The fallacy of Atheism

[Unfalsifiable]

Okay Gentlemen, I think it is time for us to run over Atheism and the attacks it makes on Christianity one more time.

Now, Atheism is the assertion that there is no God, no God at all, nada. Based entirely on the fact that the believers have never experienced a God themselves and that everyone else is lying. Now ask yourself, on its own, does this belief make any sense at all as a belief?

No, of course it doesn't. Humans have no idea about what exists smaller then the Quantum Realm and no idea what is bigger then their idea of the Universe, some galaxies collected together. Humans are remarkably limited. They cannot think outside of cause and effect, time or space. They can't even think up an objective view on their existence without God. The Philosopher Wittgenstein was right when he said that the Human must only deal with what it knows about, and cosmology was not one of these things (unless that man was religious).

Humans absolutely minuscule perspective on the Universe means that to assert "There is no God" is a huge, blind, wild and foolhardy stab in the dark, based on beyond microscopic foundation and frankly illogical. With such a small view of the universe on show to them, how are they to know that there is no God? This doesn't do much to prove the one true God, but it really shows you what we are dealing with when we deal with atheists. Utter, utter, foolhardy, arrogant retards.

Now, we must deal with the two ways atheists attack Christians:

Way one is that they try and make Christianity seem illogical, or point out what they think are inconsistencies in the Bible. Let me tell them now, there are no inconsistencies in God OR the Bible. God's unlimited majesty is unfalsifiable, and therefore he can do anything he wishes without you being able to touch him, logically.

Way two is that they admit Christianity as a theory is untouchable, and go down to route of explaining why "Christianity is most likely not the answer". However again, this is a logical inconsistency. The fact is that to know whether the answer is Christianity, you have to have faith, and once you do this GOD, HIMSELF, WILL TELL YOU. Tell you without words, without actions, he will do it in his own way. UNLESS you have experienced that blessing of faith you yourself will not be able to know why Christianity IS the way, so you can't say that it ISN'T the way without being an ignoramus. However if you do have true faith, accept God, and he lets you know he is the way, then YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE CHRISTIANITY WAS NOT THE WAY, and if you do then you obviously were not with true faith.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The fallacy of Atheism

Okay Gentlemen, I think it is time for us to run over Atheism

I feel it would be easier and more effective to run over an atheist.

Unfalsifiable, your argument has merit for the Unsaved, but the Unsaved are life-forms of little or no intellect. Sophisticated diatribe merely leaves them reaching for saturated fats, high sugar drinks, and bland TV programs.

You have shown that Faith is all anyone needs. Perhaps the Unsaved might like to copy and paste your rhetoric into their "My Documents/God" folder and have it as a sort of token that someone, greater than they, can work out these things.

Nevertheless, I hope that atheists will appear out of the woodwork and from under stones and read the above. It'll do them good.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: The fallacy of Atheism

Okay Gentlemen, I think it is time for us to run over Atheism and the attacks it makes on Christianity one more time.

Now, Atheism is the assertion that there is no God, no God at all, nada. Based entirely on the fact that the believers have never experienced a God themselves and that everyone else is lying. Now ask yourself, on its own, does this belief make any sense at all as a belief?

No, of course it doesn't. Humans have no idea about what exists smaller then the Quantum Realm and no idea what is bigger then their idea of the Universe, some galaxies collected together. Humans are remarkably limited. They cannot think outside of cause and effect, time or space. They can't even think up an objective view on their existence without God. The Philosopher Wittgenstein was right when he said that the Human must only deal with what it knows about, and cosmology was not one of these things (unless that man was religious).

Humans absolutely minuscule perspective on the Universe means that to assert "There is no God" is a huge, blind, wild and foolhardy stab in the dark, based on beyond microscopic foundation and frankly illogical. With such a small view of the universe on show to them, how are they to know that there is no God? This doesn't do much to prove the one true God, but it really shows you what we are dealing with when we deal with atheists. Utter, utter, foolhardy, arrogant retards.

Now, we must deal with the two ways atheists attack Christians:

Way one is that they try and make Christianity seem illogical, or point out what they think are inconsistencies in the Bible. Let me tell them now, there are no inconsistencies in God OR the Bible. God's unlimited majesty is unfalsifiable, and therefore he can do anything he wishes without you being able to touch him, logically.

Way two is that they admit Christianity as a theory is untouchable, and go down to route of explaining why "Christianity is most likely not the answer". However again, this is a logical inconsistency. The fact is that to know whether the answer is Christianity, you have to have faith, and once you do this GOD, HIMSELF, WILL TELL YOU. Tell you without words, without actions, he will do it in his own way. UNLESS you have experienced that blessing of faith you yourself will not be able to know why Christianity IS the way, so you can't say that it ISN'T the way without being an ignoramus. However if you do have true faith, accept God, and he lets you know he is the way, then YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE CHRISTIANITY WAS NOT THE WAY, and if you do then you obviously were not with true faith.

