[SensibleAtheist]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Those creatures who call themselves atheists are really militant anti-theists and there is a huge difference. Although viewing themselves as “free thinkers”, they all have a Party Line of Satan that they follow rather closely. They often believe more firmly in God’s existence than do many so-called Christians! These professional atheists who’ve dedicate themselves to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him. They’re the God-haters. They don't want to believe in the LORD because then they want to engage in all manner of lust and sin!

Because I cannot prove there is or is not a god, I cannot say whether or not there is one with any certainty. My opinion is that he probably doesn't, but I could very easily be wrong. However the chances are equal that you guys are.

I do not believe there is a satan either. I do not believe I can "sin", in the religious sense, because sin implies that it's against God's behaviour codes.

But I do not go around doing things that would be called sins. I help people if they are in need and I will not harm anyone without an excellent reason.

But I don't do these things because an all-powerful God tells me too, I do these things because that is the way I would want to be treated in the same situation.

You seem to be very certain about your religion, which is great, but maybe you shouldn't immediately dismiss all the other ones without actually knowing that you're right.

[Talitha]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Because I cannot prove there is or is not a god, I cannot say whether or not there is one with any certainty. My opinion is that he probably doesn't, but I could very easily be wrong. However the chances are equal that you guys are.

Better to be safe than face an Eternity in Hell?

I do not believe there is a satan either. I do not believe I can "sin", in the religious sense, because sin implies that it's against God's behaviour codes.

But I do not go around doing things that would be called sins. I help people if they are in need and I will not harm anyone without an excellent reason.

That is why God Created us with Free Will.

But I don't do these things because an all-powerful God tells me too, I do these things because that is the way I would want to be treated in the same situation.

You seem to be very certain about your religion, which is great, but maybe you shouldn't immediately dismiss all the other ones without actually knowing that you're right.

We know because The Bible tells us It's true. The Bible was written by God, the Bible is real therefore God is real.

Now, can I interest you in Salvation?

[SensibleAtheist]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Better to be safe than face an Eternity in Hell?

Indeed, but I haven't decided that any religion is wrong. By deciding that yours is correct, and others are false, if you're incorrect, you're in a worse position than me.

That is why God Created us with Free Will.

He created us with the ability to choose and then decided what we should do with it? I wouldn't call that free will.

We know because The Bible tells us It's true. The Bible was written by God, the Bible is real therefore God is real.

Now, can I interest you in Salvation?

The Bible was written by people, why else do you think it needs to be printed, or hand written?

Plus, if I write a book and say it's written by a God, that's just as valid as the bible, surely?

Just because there isn't an author's name on the cover and noone's getting any copywright royalties doesn't mean that God is the only person that could possibly have written it.

If salvation is eternity with smug christians, I'll take eternal damnation.

[James Hutchins]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Because I cannot prove there is or is not a god, I cannot say whether or not there is one with any certainty. My opinion is that he probably doesn't, but I could very easily be wrong. However the chances are equal that you guys are.

I do not believe there is a satan either. I do not believe I can "sin", in the religious sense, because sin implies that it's against God's behaviour codes.

But I do not go around doing things that would be called sins. I help people if they are in need and I will not harm anyone without an excellent reason.

But I don't do these things because an all-powerful God tells me too, I do these things because that is the way I would want to be treated in the same situation.

You seem to be very certain about your religion, which is great, but maybe you shouldn't immediately dismiss all the other ones without actually knowing that you're right.

Perhaps the most wishy-washy words I have read in a long time.

LOL, I'd love to hear your wedding vows... "I take you, well, maybe not...."

You are no atheist. You are an indefinite.

[SensibleAtheist]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Perhaps the most wishy-washy words I have read in a long time.

LOL, I'd love to hear your wedding vows... "I take you, well, maybe not...."

You are no atheist. You are an indefinite.

Indeed, if anything I would be an agnostic, since, without any proof, I cannot say who is right and who is wrong.

You can't either. You can say you know you're right a million times, but you still have no more actual knowledge about the subject than me, and what you think you know is simply opinion.

I can only say what I believe. The wedding vows, for instance, would be very easy. "I believe that I will love you for the rest of my life and will spend that life trying to make your time as enjoyable as possible."

[James Hutchins]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Wow, all I can say is wow. I cannot imagine going through life with such a non-commital attitude. You must get lost driving... a lot!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

We know that with God all things go according to His Plan, yet because He is ineffable, we do not know that plan but we are told in the Book of Revelations many things that will come to pass.

The secular scientists have discovered “The uncertainty principle.” Basically, this states that we cannot know where things are at any one moment and also know how fast it is moving*. They too have their 'Book of Revelations' in Einstein and Newton that tells them how things will come to pass.

It can be that
(i)God is wrong,
(ii)Scientists are wrong,
(iii)both are wrong or
(iv)neither are wrong but both theories are identical but allegorical

Given the above, we know is that we do not know what the future will hold.

Scientists do not claim to have invented God; even they think this is impossible. God, for Whom nothing is impossible, has created scientists (souls to be reprobated.) We know this because God foretells of scientists and their methods**, but scientists do not speak of God.

We now see that scientists have a status below God, so who are you going to believe? The Head or the ass***?



*As I understand it, this is much like when your car is stolen. Some nigra will be driving it but you don’t know where or how fast.

**1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1 Timothy 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

***2Tm:3:8: Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
2Tm:3:9: But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

[SensibleAtheist]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Wow, all I can say is wow. I cannot imagine going through life with such a non-commital attitude. You must get lost driving... a lot!

I'm not sure I understand the connection between realising what I think is not necessarily true and being bad at finding my way driving.

Especially as it never happens. Though I rarely drive somewhere I haven't been before, and if I do, I take a map.

Care to explain your reasoning there?

[James Hutchins]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

I'm not sure I understand the connection between realising what I think is not necessarily true and being bad at finding my way driving.

Especially as it never happens. Though I rarely drive somewhere I haven't been before, and if I do, I take a map.

Care to explain your reasoning there?

Your 'non-commital attitude'. A human being is not like a feather in the wind. Sorry if it was too deep.

Pastor Bathfire explained it with lots of easy words that might be more comprehendable to you.

[objectivist]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Although viewing themselves as “free thinkers”, they all have a Party Line of Satan that they follow rather closely.

I can't speak for every atheist on the planet but I certainly don't believe in satan, let alone follow some kind of fictitious party line I think you'd be surprised how many of us are a lot like you. We think theft and murder and so on are terrible things, we just don't believe in an omnipotent being who can enforce those rules. Sure, you think we'll burn in hell, but we're not nescesarily bad people.

[GOD=life]

Re: There are no 'real' atheists

Sure, you think we'll burn in hell, but we're not nescesarily bad people.

No, the Bible says you will burn in Hell. Does that mean I want you to burn in Hell? No, of course not. But the Bible states clearly that good works do not cut it. So no matter how great of a person you may be, no matter how reasonable, kind, forgiving or openminded, your boarding pass says "Hell". That is what the Bible says.

A guiding principle for Christians:

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.