Do you all really believe...

[AmenCorner]

...in the nonsense that you type?

I have seen and heard some pretty ridiculous things in my life, but this website just about takes it. Getting AIDS from talking to/looking at homosexuals? Killing others who have different BELIEFS than you? I capitalize beliefs, because that's all this is...a belief. What age do kids become Goths??

You believe that a book, written by man, is the word of God, but do you have any proof of that? No, you don't, because you if did...then it would be fact, and you can't argue fact.

To be quite honest, I was a little horrified that all the nonsense you spew onto others was really serious, however, I can't help but laugh a little. I mean, you guys do realize the number of different religions, and books (all created by man by the way) that are out there right? Sure, you claim to pre-date all of that, but once again...do you have proof?

All the proof that you'll never be able to show aside, what is so funny to me is that you worship a diety that doesn't seem to be a very nice, or intelligent fellow to begin with. You'd think that if "God" cared so much about everyone, there wouldn't be so much war, disease, famine, and poverty all around the world. You'd think that if "God" was so intelligent, he'd find a better way to inform people of what he sees fit, instead of showing himself to a handful of people on the top of some mountain.

If "God" is so infallible, you'd think that there wouldn't be so many religions and other "Gods" to follow out there, since you know...we were made in his image and all.

I'm really interested in how you all will break down, and critisize everything in my post, but refute nothing.

[Deaner]

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I'm really interested in how you all will break down, and critisize everything in my post, but refute nothing.

Friend, your problem is a severe lack of faith; you have an inability to believe in something that's invisible. If the Bible is not the inerrant word of God, then how come the very first words in it are "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth".

Now if that wasn't true how could we be here having this conversation?

[Filet-o-fish]

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Well, the thing is, those that are Truly Saved follow the King James Bible to the letter, and any one of them here will tell you this. There are no abstract interpretations, there are no abstentions from following a single psalm or verse. Truly, you are not like to come across any others so devoted regardless of how hard you look.

You'd think that if "God" cared so much about everyone, there wouldn't be so much war, disease, famine, and poverty all around the world.

And these are all attributed to the free will that God has given to all humans--save disease which can be traced to lieberals and homersexuals.

If "God" is so infallible, you'd think that there wouldn't be so many religions and other "Gods" to follow out there, since you know...we were made in his image and all.

And this is all again because of free will. If one wishes to worship a false idol, it is his or her choice to damn him- or herself to Hell's pits, for God is generous.

I would, however, advise you to perhaps lighten up some degree. We wouldn't want you to go popping an artery, now.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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You may wish to consider this post, my small contribution as a Biblical Scientist towards helping the Unsaved Trash (you) on the road to righteousness.

Once accepted, the rest flows: God wishes it, we point it out. It's very simple really.

Your anger towards Landover Baptist Church is entirely unwarranted. If you have a problem, you have a problem with God and, as God always wins - you lose.

Now what aspects of True Christianity interest you most and what is your favorite Bible verse? (Quotations only from KJV1611 please, other so-called Bibles are the work of satan.)

[Mister Brasil]

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...in the nonsense that you type?

Of course not. I really believe all the sense that I type.

I have seen and heard some pretty ridiculous things in my life, but this website just about takes it. Getting AIDS from talking to/looking at homosexuals?

Some of them spit when they talk. Some others can be terrifyingly charming.

Killing others who have different BELIEFS than you? I capitalize beliefs, because that's all this is...a belief.

The Bible advocates the death penalty for certain crimes-- and no, they aren't crimes of belief, but crimes of behavior. Lusting after the same sex without acting on that lust leads only to a long vacation in the lake of fire; it is the consummation of that lust that calls for the death penalty.

You can go on and on about your moral relativism, but you're not convincing me. Criminals must be punished. Serial killers aren't allowed to practice their hobby just because they happen to believe that murder is okay. Likewise, adulterers shouldn't be allowed to rub their privates over everything they can get their hands on just because they happen to believe that there is no God.

What age do kids become Goths??

Actually, I was just wondering the same thing! Do you have any ideas?

You believe that a book, written by man, is the word of God, but do you have any proof of that? No, you don't, because you if did...then it would be fact, and you can't argue fact.

