[Levi Jones]

Re: False Religions And Cults

ok people here's the deal. It is by chance you were born in America, the God fearing country. You all have happened to have been brought up in a christian faith, you know what it's like not to have been brought up in a particular faith because you're not a muslim, youre not a hindu. why arent you a hindu? Because you happen to have been brought up in America, not in India. If you happened to have been brought up in India, you'd be a Hindu. if you'dve been brought up in Denmark during the time of the vikings, you'd be believing in Wotan and Thor, if youda been brought up in classical Greece, you'd be believing in Zeus, if youda been brought up in central africa, you'd believe in the great juju of the mountain.

They would all go to hell except the follower of Christ. The Bible explains that we are the chosen ones.

Romans 8:29-30 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

stop judging folks and do as you preach by leaving the judging up to God. accept and love all human beings as children of Him no matter what they choose to believe.

Wait, I thought you were just trying to make a point that our God is superstitious hooey and it all depends on where you grew up and were raised.

Now you seem to be telling us how to do Christianity. Which is it?

[calyboy]

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They would all go to hell except the follower of Christ. The Bible explains that we are the chosen ones.

Romans 8:29-30 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.



Wait, I thought you were just trying to make a point that our God is superstitious hooey and it all depends on where you grew up and were raised.

Now you seem to be telling us how to do Christianity. Which is it?

i said "do as you preach". there are alot of great things about Christianity. but when you start talking down on others telling them theyre going to hell and that they are an abomination to God (which you do) then youre disobeying your God because (as you have been taught) God will do the judging. all you have to do is love all as Jesus did.(as you claim) and treat others as you would have them treat you. do not judge people!

[Cranky Old Man]

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i said "do as you preach". there are alot of great things about Christianity. but when you start talking down on others telling them theyre going to hell and that they are an abomination to God (which you do) then youre disobeying your God because (as you have been taught) God will do the judging. all you have to do is love all as Jesus did.(as you claim) and treat others as you would have them treat you. do not judge people!

He is trying to save your soul you ungrateful brat. You should be thanking him instead of whining about it!

And you are completely wrong on the judging:

Leviticus 19:15 "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

2nd Timothy 4:1-2 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."

[Levi Jones]

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i said "do as you preach". there are alot of great things about Christianity. but when you start talking down on others telling them theyre going to hell and that they are an abomination to God (which you do)

How is it "talking down to people" if it's true? We preach just like the Bible tells us to.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

then youre disobeying your God because (as you have been taught) God will do the judging.

In the way that we are not to seek vengeance, that is correct.

all you have to do is love all as Jesus did.

Not exactly. Here is a short (non comprehensive) list of people who will go to hell, according to the New Testament.

Unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful, fearful, unbelieving, the abominable, murderers, whoremongers, sorcerers, idolaters, all liars, them that defile themselves with mankind, menstealers and perjured persons.

(as you claim) and treat others as you would have them treat you. do not judge people!

I personally would want someone to tell me if I was on the wrong path, so I do treat others as I want to be treated.

As for judgment, here is a list from Reverend Jim's sermon

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1st Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man

[AuraLayne]

Re: False Religions And Cults

"Wiccans (wickedans) aka Witches
Submitted by: the
worship: Satan"


This is sad, Christians.


Bide within the Law you must, in perfect Love and perfect Trust.
Live you must and let to live, fairly take and fairly give.

For tread the Circle thrice about to keep unwelcome spirits out.
To bind the spell well every time, let the spell be said in rhyme.

Light of eye and soft of touch, speak you little, listen much.
Honor the Old Ones in deed and name,
let love and light be our guides again.

Deosil go by the waxing moon, chanting out the joyful tune.
Widdershins go when the moon doth wane,
and the werewolf howls by the dread wolfsbane.

When the Lady's moon is new, kiss the hand to Her times two.
When the moon rides at Her peak then your heart's desire seek.

Heed the North winds mighty gale, lock the door and trim the sail.
When the Wind blows from the East, expect the new and set the feast.

When the wind comes from the South, love will kiss you on the mouth.
When the wind whispers from the West, all hearts will find peace and rest.

Nine woods in the Cauldron go, burn them fast and burn them slow.
Birch in the fire goes to represent what the Lady knows.

Oak in the forest towers with might, in the fire it brings the God's
insight. Rowan is a tree of power causing life and magick to flower.

Willows at the waterside stand ready to help us to the Summerland.
Hawthorn is burned to purify and to draw faerie to your eye.

Hazel-the tree of wisdom and learning adds its strength to the bright fire burning.
White are the flowers of Apple tree that brings us fruits of fertility.

Grapes grow upon the vine giving us both joy and wine.
Fir does mark the evergreen to represent immortality seen.

Elder is the Lady's tree burn it not or cursed you'll be.
Four times the Major Sabbats mark in the light and in the dark.

As the old year starts to wane the new begins, it's now Samhain.
When the time for Imbolc shows watch for flowers through the snows.

When the wheel begins to turn soon the Beltane fires will burn.
As the wheel turns to Lamas night power is brought to magick rite.

