Dinosaurs.

[Mad European]

Did God create dinosaurs and make them extinct? If not, what are dinosaur skeletons?

[Curious Agnostic]

Re: Dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs are an atheist myth created to promote the Homosexual Agenda!

[revrggreen]

Re: Dinosaurs.

Did God create dinosaurs and make them extinct? If not, what are dinosaur skeletons?

In Genesis 6, we read that all flesh (man and animals) had ‘corrupted his way upon the Earth’ (Genesis 6:12). Perhaps people and animals were killing each other; maybe dinosaurs had started killing other animals and humans. In any case, the Bible describes the world as ‘wicked.’

Because of this wickedness, God warned a godly man named Noah that He was going to destroy the world with a Flood (Genesis 6:13). God therefore commanded him to build a great ship (the Ark) so that all the kinds of land animals (which must have included dinosaurs) and Noah’s family could survive on board while the Flood destroyed the entire Earth (Genesis 6:14-20).

Some people think that dinosaurs were too big, or there were too many of them, to go on this Ark. However, there were not very many different kinds of dinosaurs. There are certainly hundreds of dinosaur names, but many of these were given to just a bit of bone or skeletons of the same dinosaur found in other countries. It is also reasonable to assume that different sizes, varieties, and sexes of the same kind of dinosaur have ended up with different names. For example, look at the many different varieties and sizes of dogs, but they are all the same kind-the dog kind! In reality, there may have been fewer than 50 kinds of dinosaurs.

God sent two of every (seven of some) land animal into the Ark (Genesis 7:2-3; 7:8-9)—there were no exceptions. Therefore, dinosaurs must have been on the Ark. Even though there was ample room in the huge ship for large animals, perhaps God sent young adults into the Ark that still had plenty of room for them to grow.

Well, what happened to all the land animals that did not go on the Ark? Very simply, they drowned. Many would have been covered with tons of mud as the rampaging water covered the land (Genesis 7:11-12,19). Because of this quick burial, many of the animals would have been preserved as fossils. If this happened, you would expect to find evidence of billions of dead things buried in rock layers (formed from this mud) all over the Earth. This is exactly what you do find.

By the way, the Flood of Noah’s day probably occurred just over 4,500 years ago. Creationists believe that this event formed many of the fossil layers around the Earth. (Additional fossil layers were formed by other floods as the Earth settled down after the great Flood.) Thus, the dinosaur fossils which were formed as a result of this Flood were probably formed about 4,500 years ago, not millions of years ago.

Have Dinosaurs Lived in Recent Times?

If the different kinds of dinosaurs survived the Flood, then they must have come off the Ark and lived in the post-Flood world.

In the Bible, in Job 40:15-24, God describes to Job (who lived after the Flood) a great beast with which Job was familiar. This great animal, called ‘behemoth,’ is described as ‘the chief of the ways of God,’ perhaps the biggest land animal God had created. Impressively, he moved his tail like a cedar tree! Although some Bible commentaries say this may have been an elephant or hippopotamus, the description actually fits that of a dinosaur like Brachiosaurus. Elephants and hippos certainly do not have tails like cedar trees!

Actually, very few animals are singled out in the Bible for such a detailed description. Contrary to what many may think, what we know now as dinosaurs get more mention in the Scriptures than most animals! So dinosaurs—all the different kinds—must have lived alongside of people after the Flood.

Are Dinosaurs Mentioned in Ancient Literature?

Interestingly, the word ‘dragon’ is used a number of times in the Old Testament. In most instances, the word dinosaur could substitute for dragon and it would fit very nicely. Creation scientists believe that dinosaurs were called dragons before the word dinosaur was invented in the 1800s. We would not expect to find the word dinosaur in Bibles like the Authorized Version (1611), as it was translated well before the word dinosaur was ever used.