What? Are you a Catholic? You're fighting atheists with logic!?! Christians do not rely on logic! We rely on faith!! Logic is use of the limited faculties God has given us to make our way through this life in the hope we arrive at salvation. You know, so we don't cross the street when a 16 wheeler is speeding down the road. Logic is our tool for surviving this world, not for contemplation of the next. For that He gave us the power of the Holy Spirit and the Gift of Faith. True Christians have that in abundance. You, my friend, need to do some praying.

[Joshua Brooks]

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I feel it would be easier and more effective to run over an atheist.

Unfalsifiable, your argument has merit for the Unsaved, but the Unsaved are life-forms of little or no intellect. Sophisticated diatribe merely leaves them reaching for saturated fats, high sugar drinks, and bland TV programs.

You have shown that Faith is all anyone needs. Perhaps the Unsaved might like to copy and paste your rhetoric into their "My Documents/God" folder and have it as a sort of token that someone, greater than they, can work out these things.

Nevertheless, I hope that atheists will appear out of the woodwork and from under stones and read the above. It'll do them good.

Besides, everyone knows that there is no such thing as a "real atheist". They all hate Jesus and you can't hate something you don't believe in deep down inside. You don't see them mocking Darth Vader and preaching against the Sith religion or any other character or belief system that would be considered cruel and heartless by secular standards. Why else would they care if we teach creationism in schools? Why would anything matter to them? They are gonna die, their children are going to die, the Sun is gonna nova, and their is nothing but this short life. Everything should be pointless and irrelevant to such people. But, no, they hate Jesus because they were raised Catholic. All atheist are former Catholics, you know. They just can't separate the anal buggery from the concept of God.

[Roberta]

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Write on, bro!

[Unfalsifiable]

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What? Are you a Catholic? You're fighting atheists with logic!?! Christians do not rely on logic! We rely on faith!! Logic is use of the limited faculties God has given us to make our way through this life in the hope we arrive at salvation. You know, so we don't cross the street when a 16 wheeler is speeding down the road. Logic is our tool for surviving this world, not for contemplation of the next. For that He gave us the power of the Holy Spirit and the Gift of Faith. True Christians have that in abundance. You, my friend, need to do some praying.

I don't get it, I do have faith, and I am using logic to survive in this world. What's your problem? I was just running over a few atheists theories for all to see how stupid they are. Did I force you to read them? Do I want you to worship them? Does that impact faith?

Needless to say, don't apologise for your outburst, you are already forgiven.

[Brother Enoch]

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I don't get it, I do have faith, and I am using logic to survive in this world. What's your problem? I was just running over a few atheists theories for all to see how stupid they are. Did I force you to read them? Do I want you to worship them? Does that impact faith?

Needless to say, don't apologise for your outburst, you are already forgiven.

Simply intended to convey that atheism cannot be countered by logic, but only with faith. If I caused offence, I apologize.

[Unfalsifiable]

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Simply intended to convey that atheism cannot be countered by logic, but only with faith. If I caused offence, I apologize.

Atheism itself is illogical and only an ignoramus would swear by it due to the fact that the chances of it being correct are unimaginably small in probabilities terms.

Having faith will show you just how wrong atheism is, but that doesn't mean atheism is logical! Just because you happen to be able to counter atheism without logic, doesn't then entail that atheism is logical! Atheism very much remains illogical as a conclusion. I see now that you would beg to differ when you say: "atheism cannot be countered by logic" which is simply not true, unbacked up and an unfloundering statement of support of atheism. The (simple) reasoning of this was in my original post, which you have hastened to ignore.

Hope this isn't too taxing for you, champ, because it is derailing the thread.

[Brother Enoch]

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Atheism itself is illogical and only an ignoramus would swear by it due to the fact that the chances of it being correct are unimaginably small in probabilities terms.

Having faith will show you just how wrong atheism is, but that doesn't mean atheism is logical! Just because you happen to be able to counter atheism without logic, doesn't then entail that atheism is logical! Atheism very much remains illogical as a conclusion. I see now that you would beg to differ when you say: "atheism cannot be countered by logic" which is simply not true, unbacked up and an unfloundering statement of support of atheism. The (simple) reasoning of this was in my original post, which you have hastened to ignore.

Hope this isn't too taxing for you, champ, because it is derailing the thread.

If you claim Christianity can be derived through logic, then you deny the necessity of Faith, the very bedrock of Christianity. This is contrary to the belief of all true Christians, and contrary to the message of the Holy Bible.