Psalm 33:4
For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.

That seems pretty clear to me. I agree with you-- it's hard to argue with facts. However, from what I see of trolls and heathens washing into these boards, there are a lot of mentally imbalanced sinners who are willfully obtuse.

Sure, you claim to pre-date all of that, but once again...do you have proof?

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 4:3
And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.

Worship of God goes back to the second generation on Earth.

You'd think that if "God" cared so much about everyone, there wouldn't be so much war, disease, famine, and poverty all around the world.

What better way to punish the unfaithful than with poverty? How could men be free to love God without disease?

You'd think that if "God" was so intelligent, he'd find a better way to inform people of what he sees fit, instead of showing himself to a handful of people on the top of some mountain.

Actually, He did. Have you heard the Good News?

If "God" is so infallible, you'd think that there wouldn't be so many religions and other "Gods" to follow out there, since you know...we were made in his image and all.

If there weren't any temptations along the way, our love of God wouldn't be worth very much, would it? It would be the simple, animal love of a newborn infant for his mother. The Adversary has placed many traps on man's path, and some weak-willed sinners get caught.

I'm really interested in how you all will break down, and critisize everything in my post, but refute nothing.

Well, I hope I can say that I've been polite, and tried to answer your questions as honestly and clearly as I can. I believe I have, in fact, refuted everything.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Friend, welcome to God's favorite forum. I'm so happy that He has called you here today. Great Blessings are in store for you!! Glory!!

I'd like to urge you to take a look at THIS thread for new posters. It may help clarify why we take the stances that we do.

I know that Landover must seem like a strange and wondrous place to an unsaved wad of trash like yourself, but given time, proper Tithing, and the Holy Spirit, you too might become Saved© by the sweet blood of Jesus.

Why not tell us about yourself? How old are you? What church do you attend? What sorts of perversion and sin do you wallow in? Don't hold back son. Jesus reads this forum every day.

[AmenCorner]

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Friend, your problem is a severe lack of faith; you have an inability to believe in something that's invisible. If the Bible is not the inerrant word of God, then how come the very first words in it are "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth".

Now if that wasn't true how could we be here having this conversation?

Once again, what proof is there of "God" actually saying that? Because some MAN who "spoke to God" said he did?

When it really comes down to it, there is no proof, nor will there ever be. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" is just what some MAN wrote down., not proof of there being a "God".

Perhaps I do have "severe lack of faith" and perhaps I'll burn for all eternity because I didn't get down on my hands and knees to pray to an invisible diety, but after looking around the world, and written history...what would make me want to believe in that?

I mean, it's pretty clear you have a strong intolerance for anyone who is different than you. Women, homosexuals, people who are not of the white race...etc, and why? All because something a MAN wrote? It just seems like something I wouldn't want to believe in.

Now of course, if one day, "God" showed himself to me, then I would have no other choice then to believe in him...but we all know that will never happen of course. "God" is too busy creating disasters, and diseases, and waging war on all the sinners out there, to really give people a real reason to believe.

[Roberta]

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Isn't Katrina proof? Aren't the earthquakes and fires in CA proof? Wasn't 9/11 proof? Don't most people consider these events "Acts of God"?

We were given the examples of Sodom and Gomorrah. How much more wrath does God need to invoke before His Word is believed?

[AmenCorner]

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Friend, welcome to God's favorite forum. I'm so happy that He has called you here today. Great Blessings are in store for you!! Glory!!

I'd like to urge you to take a look at THIS thread for new posters. It may help clarify why we take the stances that we do.

I know that Landover must seem like a strange and wondrous place to an unsaved wad of trash like yourself, but given time, proper Tithing, and the Holy Spirit, you too might become Saved© by the sweet blood of Jesus.

Why not tell us about yourself? How old are you? What church do you attend? What sorts of perversion and sin do you wallow in? Don't hold back son. Jesus reads this forum every day.

First off, I'd like to say that "He" didn't lead me anywhere. I saw a link to this forum, about a ridiculous thread on something along the lines of "Will I get AIDS if I see the new Batman, because it has Heath Ledger is in it, and he played a gay guy once in some other movie".