Also, there are many very old history books in various libraries around the world that have detailed records of dragons and their encounters with people. Surprisingly (or not so surprisingly for creationists), many of these descriptions of dragons fit with how modern scientists would describe dinosaurs, even Tyrannosaurus. Unfortunately, this evidence is not considered valid by evolutionists. Why? Only because their belief is that man and dinosaurs did not live at the same time!

However, the more we research the historical literature, the more we realize there is overwhelming evidence that dragons were real beasts, much like our modern reconstructions of dinosaurs, and that their existence has been recorded by many different people, even just hundreds of years ago.

What Happened to Dinosaurs?

Evolutionists use their imagination in a big way in answering this question. Because of their belief that dinosaurs ‘ruled’ the world for millions of years, and then disappeared millions of years before man allegedly evolved, they have had to come up with all sorts of guesses to explain this ‘mysterious’ disappearance.

When reading evolutionist literature, you will be astonished at the range of ideas concerning their supposed extinction. The following is just a small list of theories:

Dinosaurs starved to death; they died from overeating; they were poisoned; they became blind from cataracts and could not reproduce; mammals ate their eggs. Other causes include-volcanic dust, poisonous gases, comets, sunspots, meteorites, mass suicide, constipation, parasites, shrinking brain (and greater stupidity), slipped discs, changes in the composition of air, etc.

It is obvious that evolutionists don’t know what happened and are grasping at straws. In a recent evolutionary book on dinosaurs, ‘A New Look At the Dinosaurs,’ the author made the statement:

‘Now comes the important question. What caused all these extinctions at one particular point in time, approximately 65 million years ago? Dozens of reasons have been suggested, some serious and sensible, others quite crazy, and yet others merely as a joke. Every year people come up with new theories on this thorny problem. The trouble is that if we are to find just one reason to account for them all, it would have to explain the death, all at the same time, of animals living on land and of animals living in the sea; but, in both cases, of only some of those animals, for many of the land dwellers and many of the sea-dwellers went on living quite happily into the following period. Alas, no such one explanation exists’ (Alan Charig, p. 150).

But, one such explanation does exist. If you remove the evolutionary framework, get rid of the millions of years, and then take the Bible seriously, you will find an explanation that fits the facts and makes perfect sense:

At the time of the Flood, many of the sea creatures died, but some survived. In addition, all of the land creatures outside the Ark died, but the representatives of all the kinds that survived on the Ark lived in the new world after the Flood. Those land animals (including dinosaurs) found the new world to be much different than the one before the Flood. Due to (1) competition for food that was no longer in abundance, (2) other catastrophes, (3) man killing for food (and perhaps for fun), and (4) the destruction of habitats, etc., many species of animals eventually died out. The group of animals we now call dinosaurs just happened to die out too. In fact, quite a number of animals become extinct each year. Extinction seems to be the rule in Earth history (not the formation of new types of animals as you would expect from evolution).

Will We Ever See a Live Dinosaur?

The answer is probably not … but, then again? There are some scientists who believe a few dinosaurs may have survived in remote jungles. We are still discovering new species of animals and plants today in areas that have been too difficult to explore until now. Even natives in some countries describe beasts that fit with what might be a dinosaur.
Creationists, of course, would not be surprised if someone found a living dinosaur. However, evolutionists would then have to explain why they made dogmatic statements that man and dinosaur never lived at the same time. I suspect they would say something to the effect that this dinosaur somehow survived because it was trapped in a remote area that has not changed for millions of years. You see, no matter what is found, or how embarrassing it is to evolutionists’ ideas, they will always be able to concoct an ‘answer’ because evolution is a belief. It is not science—it is not fact!

Please also view this informative website on what the Bible says about dinosaurs, the truths about carbon dating dinosaur bones, and the lies that dinosaurs are millions of years old -

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/behemoth.html

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Dinosaurs.

