[GOD=life]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

Couldn't you come up with something better than "you smell like tacos?"

burritos then?

[James Dewitt]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

@hamablahblah please go u smell like tacos!

Jocelyn, keep your distance its one of them Joo's, they are the ones that KILLED Jesus ( temporally anyway)

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

Couldn't you come up with something better than "you smell like tacos?"

Why are you harassing little girls? Are you a Catholic priest?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Jesus is NOT a Zombie!!!

I don't recall talking to you, no. Do we really have to wait 180 seconds to post? lol Any particular reasoning that you guys came up with 180 seconds?

I can't help you shorten the time between posts. If you don't like 180 seconds between posts, it could be made 600.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

Doesn't Peter call the law a yoke around our father's and our necks that we were unable to bear in Acts 15?

[Jocelyn Carolyn]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

@James Dewitt thank you for the warning sir! Jesus James Dewitt!

[hamashiachagape]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

burritos then?

yeah that makes it all better.

I don't necessarily have a problem with a site like this, as long as its kept in mind that we should bash bad ideas that the 21st century church has today. I think I can contribute to some humor around this forum in certain respects, and I hope to be able to educate at the same time.

[hamashiachagape]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

Doesn't Peter call the law a yoke around our father's and our necks that we were unable to bear in Acts 15?

I don't see that anywhere there. I see a dispute where some of the Pharisees are rebuked by Peter for trying to follow the Torah for salvational purposes.

In Acts 15, Paul tells the rest of the Disciples how to break in a Torah custom to the Gentiles. This pertains to the dietary laws. 19"It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."

In the initial setting, it is stated that in order to make it easy for the set of Gentiles to understand the Torah (these Gentiles were completely ignorant of the Torah), we need to break it into them very slowly and carefully (feeding of milk, not meat, to the baby). If you notice in 21, he actually mentions something relevant to the practice of Moses (it is never mentioned to stray away from the teachings of Moses, rather it is stated that Moses was being preached). Galations 3:21 states - " 21Is Torah, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by Torah."

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

I don't see that anywhere there. I see a dispute where some of the Pharisees are rebuked by Peter for trying to follow the Torah for salvational purposes.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.


5But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

6And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

[hamashiachagape]

Re: Jesus is NOT a Zombie!!!

I can't help you shorten the time between posts. If you don't like 180 seconds between posts, it could be made 600.

ha, gotcha, no thanks . I was just wondering why you chose 180 seconds.

[hamashiachagape]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

Jocelyn, keep your distance its one of them Joo's, they are the ones that KILLED Jesus ( temporally anyway)

Do you not realize that roughly about 10,000 Jews were Messianic during the 1st century (the remnant)? 80-85% of Jews were followers of the Messiah up until around 325 A.D. when Constantine decided to establish his own version of Christianity and turn people against the Jews, persecuting and killing any who would follow their practices. Until 325 A.D., we have a strict Torah following base of Messianics, both Jew and Gentile.

Because a few Jews decided to turn against the Messiah (which was prophecied in Isaiah 53), it does not necessarily follow that all Jews are bad.

[hamashiachagape]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

Why are you harassing little girls? Are you a Catholic priest?

Funny you mention Catholicism I've been to Catholic masses, and I have always been a bit freaked out by the iconodualism. I brought my Bible, and for the first 5 minutes had it on top of my lap, and then I noticed the priest was saying nothing in regards to what the Bible stated. I promptly put aside my Bible, and took out my notepad. I took notes on the service to get a better understanding of what they practiced and how they did so. I don't think I would follow Roman Catholicism if that was the only movement available.

[hamashiachagape]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.


5But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

6And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Thats what I was saying. The pharisees were trying to say that you had to follow Torah for salvational purposes. Peter says, "No, your salvation is through the grace of your Lord Yeshua"

The Pharisees stated in verse 1 of Acts 15 - 1Some men came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the brothers: "Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved."

WRONG!

[James Dewitt]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

Do you not realize that roughly about 10,000 Jews were Messianic during the 1st century (the remnant)? 80-85% of Jews were followers of the Messiah up until around 325 A.D. when Constantine decided to establish his own version of Christianity and turn people against the Jews, persecuting and killing any who would follow their practices. Until 325 A.D., we have a strict Torah following base of Messianics, both Jew and Gentile.

Because a few Jews decided to turn against the Messiah (which was prophecied in Isaiah 53), it does not necessarily follow that all Jews are bad.

Well that's just ducky, 85% of the Joo's hate Jesus. One good man, and what do you do beat him half to death, make him carry a cross all over town where you people tormented him and then you nail Jesus to the very cross that you made him carry. And if that's not bad enough while the poor man is dieing you stab him in the side with a spear. Whats the matter with you people wasn't he in enough pain for you?

[hamashiachagape]

Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us.

Well that's just ducky, 85% of the Joo's hate Jesus. One good man, and what do you do beat him half to death, make him carry a cross all over town where you people tormented him and then you nail Jesus to the very cross that you made him carry. And if that's not bad enough while the poor man is dieing you stab him in the side with a spear. Whats the matter with you people wasn't he in enough pain for you?

No, Messianic Jews = Jews that believe that Yeshua (Jesus) is the Messiah

And that was the Roman government that issued that punishment (remember Pilate?)