[Follow Him]

Re: You are all in danger!

Well, simply put - we are not liberals and we do believe in tough love.
We follow the holy Bible (KJV 1611) and we follow all of it.
We are salt of the earth, a city on the hill (Matt 5:13-16)

Homersexualls and other evil-doers will burn in hell! Deus vult.

We are hot (Rev 3: 15-16), but what are you?

You do realize that we are all evildoers, right? This is the sort of arrogance and pride Im talking about. You claim things like this, almost as if you believe yourselves to be perfect....looking down your noses at the rest of the world. I urge you to be careful in these actions. You will reap what you sow(Gal. 6:7). You claim on fire for God, and praise be to God if you truly are. My question is, what proof do you have that you are 'hot'? Because if your proof is from this site, from what I have seen, you are sadly mistaken.

[Firebird13]

Re: You are all in danger!

He does seem to have a point. In the Bible it says that the meek will inherit the earth. It's not very meek to claim to be the only ones going to heaven.

[Noah Dint]

Re: You are all in danger!

My question is, what proof do you have that you are 'hot'?

FINALLY! Thank you for the question without a bazillion words as to why you are about to ask it.

I can only answer with:
What proof do you have that we are not?

If you are constantly providing the problem without providing the solution it's called bitching. And you sir are sounding a lot like a spoiled 12 year old female. I'm not calling you names - so don't start in with all of that - but it's just how you sound. A little spoiled and a lot bitchy.

Do you have a point to being here? Is there anything of a constructive nature you would like to add? Is there something else of substance that I may help you with today?

-ND

[GOD=life]

Re: You are all in danger!

But it will be you and you alone who will answer for your actions here on earth.

Don't you find it ironic that even in the message where you demand that I show humility, you still have the presumptuous attitude that I am wrong?

I would gladly answer for all of my actions on earth, but to God, not to you.

Why do you assume once again that your "you are all in danger!" hand waiving is so convincing that we have no other choice but to surrender to your "logic"? We surrender to God, not to you.

I also noticed that you fail to produce Scripture to back up your assertions. In contrast, we can back up each of our positions with Scripture. Or rather: all our positions follow logically from Scripture.

[Follow Him]

Re: You are all in danger!

FINALLY! Thank you for the question without a bazillion words as to why you are about to ask it.

I can only answer with:
What proof do you have that we are not?

If you are constantly providing the problem without providing the solution it's called bitching. And you sir are sounding a lot like a spoiled 12 year old female. I'm not calling you names - so don't start in with all of that - but it's just how you sound. A little spoiled and a lot bitchy.

Do you have a point to being here? Is there anything of a constructive nature you would like to add? Is there something else of substance that I may help you with today?

-ND

Wow, you are INDEED a true Christian! Especially with that speech you so proudly present!

You answer my question, with a question? You are obviously avoiding my question, which is not very difficult to answer, if you are not in the wrong, that is. I have continuously presented my problems with most of the 'true christians' on here, such as yourself. What proof do I have that you are not 'hot' for the Lord? Simply your underlined words above are all I need. You pretend to be Holy, just as the Pharisees did in Christs day...the same ones that crucified Him. That is my proof, and that is why I appear angry. But not angry just for the sake of arguing, but rather, for the sake of Christs name not being trampled by some cult that proclaims Him to be their savior. You drag His holy name through the muck and the mud with your actions on this forum. And if someone with a sound mind disagrees with you, you ban him/her or make fun of them. All I ask is that you simply compare yourselves to the Word of God!

[Brother V]

Re: You are all in danger!

I also noticed that you fail to produce Scripture to back up your assertions. In contrast, we can back up each of our positions with Scripture. Or rather: all our positions follow logically from Scripture.

Brother, it doesn't matter what scripture we provide, he'll just claim we "take it out of context".

Follow Him is just another example of wishy washy modern christianity. They are the kind of people who only rebuke one type of person. That person is someone who is more closely following the word of God than they are.

When they say "how can you say this?" "How can you do this?" what it really means is that they are insecure in their own christianity. They aren't used to actually running into someone who might actually be on the road to Christ. When they are shown the error of their ways, they get angry. Does Follow Him protest at gay bars? Does Follow Him protest at the courts when people are set free?

I'm guessing that he doesn't. I'm also going to guess that he thinks that people who do are wacko-fundamentalists who miss the message. I'm guessing he thinks that Fred Phelps is hellbound.