New Evidence Suggests Noah's Sons Rode Flying Dinosaurs

For years, Creation Scientists have disputed how Noah was able to quickly collect millions of indigenous animals from remote, inaccessible regions of the world for a 40-day ride in his ark. New evidence from an archeological find in China supports the long held Christian belief that Noah's sons rode giant flying dinosaurs to transport duck billed platypuses from Australia, and penguins and polar bears from the Antarctic, to name a few. "Those must have been some mighty big flying dinosaurs," says Pastor Deacon Fred. "Imagine the look on Noah's face when his sons flew in for a landing with a pair of Hippos strapped to the back of one of them things! Glory to God!"

"The Lord is just amazing," says Creation Scientist, Dr. Jonathan Edwards. "Whenever Atheist scientists make a new find, they think it will hack away at our Christian beliefs. They must get pretty peeved at how sneaky our Lord is, because whenever they unearth something, it only provides more support for the historical accuracy of the Holy Bible And these flying dinosaurs they keep finding are no exception!"

Dr. Edwards explains that it would have been impossible for Noah's sons to travel to the four corners of the earth to areas that were previously inaccessible on foot. "Noah and his sons had to collect two of every single creature on the face of the planet," he says. "We're talking about a big haul here. At first we just attributed it to what Creation Scientists call, the Holy Finger Snapping Theory. That's where God snaps his fingers and just makes it so." Edwards points out that Creation Scientists are still unanimous in attributing the fact that Noah was able to load 100 million plus animals onto a 450 foot ark "in the selfsame day" (Genesis 7:13-14) to the Finger Snapping Theory. In the case of how the animals were collected from remote regions of the world in the first place however, recent archeological finds indicate that Noah's sons were able to tame giant flying dinosaurs and in turn, load them up with food supplies and hitch rides for long trips around the world to China, South America, Australia, Greenland, and the North Pole.

Creation Scientists estimate that since the Earth is only ten-thousand years old, human beings were living among dinosaurs and had plenty of time to tame them. "I would have loved to have been around to see Cain and Abel rolling around in the grass outside the Garden of Eden playing with the pet raptors their father, Adam, gave them for their birthdays," says Pastor Deacon Fred. "What a glorious time that must have been!"

Through tithing donations from Landover Baptist Church members, the Center for Creation Research was able to secure several fossilized remains of flying dinosaurs valued at over $14 million. The remains will be studied exhaustively for evidence of the leather harnessing used to secure Noah's sons for their long transcontinental journeys.

[LyingDingDong]

Re: Dinosaurs.

Did God create dinosaurs and make them extinct? If not, what are dinosaur skeletons?

It's really hard for me to grasp the meaning of your question. Are you saying: If God did not create dinosaurs and make them extinct, then what are dinosaur skeletons?

There are no dinosaur skeletons just replications of what was left of a skeleton, Fossilized rock.

In complete truth, we atheists conspire on every Thursday night to bring down Jesus Christ. We do this by creating stories and labeling them as fact. Dinosaurs is one of our most successful attempts.

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Dinosaurs.

It must interest you greatly that many times the bones of dinosaurs have not been "fossilized" (which just means the Flood fluids were not active in them at converting them to stone, probably because the temperature was lower in this part of the planet), as this great article at CreationWiki shows so greatly: http://creationwiki.org/Unfossilized_dinosaur_bones

It even shows how innacurate the carbon-14 method can be when relating to fossils pre-Flood, Glory! But still, the dating is much younger than what the so-called experts would expect from a dinosaur bone!

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs are an atheist myth created to promote the Homosexual Agenda!

Curious, your heart is in the right place this time, but you need to back that sort of statement up with some verses from the Bible if you want to convince the heathens who visit our Godly Forums. But, for a declared agnostic, I suppose you are making a good start of it.

New Evidence Suggests Noah's Sons Rode Flying Dinosaurs

Glory, Pastor Zeke, Glory! Sometimes I think we don't give enough credit in our Forums to the great work of that most Godliest of men, Pastor Deacon Fred. Sure, we at Landover think of him as our leader, our friend, our Pastor, our conscience, the head of the Deacon Director's Board, our counsellor, our spokesmen, a best selling author, a close adviser of the great President George W. Bush, a world class golfer, a master puppetteer, a radio commentator reaching millions of faithful every week who invented the 60 Second Sermon, and God's annointed representative on Earth.