At first I laughed because, who in their right mind believes that you can get AIDS from watching a movie, but apon further review of the other forums, I was horrified to find out that you guys actually believe some of these things.

I thought to myself, man, I should really make an account and troll these guys a little bit, but then decided I was truely interested in finding out why you guys have a such a hardcore belief in logically ridiculous ideas.

It just seems to me that you are all the exact opposite of what "God" would want, assuming there is a "God". And to be honest, if this IS what "God" wants, I'm not sure I would want to be a part of that. It all seems pretty hateful and cruel.

And also, is "God" really that vain that he needs every human that ever lived, to base everything they ever do around him? And if so, how does "God" benefit from any of it? Obviously there is no really way to offer anything to "God", or communicate with him...so what does he stand to gain by us selflessly giving up our lives to him?

To answer a few of your questions though. I'm 26 and according to you, I probably "sin" a thousand times a day...so who am I to really say what I "wallow" in. As for favorite scripture? I don't have any. That'd be like me qouting my favorite lines out of some ridiculous Harry Potter book or something. I just find it very hard to believe that because someone claimed to have written the word of "God", that they actually did...and even harder to believe that so many people followed that all these years. Think about how ridiculous it would be for someone to do that in this day and age.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

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I have seen and heard some pretty ridiculous things in my life, but this website just about takes it. Getting AIDS from talking to/looking at homosexuals?

If you want to go hang out with your queer buddies, be my guest. I'm playing this one safe, because I don't want to catch the plague that God brought on them for their sins. BTW, you might want to stay away from Key West for a few days; God is sending another hurricane there as a warning to the sodomites.

Killing others who have different BELIEFS than you? I capitalize beliefs, because that's all this is...a belief.

What's the problem? The Bible only instructs us to kill the unsaved.

What age do kids become Goths??

That varies from kid to kid, but it's always too soon.

You believe that a book, written by man, is the word of God

Only the first five Books, plus some direct quotes of the Father and of Jesus, are the word of God. The rest was divinely inspired, but written by several men. And then translated into English, again under divine inspiration, by men in 1611.

... do you have any proof of that?

Yes, we do, it is called prophesy that has been fulfilled. You can read about them here. Now, where's your proof that the Bible is not 100% correct?

however, I can't help but laugh a little.

I laugh a little, too, when I think about the eternal agonies you will undergo when you are burining in Hell.

I mean, you guys do realize the number of different religions, and books (all created by man by the way) that are out there right?

At last count, according to Professor Grinnel of the Landover Christian University School of Divinity, we had catalogued 137,914 various false religions practiced in human history. So I'd say that, yes, we realize the number. What does that have to do with whether our religion is correct?

Sure, you claim to pre-date all of that, but once again...do you have proof?

We make no such claim. We trace Baptist Christianity back to John the Baptist. There were plenty of false religions before John's time.

what is so funny to me is that you worship a diety that doesn't seem to be a very nice, or intelligent fellow to begin with.

Nice? When did we say God was nice? The Lord our God is a jealous God. As for intelligence, when you figure out how to create a universe, you can come back here and discuss who is smarter, you or God. Until then, shove a sock in it. Your immortal soul is at stake.

You'd think that if "God" cared so much about everyone, there wouldn't be so much war, disease, famine, and poverty all around the world.

I don't see the connection here. God has made it possible for everyone to earn eternal happiness by His side simply by accepting Jesus. Compared to that, what happens on Earth is hardly important.

You'd think that if "God" was so intelligent, he'd find a better way to inform people of what he sees fit, instead of showing himself to a handful of people on the top of some mountain.

But then salvation would mean nothing; it wouldn't be an act of faith at all. And, without faith, there is no salvation:


But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.... Romans 3:21-24

If "God" is so infallible, you'd think that there wouldn't be so many religions and other "Gods" to follow out there, since you know...we were made in his image and all.

In his image doesn't mean exactly like him. Is that really a hard concept for you to grasp?

I'm really interested in how you all will break down, and critisize everything in my post, but refute nothing.

See, I managed to refute it all.

[AmenCorner]

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Isn't Katrina proof? Aren't the earthquakes and fires in CA proof? Wasn't 9/11 proof? Don't most people consider these events "Acts of God"?