Why does he think this? Because someone who actually Rebukes, Reproves, exhorts (2 Timothy 4:2) scares him. The thought that there is more he could be doing to be closer to God, makes him realize, he's not that close at all.

He'll understand that someday.

Hopefully it's before he's dead and in hell.

YIC
V

[Follow Him]

Re: You are all in danger!

Don't you find it ironic that even in the message where you demand that I show humility, you still have the presumptuous attitude that I am wrong?

I would gladly answer for all of my actions on earth, but to God, not to you.

Why do you assume once again that your "you are all in danger!" hand waiving is so convincing that we have no other choice but to surrender to your "logic"? We surrender to God, not to you.

I also noticed that you fail to produce Scripture to back up your assertions. In contrast, we can back up each of our positions with Scripture. Or rather: all our positions follow logically from Scripture.

Ok, I dont know if you just havent read through the rest of my posts or not, but in just about every single one, I use the Bible to back up what I say. I am not going to go back and look over my posts to prove to you Im not lying. You can do that work for yourself if you dont believe me. And Im glad that you said that you would gladly answer to God, because thats all I ask of you. But truly think of your actions, rather than just avoiding what Im saying. I am not here to argue with anyone, but rather, as I stated previously, to give a strong word of rebuke for the ways of this forum/church(if it is a real church).

Jesus taught us to love our neighbors, just as we love ourselves.(Mark 12:31). Think about what that really means. If you dont like to be called names, such as trash, then why on earth would you do it to someone else. Oh friends, dont you see??? God loves us all, and until each of us are dead and in the ground, there is still hope for each of us. Some may seem hopless, but so did the Ninevites when Jonah was sent to preach to them. God can overcome all things, because He has created ALL THINGS! Dont be so hateful to people, especially new people you dont know. I pray God will show you just a piece of His plan, that your hearts would be conformed to be as that of Christs!

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

Re: You are all in danger!

He does seem to have a point. In the Bible it says that the meek will inherit the earth. It's not very meek to claim to be the only ones going to heaven.

Only True Christians will have a place in the SON!!!

GLORY!

[Follow Him]

Re: You are all in danger!

Brother, it doesn't matter what scripture we provide, he'll just claim we "take it out of context".

Follow Him is just another example of wishy washy modern christianity. They are the kind of people who only rebuke one type of person. That person is someone who is more closely following the word of God than they are.

When they say "how can you say this?" "How can you do this?" what it really means is that they are insecure in their own christianity. They aren't used to actually running into someone who might actually be on the road to Christ. When they are shown the error of their ways, they get angry. Does Follow Him protest at gay bars? Does Follow Him protest at the courts when people are set free?

I'm guessing that he doesn't. I'm also going to guess that he thinks that people who do are wacko-fundamentalists who miss the message. I'm guessing he thinks that Fred Phelps is hellbound.

Why does he think this? Because someone who actually Rebukes, Reproves, exhorts (2 Timothy 4:2) scares him. The thought that there is more he could be doing to be closer to God, makes him realize, he's not that close at all.

He'll understand that someday.

Hopefully it's before he's dead and in hell.

YIC
V

Brother V, I actually respect you for your down to earth manner. Out of everyone I have seen post on here, you and brother Hutchins have struck me as the least arrogant/prideful of them all.

Now when you say Im wishy washy modern christianity, I wouldnt agree with that. I try to follow the Word of God the best way I can interpret it. I can only do that which I feel God is speaking to my heart or core. I can see that many of you know the Bible, and that is good! But it becomes a problem when you yourselves believe that you know all there is to know and that there is no chance that you are wrong in some of the ways that you have. I will be the first to admit that I dont know/understand all of the Bible. Yet I have ran across 3/4 people that claim that they follow, and I quote, "all of the Bible." Now to make that claim is to claim to know/understand 'all of the Bible.' Thats why I say be humble and have humility. Dont be arrogant, because Christ was not arrogant. In fact, God humbled Himself, even unto death(Phil. 2:8) for you and me. All I ask of any of you is to represent Christ in a LOVING and HUMBLE manner.

For your sake, I hope and pray that you are on the road to Christ. I pray that He will reveal Himself to you and more to me as well. We are the body of Christ, and for this reason, I pray that we could unite as His body!

BTW...who is fred phelps? I dont know him.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: You are all in danger!

