[Orelia]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

"Sea creatures left on dry land forget how to re-adapt to water and drown."

How could you even come to that conlusion? They were left stranded in horrible heat with the weight of their own bodies crushing their lungs, dehydrating thoroughly to the point where some died from it, what were you expecting? That they would find back all their strenght and swim happily all at once in a tiny "lake" of freshwater?? There is NO way an animal in such horrible condition and that is CLOSE TO DEATH would suddenly regain strenght!?

HERE IS SOMETHING FOR YOU TO READ!

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-definition.html

[StreetPreacherLew]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

This is all I need to read:

http://www.kjv1611.org/

[StreetPreacherLew]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

Jesus loves Spell Check, by the way.

[Orelia]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

Would SOMEONE please take out the Unsaved Trash?!?

We don't need your 'facts' or 'logic' here. We've got Jesus Christ and the KJV1611, His Holy Word!

Who are we to question why an omnipotent being needs a rest? If the Lord says He's tired, He's tired! End of story!

You would dismiss logic??? You would dismiss facts???
GOD ALMIGHTY gave us the ability to become the most intelligent of all beings!! God gave us a brain that can reach abilities beyond imagination, and you would spoil this INCREDIBLE gift of God? Had God wanted humans to obey blindly and nothing more, why would humans possess such amazing intellectual abilities? Not using the assets given by God is not appreciating what God gave you is it not?

Had it not been for science there would be no American army to protect America, and the horrible Natzis would of taken over without problems!
You seem to repulse logic, yet you do not mind its fruit! If you are on a forum then you possess internet, and internet was not made by people that had no education and no logic! Why are you accepting the fruits of logic if you think it is so bad?

[Orelia]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

Jesus loves Spell Check, by the way.

How can I spell check when I am infuriated at how cruel a person can be towards an animal? I have noticed I am not the only one not to spell check here, and am certain you make mistakes too!

[Orelia]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

This is all I need to read:

http://www.kjv1611.org/

Then you will never see both sides of the coin, so how can your arguments be any good? Do you not see? You have no knowledge of the world other than through these books, so how can you appreciate the world of God? How can you honour him by making use of the brain he gave you? God made man in his image, so if you refuse all that is linked to education, logic, intelligence then you are sending the belief that God possess none of those do you not? GOD IS ALMIGHTY, GOD IS KNOWLEDGE, GOD IS INTELLIGENT BEYOND ALL, it is BLASPHEMY to accept yourself as the image of God if you do not even attempt to make use of the wonderfull brain he gave you? How insulting can these be to our father and creator?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

[…]Oh and I happen to KNOW a guy from Sea World!!! He says there is no way they let you have dolphins and NO dolphins were missing, sold, gave or anything! The dolphins bring well over 20,000$ a day EACH, so there is no way they would of departed from them!

All dolphins were obtained legally from the Japanese Whaling fleet, who have a side line in supplying animals for scientific research.

Now let me explain little things to you! EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK OVER A DAY, NOR A WEEK, NOR A MONTH, NOR A YEAR AND CERTAINLY NOT OVER ONE GENERATION!!!!

Well, it’s OK for you to say that now, but before the experiments, it was purely conjecture!

Evolution works over thousands of generations, one little step at time, one tiny change at a time for over thousands of years, and it takes MILLIONS and MILLIONS of years for MAJOR changes (such as terrestrial becoming aquatic or vice versa) for it to happen!

As the earth has been around for only 6000years since Creation, I hardly think that your claims merit much attention.

THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE EVOLUTIONIST IN THE WORLD that believes a dolphin put in the desert and left to die there has ANYTHING EVEN TO DO WITH EVOLUTION!!!!!

Yes, that’s what you get from those who depart from faith in God’s word I’m afraid – shameful isn’t it?

[…]A lot of excited female stuff

– is it the wrong time of the month?

How can you disprove evolution when you clearly know nothing about it? If you don't educate yourself about it then how can you fight it??

Our fight is against those who would try to disprove the Word of God by making ludicrous statements such as those supporting that demon, Darwin.

Creasonists should study on ACTUAL professional web sites that talks about evolution, not CREATIONIST sites talking about what THEY THINK evolutionists think!

We know what they say and it is evil rubbish – we work to destroy their theories for the Glory of God!


Now, can I interest you in meeting my friend Jesus? He can help you find Salvation and perhaps a husband.

[Orelia]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

All dolphins were obtained legally from the Japanese Whaling fleet, who have a side line in supplying animals for scientific research.Well, it’s OK for you to say that now, but before the experiments, it was purely conjecture!




Now, can I interest you in meeting my friend Jesus? He can help you find Salvation and perhaps a husband.