But we sometimes forget his contributions to the world of science as an explorer of the deep sea and the remotest regions of the world, diving or piloting into extreme danger to uncover the evidence that supports Biblical history and creation science. Some say that his youthful exploits were the model for Indiana Jones. Of course, Pastor Deacon Fred will not confirm those rumors, since he is a modest man, not given to vainglory or boastfulness, but I heard an interview with George Lucas, many years ago, in which he admitted the same. That was before the United Jewish Appeal squelched Lucas's public statements about this matter.

The stamp of approval of a scientist of the caliber of the good Pastor Deacon to me is the final piece of evidence cementing the flying dinosaur theory as an incontrovertible fact.

Anyway, we should not be surprised to hear of more flying reptiles than just pteradactyls (though, of course, Archaeopterix is an evolutionist hoax, like Piltdown man and homo erectus). Thousands of years after the flood, in the time of Isaiah, eyewitness testimony established that fiery flying serpents roamed the African savannah:

The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them. Isaiah 30:6

Just as scientists have found the skeletal remains of the young lion and of the old lion, no doubt they will eventually find fossilized firey flying serpent skeletons, too. Heck, they probably have found them, but kept them under wraps as part of the Darwinian conspiracy. That's why it is important for us at Landover to continue to support the efforts of creation scientists who carry the flame of Truth that illuminates the world of science.

It's really hard for me to grasp the meaning of....

You need say nothing more, Ling. It's just really hard for you to grasp meaning, period.

[LyingDingDong]

Re: Dinosaurs.

You need say nothing more, Ling. It's just really hard for you to grasp meaning, period.

You're projecting.

[Ante Paveli?]

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Youse all delusional bastards! the earth is millions of years old

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Dinosaurs.

Youse all delusional bastards! the earth is millions of years old

The language of the gutter will not impress anyone here. You foreigners have probably never had the benefit of the King James V Bible (1611) written in American and thus cannot be expected to know anything about the Truth of God's Word and thus even less about Creation.

As long ago as the 17th century, the age of the earth was firmly established, even down to the date, day and time.

[Peter]

Re: Dinosaurs.

Curious, your heart is in the right place this time, but you need to back that sort of statement up with some verses from the Bible if you want to convince the heathens who visit our Godly Forums. But, for a declared agnostic, I suppose you are making a good start of it.

"Heathens" don't believe the bible, so you can't convince them with it.

[the dud]

Re: Dinosaurs.

"Heathens" don't believe the bible, so you can't convince them with it.

It's strange that there actually are people who believe the bible.

[madguitarist]

Re: Dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs, were animals that didn't make it onto the Ark, because God didn't want them there. Clearly if he didn't want them on the Ark, then they must have been demons of some sort.

[Vayhr of the Warhost]

Re: Dinosaurs.

Will We Ever See a Live Dinosaur?

The answer is probably not … but, then again? There are some scientists who believe a few dinosaurs may have survived in remote jungles.

You immoral atheist pig headed bastards need to really start listening to Mr. Lionel Luther here. He is on to something.

LISTEN UP!!! Alligators ARE dinosaurs!!!!

Did they "evolve" into chickens?




HELL NO!!!

[madguitarist]

Re: Dinosaurs.

You immoral atheist pig headed bastards need to really start listening to Mr. Lionel Luther here. He is on to something.

LISTEN UP!!! Alligators ARE dinosaurs!!!!

Did they "evolve" into chickens?




HELL NO!!!

I think he's referring to the bones that scientists are finding that don't belong to alligators, or any known living animal when he says "Dinosaur". Assuming that this is the case, then I would guess that they are the remains of demons that the Lord smote with his own hand as I stated before.