For your sake, I hope and pray that you are on the road to Christ. I pray that He will reveal Himself to you and more to me as well. We are the body of Christ, and for this reason, I pray that we could unite as His body!

Friend,

You still avoid Brother V's basic point that you only can be bothered to rebuke those Christians you find following God's Word more closely than you do. We all saw you in another thread in this very forum bend over backwards to accommodate an atheist with the ultra-Luke warm argument than no one is sure (and if we are not sure about The Bible, why follow it?) That is not humility friend, that is just rank surrender to the secularist agenda.

If you are a Christian why won't you join us in the fight the good fight for these people's souls? Were is your compassion, you love for these people that you would just stand by as they are damn to hell?

[Follow Him]

Re: You are all in danger!

Friend,

You still avoid Brother V's basic point that you only can be bothered to rebuke those Christians you find following God's Word more closely than you do. We all saw you in another thread in this very forum bend over backwards to accommodate an atheist with the ultra-Luke warm argument than no one is sure (and if we are not sure about The Bible, why follow it?) That is not humility friend, that is just rank surrender to the secularist agenda.

If you are a Christian why won't you join us in the fight the good fight for these people's souls? Were is your compassion, you love for these people that you would just stand by as they are damn to hell?

Ok, First of all, in the thread about the athiest, I was relating to how he felt, not knowing about God. If you pretend that you have never wondered about God, then you are not being honest with me or yourself. I never said anything about not knowing for sure. And besides that, I guarentee that what I said got through to him more than anything anyone else on this site said. Be as Paul, who said he would become all things to all men, to display the love of Christ(1 Cor. 9) It really sounds like many of you are living in the Old testament. The old Testament was to teach us, and the New Testament was for us to live by. Not to write off the Old Testament as it is equally important, but when Jesus came, He fulfilled the law! He changed EVERYTHING!

Lastly, you say these people are damned to Hell, and that may be. But let me ask you, how do you know you are saved? How do you know for a fact that you are going to Heaven? I can tell you how I know I am saved. Its not just b/c a prayer I said once. Its because I continue to grow closer and closer with God. Its not because I repented once, but b/c I continue to repent daily!

[Nobar King]

Re: You are all in danger!

Wow. I take a nap and a lot happens in this thread! Follow-Him, I don't understand why you're trying to bring everyone down. It's not very friendly.

[Follow Him]

Re: You are all in danger!

Wow. I take a nap and a lot happens in this thread! Follow-Him, I don't understand why you're trying to bring everyone down. It's not very friendly.

Friend, Im not trying to bring you down. Just trying to get you to realize that the way you go about following Christ may be wrong. Sometimes, you have to hit the bottom before you can start to really look up!

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: You are all in danger!

Ok, First of all, in the thread about the athiest, I was relating to how he felt, not knowing about God.

In other words you went out of your wait to not upseat him by not telling him The TRUTH. But again, we see you have plenty of rebuking for those who dare to be more secure in their FAITH then you do.

But let us discuss the motes in my eye's

If you pretend that you have never wondered about God, then you are not being honest with me or yourself.

Yes I have, after all I was a Democrat once.

I never said anything about not knowing for sure. And besides that, I guarentee that what I said got through to him more than anything anyone else on this site said.

And we are the arrogant ones?

Tell, then why is our forum the only place you could reach this man?

Be as Paul, who said he would become all things to all men, to display the love of Christ(1 Cor. 9) It really sounds like many of you are living in the Old testament. The old Testament was to teach us, and the New Testament was for us to live by. Not to write off the Old Testament as it is equally important, but when Jesus came, He fulfilled the law! He changed EVERYTHING!

We fallow all of the Bible, not convince ourselves that unpopular parts of the should be tossed aside. A TRUE Christian lives in both the Old and New Testaments. Not arrogently plays cut and past with Word of God.

Lastly, you say these people are damned to Hell, and that may be. But let me ask you, how do you know you are saved? How do you know for a fact that you are going to Heaven? I can tell you how I know I am saved. Its not just b/c a prayer I said once. Its because I continue to grow closer and closer with God. Its not because I repented once, but b/c I continue to repent daily!

Because we follow all of The Bible allof the time, that is why.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: You are all in danger!

the way you go about following Christ may be wrong

So you are not even sure of that yourself? We don't think you may be wrong. We are sure you are wrong. See the difference?