They might have been "obtained legally", but even if you bought them there is no way any law allows you to mistreat them in such horrendous way! You can buy a pet and "own" it, but the law will punish you if you mistreat or harm it! There are laws even against mistreating animals sold as food and used in experiments as well! There are proper ways to put to death animals meant to be eaten and it is entirely illegal to torture them inhumanely before so! I can but imagine how heartless and cold it takes a person to do something so ATROCIOUS, you can not be loved by God, there is no way that God would accept such an act!


"As the earth has been around for only 6000years since Creation, I hardly think that your claims merit much attention."
I don't care what my claims mean to you, I was pointing out what evolutionists believe! If evolutionists believe that evolution happens over millions of years, then how is your "experiment" supposed to mean ANYTHING to THEM!? Thus there is no point in this "experiment" because you are not disproving what evolutionists believe of evolution, thus you are disproving NOTHING at ALL?? How can you possibly disprove evolution if you do not disprove what evolution believes in and what evolution is?You claim to try to disprove evolution for the sake of God, yet all you did was disprove what YOU thought evolution was, not what evolutionists believe! And what YOU think evolutionists believe, evolutionists ABSOLUTELY not believe in! This is not about being right or wrong about evolution, this is about disproving something using a valid experiment! Since evolution is not believed to occur within less than millions of years, then it makes no sense to "experiment" on a living creature! Do you follow what I am saying?
You believe tat animals were created all like they now are by God do you not? Well are you not aware that the U.S breed animals all the time in order to obtain genetic mutations that change the animals so that they eventually become what they want them to be? It is a little like hand-forcing and accelerating evolution, (but its human made of course, not really following nature's course), the cow that you eat, the huge pig and the chickens that you eat, they were specially bred over generations to obtain bigger animals that give more milk, eggs, have more muscle mass, look different, have different colorations never seen in the wild and so on!

(no I am not having my menses! Typical man assumption! )


"Now, can I interest you in meeting my friend Jesus? He can help you find Salvation and perhaps a husband." I have seen many original texts from sacred scriptures (thats one thing high education can do for you) I can tell you have obviously never seen, of the friends of Jesus and of people who knew him well and described his life and accomplishments I think Jesus was the greatest human that has ever lived, I also think Jesus was a good an caring man! I just wish more of his so called followers would be more like him! I doubt the Jesus that loved and cared for every creature of God, including animals, would of been cruel enough to torture in the most horrendous fashion innocent dolphins! And I don't see how he could of approved! Jesus was a brilliant man, educated, wise, filled with knowledge, compassion, love, mercy, he accepted people like they were and regardless of their beliefs, gender or race... yet many I see here shun knowledge and education, are cold and heartless, show no compassion or mercy, are cruel to animals and other humans! Is this how you honor Jesus our Christ?
Jesus spared the adulterous woman in the bible, you would certainly stone her! Perhaps you are the one in need of learning more about Jesus, because you certainly do not honor who he was!

And no I don't need a husband! I have a wonderful boyfriend who treats me with love and respect!

[Nobar King]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

Are you in the right forum?

[StreetPreacherLew]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

And no I don't need a husband! I have a wonderful boyfriend who treats me with love and respect!

Jesus also told that adulterous slut to "go and sin NO MORE" (John 8:11)

NOT "that's ok! Go ye and shack up in sin with your Unsaved Trash boyfriend"

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

[…]There are laws even against mistreating animals sold as food and used in experiments as well!

Not in Landover see here.

, there is no way that God would accept such an act!

Is that the God who drowned all but everything on earth at the time of the Flood; men women, babies, animals, etc.? I honestly think that God is not really bothered, don’t you? Or do you believe in a different God?

I was pointing out what evolutionists believe![…]And what YOU think evolutionists believe, evolutionists ABSOLUTELY not believe in! […]Do you follow what I am saying?

Not really. You see, eviloutionists are anti-God, their lies push God into an ever smaller corner if they are believed by the gullible. The Unsaved Trash (e.g. you) are all to willing, because of a public school education, a diet of sugar and popular TV, to believe anything a secular, so-called scientist will publish.

If I start from a position of interesting myself in the minutiae of the so-called science of Evilution, I have to accept that there may be something in it. Clearly, God says there isn’t. This would force a belief in 2 distinct philosophies. As Evilutionists are not out to disprove Creation science but to explain the world in their godless terms, We here at Landover are here to explain the world according to God. It is a nice bonus when our experiments knock a secular scientist out of his ivory tower, but it is not the main purpose.

You believe that animals were created all like they now are by God do you not?

No, not really. This article on Godly punctuated smiting, is really excellent and doesn’t get the recognition it deserves – you must read it! It explains so much!