Do you wish to restate your position, champ?

[Joshua Brooks]

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If you claim Christianity can be derived through logic, then you deny the necessity of Faith, the very bedrock of Christianity. This is contrary to the belief of all true Christians, and contrary to the message of the Holy Bible.

Do you wish to restate your position, champ?

Faith is based on a foundation of experience. In other words, if a weatherman were to consistently predict the right weather I might have faith that it will rain tomorrow if he says it will. What you call faith is merely acceptance verses denial. No, I have heard Jesus's voice, read His book, and I have seen His hand in all creation. It is my unwavering faith that tell me that the so-called professionals are wrong about the voice I hear.

I have absolute faith in Jesus, not merely blind acceptance. Who do you think we are? Hindus? Evolutionist? Shintos? Radiologist? Scientologist?

No, sir! We are True Christians!!!

[SonOfMorning]

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I am a true christian...as true as they come, and I hate negroes. The lord hates the darkness, and who better embodies darkness than the blacks?

[Unfalsifiable]

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If you claim Christianity can be derived through logic, then you deny the necessity of Faith, the very bedrock of Christianity. This is contrary to the belief of all true Christians, and contrary to the message of the Holy Bible.

Do you wish to restate your position, champ?

Oh sorry, I mistook stupidity for what I thought was a pro-atheist undertone! How close those two are! Your replies to me have just been air-headed and unable to understand the most simple of posts, whilst we were running over atheism your poor little mind was quibbling over the use of logic! Despite it being totally valid.

Obviously, you wont find "you can derive Christianity through logic" in anything I've said (Despite your last post's assertion!), merely atheism is an illogical conclusion to draw. In logic, because x is y doesn't necessarily mean y is x and therefore Christianity as a logical conclusion is left out of it. Which is handy, because logic never need enter that fray. Atheism falls foul of logic, because it is a logical conclusion to draw. In previous posts you have claimed atheism can't be touched by logic, and we shouldn't try because we are Christian. Which obviously made me think you were an atheist, but now I understand you're dumb, and probably didn't mean what you said, you just said it. Are you female?

[Brother Enoch]

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Obviously, you wont find "you can derive Christianity through logic" in anything I've said (Despite your last post's assertion!), merely atheism is an illogical conclusion to draw.

And if lack of belief in God is illogical, then belief in God must be logical, yes?

In logic, because x is y doesn't necessarily mean y is x and therefore Christianity as a logical conclusion is left out of it.

You are referring to logic circles rather than simple statements of truth. A tree is green thing therefore all things green are trees. Absolutely falsifiable. That is not what we are talking about, lay off the weed. If logic says disbelief in God is contrary to logic then the opposite cannot be falsifiable. And since that is your contention, the necessity of faith is removed.

Which is handy, because logic never need enter that fray.

I agree you never employed it.

Atheism falls foul of logic, because it is a logical conclusion to draw.

Atheism is a logical conclusion, therefore its illogical? Seriously man, put the bong away.

In previous posts you have claimed atheism can't be touched by logic, and we shouldn't try because we are Christian.

Indeed.

Which obviously made me think you were an atheist,

Hope I didn't make you hard.

but now I understand you're dumb, and probably didn't mean what you said, you just said it. Are you female?

Ah, guess I did.

[Unfalsifiable]

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And if lack of belief in God is illogical, then belief in God must be logical, yes?

You are referring to logic circles rather than simple statements of truth. A tree is green thing therefore all things green are trees. Absolutely falsifiable. That is not what we are talking about, lay off the weed. If logic says disbelief in God is contrary to logic then the opposite cannot be falsifiable. And since that is your contention, the necessity of faith is removed.

This makes no sense at all, what you are saying, but I'll give you some benefit of the doubt and just deal with your conclusion.

Of course, the simple bit you're missing is the obvious logical conclusion of agnosticism (because you're retarded). A disbelief in God is illogical, but then you have an intermediate step in agnosticism, fool. I think it is pretty obvious why God left logic on the fence, to let people decide, heaven or hell. Belief in one particular God or belief in no God at all remain fairly illogical in regards to probability (before faith, and faith in atheism obviously proves nothing).

Anyway, atheist, why don't you post on the actual subject matter?

[Brother Enoch]

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(because you're retarded)


... fool.



...Anyway, atheist, ?

I must apologize. I have apparently caused you to have an aneurism that caused your brain -such as it is- to revert to what it was at the age of 14.

As for agnosticism, why is this the first time you mentioned it? Were we supposed to infer your intended message from tossed chicken bones or something? Or do you just hasten to change the goalposts when scored upon?