We were given the examples of Sodom and Gomorrah. How much more wrath does God need to invoke before His Word is believed?

Not sure how you can provide any of these as proof of anything other than nature and fanatisicism. Hurricanes are just another weather pattern. Hundreds of hurricanes form naturally each year and never hit anything but open water, yet one or two comes ashore and it's an act of god? By the way, I don't call it an act of god, I call it a natural disaster.

9/11 was plotted by a group of extreme islamic fundamentalists because our country allows people to believe in what they want to believe in. In fact, is how they felt any different from how many of you feel? They believe in what they believe in, and if you don't believe in it...then you should die. I'm pretty positive I've seen several occasions of that being said on this very forum. Once again though, hardly an act of god.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

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Not sure how you can provide any of these as proof of anything other than nature and fanatisicism.

Can you prove it isn't God behind the scenes?

9/11 was plotted by a group of extreme islamic fundamentalists because our country allows people to believe in what they want to believe in.

Don't point your fingers in our direction on this one. We don't believe in llowing people to believe in what they want to believe in. We believe in teaching the 10 Commandments in our schools, and the rest of the Bible, to.

They believe in what they believe in, and if you don't believe in it...then you should die.

They aren't killing people on principle, they are killing people because they're so stupid they believe they're getting 72 virgins with appetizing vaginas. They're no better than are contract killers in the mob.

I'm pretty positive I've seen several occasions of that being said on this very forum. Once again though, hardly an act of god.

I'll gladly kill any Muslim terrorists that come my way, and I'm sure God would assist me. In fact, there's been some talk at Landover about holding a terrorist roundup in Muslim communities.

[AmenCorner]

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You can't prove they are not punishments inflicted by God.

And you can't prove that they are...you can only believe. See the problem here?

I'll gladly kill any Muslim terrorists, and I'm sure God would stand with me as I did it.

Just as their "God" stands with them as they do it us and others? If you don't see how that is a warped sense of view, I really don't know what to say.

Basically what most of you are saying is that you would rather just blindly follow something that sounds good, instead of believing in things that are good. I'd kill a terrorist too, not because of "God", but because there is nothing right about it, in any sense...and guess what? I wouldn't expect to be patted on the back by my invisible buddy up in the sky. Killing in the name of something that you can't even see is never right, and that is terrorism. That goes for any terrorist, whether it's Muslim, or Christian.

And when I say blindly follow, I mean just that. Unless "God" came to you personally, and you caught that shit on video, then you are blindly following the word of another man, who "claims" as to have spoken with "God".

And that's what this really all comes down to. Noone can ever really prove any of this to be true or false, that is why I choose to be Agnostic. Now, I saw your silly definiton of what an Agnostic is, and I assure you that I do not "worship" Satan, let alone any other kind of invisible deity. I don't deny that there may just be an invisble man watching out for me, but until I see a shred of evidence that there is, I'm certainly not going to give me life up to it, and I'm CERTAINLY NOT going give other's lives up to it.

And one more thing, kind of a curious question to all of you. Why do you care so much what other people believe? If you believe in a "God", and you pray to him or whatever you guys like to do to stay in his favor, so that when you die, you go to "heaven"...then what does it matter what path other people choose to take? How does this affect you in anyway?

[Roberta]

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Not sure how you can provide any of these as proof of anything other than nature and fanatisicism. Hurricanes are just another weather pattern. Hundreds of hurricanes form naturally each year and never hit anything but open water, yet one or two comes ashore and it's an act of god? By the way, I don't call it an act of god, I call it a natural disaster.

9/11 was plotted by a group of extreme islamic fundamentalists because our country allows people to believe in what they want to believe in. In fact, is how they felt any different from how many of you feel? They believe in what they believe in, and if you don't believe in it...then you should die. I'm pretty positive I've seen several occasions of that being said on this very forum. Once again though, hardly an act of god.

How do you account for the fact that "natural disasters" only occur in dens of depravity? We have never even had a bad thunderstorm in Freehold. MA will be next; just wait and mark my words!

[Roberta]

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I will not take a chance by clicking upon your link. I have McAfee but I know it's not immune to the HIV worm. Go spread the AIDS somewhere else, nancy boy!