[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Proof of Adam and Eve

But what if God's word isn't true. .

What if? What if? What if this is all a dream and I will wake up on a cloud in the Eternal City never having heard of LBDD? OK, that’s that one disposed of.

This is how I see it:

I remind myself at this point that you are unlikely to say anything that Landover has done its very best to teach you.

I don't believe in God's word (the Bible) because there is little evidence to support it.

No, because you twist and rail at every proof set before you. Even you are not going to say that the Word of God, as laid out in KJV1611 is entirely and utterly false. You are at least going to agree that there are some historical facts in it. Thus your belief and my belief are merely matters of degree.

You do believe in God's word even though there is little evidence to support it.

You will not be surprised if I say that The Bible has been the source of much pleasure. In Faith, there is no need for evidence, although, as I said above, as His mysteries are revealed, there is satisfaction.

You believe because you were indoctrinated. Done

Strange as it may seem, that is not so. My early background shows no trace of religion of any sort.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Proof of Adam and Eve

Ah, now here is a question that Pastor Ezekiel would have enjoyed answering.

Poor, misguided Pastor Zeke. He showed so much promise! So much knowledge of the Word! And yet it was all a SHAM. How could he have done this to us? Still, if he will admit his sins and ask Jesus for forgiveness, Ezekiel is not yet beyond redemption.

Am I the only one who finds this "science" rather unnerving? The Lord should not be tested as He was at Massah"

Now that you mentione it, I think there is some tempting of the Lord going on with all of this so-called science.

That's excellent work, but what's the deal with the devil music? Is it some misguided attempt to get the unsaved to sit still long enough to pay attention.

Kornguy, I agree with the great, and newly promoted, Pastor Billy-Reuben, well done, even if the music is poorly selected. However, I think you should be more careful next time in attributing an African origin to Eve. Everyone knows that the Garden of Eden was in Southwest Asia, not Africa.:

And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates. 2 Genesis 10-14

[LyingDingDong]

Re: Proof of Adam and Eve

What if? What if? What if this is all a dream and I will wake up on a cloud in the Eternal City never having heard of LBDD? OK, that’s that one disposed of.

Oh that is a persuasive argument. Clearly God must exist and the Bible is all truthful. Just to make it very clear, sarcasm is a form of humor.

No, because you twist and rail at every proof set before you. Even you are not going to say that the Word of God, as laid out in KJV1611 is entirely and utterly false. You are at least going to agree that there are some historical facts in it. Thus your belief and my belief are merely matters of degree. You will not be surprised if I say that The Bible has been the source of much pleasure. In Faith, there is no need for evidence, although, as I said above, as His mysteries are revealed, there is satisfaction.

Just because there exists some truth in the Bible, doesn't mean that the Bible can be taken literally. There exists truth in Harry Potter, but that doesn't mean I believe in witchery.

Strange as it may seem, that is not so. My early background shows no trace of religion of any sort.

Then you are a very gullable person.

[Robbie]

Re: Proof of Adam and Eve

Poor misguided one, how could you liken the Bible to Harry Potter books? Setting the Lord Jesus alongside a conjurer of cheap tricks? The answer stares you in the face: the Bible is the Word of God, the all-knowing and all-perfect; Harry Potter is the word of a slightly wrinkly 40 year old woman (i.e. imperfect, subordinate not only to God, but to men as well) who is surely bound for Hellfire for encouraging witchcraft in the babies, children and mentally challenged of the world.

Ezekiel Bathfire made reference to the historical facts that even Satanists, Catylicks and Atheists must accept merely to stop you dismissing the whole Book straight off. If you can accept these historical facts easily enough (and you seem to, but how do you know they are true, given that you are of little Faith), then perhaps you should look once more at the rest of the Good Book.

I would like to thank Ezekiel Bathfire for clearing up the matter of whether this "science" malarky is actually a heresy or not, I am greatly indebted to you. My Faith in God is, of course, unshaken, and no amount of "science" or "proof" or "logical impossibility" could ever shake that Faith; but at the same time, I do believe there should be a limit to how far we test the Lord. His Word is perfect and needs no testing.