I think Jesus was the greatest human that has ever lived,

Jesus is God clothed in a human body.

I doubt the Jesus that loved and cared for every creature of God

You mean like the Gadarene Swine that he drove devils into and ran over a cliff? Now that’s a good experiment we could do! We need someone possessed of demons… what are you doing Friday next?

And I don't see how He could of approved!

Didn’t you read what I have written above about the pigs?! Goodness, woman, your attention span is short.

Jesus was a brilliant man

God

, educated, wise, filled with knowledge, compassion, love, mercy,

Yes, it was He who said that He came not to bring peace but the sword wasn’t it – even Unsaved Trash look up to Characters like that.

he accepted people like they were and regardless of their beliefs, gender or race...

No He didn’t! Where did you get that rubbish from – show me the biblical reference! Christ was exceptionally clear – you believe in Him or you roast in the Eternal Fires of Hell – that’s what he said!

Is this how you honor Jesus our Christ?

Christ is part of the indivisible Holy Trinity, Christ is the same God as the God of The Old Testament. Here we follow the entire Bible, not just the fluffy-bunny bits. The philosophy that you are describing is more applicable to a middle class, lieberal, concerned women’s meeting at a West Coast Democrat Convention! It has nothing at all to do with Christianity.

And no I don't need a husband! I have a wonderful boyfriend who treats me with love and respect!

Oh! I see, I’m being lectured by a woman whose father can’t afford to marry her off to a suitable True Christian™ man and who is not busy in the kitchen or producing little soldiers! You must be a disappointment to your parents.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

Brother Bathfire, Orella has convinced me that the skeptics are simply not going to believe the results of a single study. I think the only way to get the world to awaken to the falsity of Darwinian evolution is to repeat the experiment.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

Brother Bathfire, Orella has convinced me that the skeptics are simply not going to believe the results of a single study. I think the only way to get the world to awaken to the falsity of Darwinian evolution is to repeat the experiment.

Oh dear, I thought this might happen. To be frank, I don’t think the Mojave Desert is my cup of tea and I really don’t want to go there again. However, Nephew Zebulun says that there are plenty of Pilot Whales available in The Faeroe Islands (Where is that? Not full of fairies are they? I suspect them of being fictitious like Belgium) and that we could be there chop up a few whales and be back within the day.

Zebulun showed me this –

Up to the 5 minute mark, it’s not much more than a tourist video but then the scientific cull of whales starts and continues to about 10 minutes or so! I’m sure I could persuade the locals to let me have a few. I’d only want them until they died, which, based on the last lot wouldn’t be too long.

I think I’d rather like to try whale meat – I wasn’t going to touch the last lot of dolphins when we found them as they smelled funny.

(I’m a little bothered that at around the 12 minute mark there’s some rubbish about the Luther Church or some such but I suppose that’s the price you pay for dedicated science in foreign countries.)

Oh yes, and Zebulun found this clip also about dolphin hunting, which gives a far more balanced view.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

I think I’d rather like to try whale meat – I wasn’t going to touch the last lot of dolphins when we found them as they smelled funny.

Open up any can of Star Kist tuna, and there will plenty of dolphin meat in there. Don't know about whale meat, though. You might need to special order that one.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Dolphins and Evolution!

Open up any can of Star Kist tuna, and there will plenty of dolphin meat in there. Don't know about whale meat, though. You might need to special order that one.

Knut Knutson, a great friend in Norway and True Christian supplies me with Whale meat on a regular basis. This is a lovely recipe. Think how many servings you can get out of a 100 ton Blue Whale!

Joint of Whale Meat Steeped in Red Wine Marinade

6-8 portions:
1 1/4 kilos of whale meat
3 dl red wine
1 dl vegetable oil
3 ground cloves
1/2 teaspoonful of coarsely ground pepper
2 teaspoonfuls of salt
The Marinade
3/4 litres of juices from the meat Thickening (milk and flour) 4 dessert spoonfuls of sour cream (20% fat) Sugar, colouring, Salt
It may be a good idea to bind the joint to help it keep in good shape. Place it in a small oven dish and pour the marinade over. Leave the joint there until the next day, turning it at regular intervals. Remove the joint from the dish, dry it well and rub it with salt. Cook the joint until it turns a pleasant brown colour all over, turn down the heat and add water to reach 2-3 cm up the side of the joint, approx. 3/4 litre. Let the joint simmer for about 20 minutes, turn it over and leave it for another 20 minutes. Measure enough of the juices to make enough marinade, about 3/4 litre. Add the thickening to the marinade, and then the sour cream to taste. Serve with boiled beans or other vegetables, and potatoes - boiled or fried in the pan.