Four times the Minor Sabbats fall use the Sun to mark them all.
When the wheel has turned to Yule light the log the Horned One rules.

In the spring, when night equals day time for Ostara to come our way.
When the Sun has reached it's height time for Oak and Holly to fight.

Harvesting comes to one and all when the Autumn Equinox does fall.
Heed the flower, bush, and tree by the Lady blessed you'll be.

Where the rippling waters go cast a stone, the truth you'll know.
When you have and hold a need, harken not to others greed.

With a fool no season spend or be counted as his friend.
Merry Meet and Merry Part bright the cheeks and warm the heart.

Mind the Three-fold Laws you should three times bad and three times good.
When misfortune is enow wear the star upon your brow.

Be true in love this you must do unless your love is false to you.

These Eight words the Rede fulfill:

"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"

We do not kill cats and throw them at you. We Don't harm any thing not even our selves. Either you STOP this false accusation or I will report your entire website.

[Levi Jones]

Re: False Religions And Cults

These Eight words the Rede fulfill:

"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"

Notice where Gardner rips off Crowley in his "Thelema."

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"

Yeah, a guy who hung around and plagiarized from satanists isn't one.

Either you STOP this false accusation or I will report your entire website.

To whom will you report us? This is our house. We have freedom of speech (mostly) here.

If I want to expose the fact that witches eat babies and sacrifice black cats, there's really not much to be done for you.

[AuraLayne]

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Dear Pasture, I can't tell you what to do. I just wanna say I don't eat babies. I don't do sacrifices and I came to this site because I wanted to learn about Christianity. But I don't believe you know yourselves what it is.

[Levi Jones]

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Dear Pasture, I can't tell you what to do. I just wanna say I don't eat babies. I don't do sacrifices and I came to this site because I wanted to learn about Christianity. But I don't believe you know yourselves what it is.

Dear witch. I have forgotten more about the Bible than you ever knew.

You didn't come here to learn. You came in here to have an hysterical meltdown over your sacred cow being disparaged. I notice you couldn't care less what we think of scientologists or mormons. You probably think they are weird too.

Well, I think you wickeds are weird, because you follow a religion made up less than 70 years ago by a guy who ripped off Crowley in a scam to get fat women to take their tops off and dance around a fire.

[Irish Hillbilly]

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He is trying to save your soul you ungrateful brat. You should be thanking him instead of whining about it!

And you are completely wrong on the judging:

Leviticus 19:15 "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

2nd Timothy 4:1-2 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."

I am a christian don't get me wrong, but I don't think you should insult anyone...in the bible it says to forgive your enemies. For all you know the 'witches' are peaceful teenagers going through a phase of their life and are just completely confused. I think in stead of insulting them us Christians should explain peacefuly about our religion, and not with anger

[Levi Jones]

Re: False Religions And Cults

I am a christian don't get me wrong, but I don't think you should insult anyone...

"DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
"SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
"VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
"HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
"CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
"PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
"REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
"HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
"FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
"WICKED AND ADULTEROUS" Mat. 16:4 "A wicked and adulterous generation" (see also Mat. 12:45, 13:49, 18:32, 21:41, 25:26, Luke 19:22, 1Cor. 5:13, 2Thes. 3:2, 2Pet. 2:7, 3:17)
"O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
"STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
"LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
"ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
"WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .

in the bible it says to forgive your enemies.

Yes it does. I forgive them all for not accepting Christ. It's still not going to stop me from telling them the truth.

Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

For all you know the 'witches' are peaceful teenagers going through a phase of their life and are just completely confused. I think in stead of insulting them us Christians should explain peacefuly about our religion, and not with anger

Friend, there is no anger. We are not stoning them or setting witches on fire like the True Christians™ in Africa do.

All we do is explain to them why they are wrong and Jesus is right. To tell them anything less than what the Bible says about not allowing witches to live is disingenuous.

[AuraLayne]

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Irish Hillbilly is my brother, Levi.

[Levi Jones]

Re: False Religions And Cults

Irish Hillbilly is my brother, Levi.

Annnnnnd? He has some strange ideas about what is in the Bible.

[Irish Hillbilly]

Re: False Religions And Cults

Annnnnnd? He has some strange ideas about what is in the Bible.

I believe we have the same words and different thoughts my friend

[barton]

Re: False Religions And Cults

I just wanna say I don't eat babies. I don't do sacrifices

Why did you stop eating babies? You too fat and lazy these days?

and I came to this site because I wanted to learn about Christianity

Everything you need to know is here already. Why don't you spend some time reading? Or are you more interested in pounding your fat fingers into the keyboard posting nonsense?

[Levi Jones]

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I believe we have the same words and different thoughts my friend

Wait, what? We have the exact same words. Some are just emphasized more than others. You can cherrypick a few verses that make you think God is all puppies and rainbows.

I moved beyond such notions a long time ago. God is brutal. He will punish you eternally for so much as looking at a woman with lust in your heart, pal.

Think about that and tell me you don't want to get right with Him!