicate the world is quite ancient, they may even be familiar with such heathen websites as talk origins which exists only to aid Satan in confusing man and enticing him to abandon God and reason for pride and licentiousness. But what they don't understand is that God is the same Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow. Science always changes its mind but consider some of the Truths found in the Holy Bible, and the corresponding year science "discovered" the same thing:

Blood is necessary for life (discovered by the people who wrote the bible)
Oceans have natural paths in them (A retarded man thought of this)
Radio astronomy; stars give off signals (discovered by a very drunken man)
Air has weight (discovered by the people who wrote the bible)
Water cycle ( discovered by the people who wrote the bible)

Just because man has not yet discovered the earth is actually only about 13.75 billion years old, it doesn't mean he won't eventually.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I'm confused. I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being factual, as the Holy Bible contains all the information one needs to live a decent life on earth and secure eternal life in Heaven.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Is it a Sin to Tell People The World is 6,000 Years Old?

You think the Earth is 13.75 billion years old?

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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This has bothered me as well, friend. Especially as a scientist where I am challenged day-in and day-out to "back up my beliefs with science". All this nonsense about empirical evidence and the like can get tiresome! I suggest you do what I do: walk away. There is no way that I am going to have my faith beaten down by evidence and the like.

Remember: faith is the ability to say "I don't care what the facts are, I believe this." And that is what makes Christianity such a special relationship! Hit them back with the "you can't prove Love either, but it still exists" and change the subject.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Even the most casual of Christians understand that the Bible strictly forbids telling lies and falsehoods.I tell them all about how science is really misleading everyone, and all the methods and tools scientists use to uncover the age of rocks and fossils are all unreliable and full of errors.

The problem is that I'm not really sure where the errors in the methods of carbon dating are.

And this is your Salvation. A lie is when you actually know the truth yet, despite this, make a statement contrary to your knowledge.

You readily admit that you know nothing of science, following as you do The Lord's Words, "1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1 Timothy 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen."

I cannot point out inconsistencies in the fossil record, or show the deception of the geological layers if challenged to do so.

So-called "fossils" are just interesting rock formations or the remains of the creatures that died in the flood.

When The Lord saw fit to wipe out Creation (and it is His to do with as He will) there was a lot of mud around - The Grand Canyon is an example but only as small dot on the map of the Earth.

I'm aware that there is no known and tested scientific method of dating the age of the Earth that indicates the world is anywhere near 6,000 years old; all the evidence suggests an age much older than that.

No, it does not! All atomic decay measurements rely on a steady rate of decay!

Q: What would happen if, in His Mightiness, God ordained a sudden massive (one million-fold) increase for a short time whilst the Flood was on?
A: All bets are off in the scientific world - their blind trust is destroyed, their "evidence" is gone!

So, despite all I know of what science says, am I violating GOD's commands not to tell a lie when I go ahead and tell people, some of whom may not know any better, that the world is 6,000 years old?

Have you read any of this?

It's not that I am afraid of saying anything that makes me look like an absolute idiot.

Mrs Bathfire has mentioned this but not with regard to your pointless worries about lying.

[Scandick]

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What you tell people is 100% wrong.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Is it a Sin to Tell People The World is 6,000 Years Old?

What you tell people is 100% wrong.

Prove it. Your say-so is meaningless.

Prove that you know better than God.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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What you tell people is 100% wrong.

What we tell people is 100% Biblical.

Ergo, what we tell people is 100% Truth!

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[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Is it a Sin to Tell People The World is 6,000 Years Old?

What we tell people is 100% Biblical.

Ergo, what we tell people is 100% Truth!

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In two sentences, Mary, you've summed up the essence of Christianity. Your women's group is lucky to have you

[Scandick]

Re: Is it a Sin to Tell People The World is 6,000 Years Old?

Prove it. Your say-so is meaningless.

Prove that you know better than God.

Well, God doesn't exist.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Is it a Sin to Tell People The World is 6,000 Years Old?

Well, God doesn't exist.

Prove it.

You have one hour.

YiC,

Zech