[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

Brothers and sisters, in the massive, unruly and hate-filled post that you see directly above this one, you can witness first hand what happens when you embrace satan and reject Christ. This heathen scum has a scrambled brain, but he doesn't know it, because his dark master whispers lies into his ears. He thinks that he's making perfect sense, but everything is says is jumbled up lies and delusion.

Not very pretty is it.

[Enema of YOU people]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHa you guy are hysticial, are you even lisytening to yourselves?First off how can one be guilty of sin before they are alive to commit a sin? Think about it. How can one be wicked, yet act wicked. I'm curriour just many retard, or mental impared people do know personally? Don't judge what you do not know first hand.No, god does not deal in abolsutes. God understands and forgives. If you truly understood human nature you to would be far less judgemental. I'm not saying there isn't evil or isn't good, all I'm saying is both are an extreme and that the vast majority is grey. The only law that is absokute is causality, and God's grace.I do not need to give Jesus a reason to love me. God will love me no matter what I do, as any parent loves their child.But what is righousness. Such a thing is based solely upon the vague idea of what is good and what is evil, both of which are subjective to the person. The Nazis believed they were rightous, as did the communists and the Huns and the Mongols. Indeed if you go down the line will every 'evil' person believed they were rightous.So you all willing to be judge by those whom do understand the reasons for you actions? The tragedies and joys of your past? Human unable to completely able to understand anything completely and thus we are unable to properly judge eath other. That is why god reserved judgement and vengance for himself. The sole being that does understand these things.Does the bible deal in absolutes? In one verse it condems prostitutes saying they should be stoned. Yet in another it openly forgives a prostitutes whom displays sincere regret. There is rarely a time when there is not middle ground, one should seek that middle ground in order to see the truth of situation. The devil does both, he is the quiet whisper in our ear leading us to intolerance, judgement and the pursuit of our desires by harming others knowingly.God is the quiet still voice in ones heart. Saying do not harm others if you can. Accept aothers as they are, do not judge. That self sacrifice, duty and honor are sacred things. To love and not to hate. To act with the pen, not the sword.Also it is not true that every retarded baby is born retarded becuase of his mother's promisuity, sorry spelled that wrong. Many are born from mothers have done nothing wrong. there are many reasons for retardation in a baby, most often lack of air during birth. Or bad genetics.And no that isn't who God's name is spelled in Hebrew, your using the English alphabet. (Joke) Second thanks for the correction, I honestly was only going by ear since I've only ever heard it spoken.Me being the aggressive one, whom are attacking whom?In closing you don't have the right to decide who believes what. That for the indivigual to decide. Erasing one religion or many will not create peace. Peace cannot be baught with blood. Lay down the sword, take up the book, take those you love in your arms and live in harmony with the land and nieghbor, thus shall you find peace. For those whom drench their hands in blood, there is no peace nor salvation from the ghosts shall haunt their every step.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

With all due respect Pastor Pistle, this topic of women's forum has been exhaustively discussed in the recent past:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=1464

One can only conclude that without guidance from manly men, and the proper True Christian™ women, things deteriorate rather quickly. Their addled brains seemingly are incapable of remaining on topic.

Thank you for that. Perhaps, for their guidance, I should repost my assessment of the situation from the last time an uppity woman started flapping her yap on the subject?

This entire thread is proof of the inherent idiocy of the entire weaker sex.

Originally Posted by Undecided
And Eno, that's exactly what I was talking about! A place for the wise ladies to give advice to the.... well.... not-so-wise ladies. *Giggles*

What, like if there was a TRUE CHRISTIAN HELP FORUM LED BY MOTHER GLENDORA, for example? Or perhaps you were thinking of something more along the lines of a BETTY BOWERS FORUM WHERE IGNORANT WOMEN COULD NATTER ABOUT GOSSIP AND RECIPES AND OTHER SUCH FRIVOLOUS THINGS? In future, please take care to look around the forum, and try to think before you post. I know, being female, it's difficult, but please at least try to make the effort.

Now, can any good True Christian™ man give me a single good reason why I shouldn't lock this thread and ban every single member of this forum who is tainted with the curse of Eve?

[revrggreen]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

[quote=revrggreen;99088]These retards are nothing but wild animals, and from statistics a massive 97% of violent teens in schools have some sort of learning retardation. [quote]

While the other 3% of violent teens are goths.

[revrggreen]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

[quote=Enemy of YOU people;98875]First off, retards are not the Devil's Children. Why? Because they don't do evil.
quote]

?? Son, this could NOT be further from the truth. These retards are nothing but wild animals, and from statistics a massive 97% of violent teens in schools have some sort of learning retardation.

Where are your facts now, Devil-boy? See, we can all see through your filthy lies.

Take a look at this article -

FILTHY RETARDS GET AWAY WITH MURDER AND ABUSE IN SCHOOLS

A disabled, violent student in North Carolina broke her teacher's
arm in a classroom fray. A disabled Oklahoma student stabbed her
teacher with a nail she had secreted into class. What followed?
Summary expulsion, or at least placement in more restrictive
classrooms?

No. Under the 1975 Individuals With Disabilities Act, or IDEA, which
provides the special programs designed to educate and create
opportunities for disabled students, the teachers and school
officials in the two states may deal with such violent and
disruptive students with only mild punishments.

The Oklahoma student received a three-day suspension, for example,
and the North Carolina girl was suspended from school for two days,
even though similar acts by nondisabled students would have resulted
in much harsher measures.

Such incidents, now commonplace, have led the two major teachers'
unions -- the American Federation of Teachers and the National
Education Association -- along with several professional
organizations, such as the National Association of Elementary School
Principals, to demand a major overhaul of the IDEA. They believe its
provisions have been responsible for allowing the situation to get
completely out of hand and they are glad it is before Congress for
reevaluation.

Violent and disruptive behavior by disabled students has ranged from
defecating in the classroom to the regular battering of teachers and
even the murder of other students.

Says Michael Resnick, spokesman for the National School Boards
Association, "What we are asking is that disabled students be
treated the same way as nondisabled students -- that all students be
viewed as equal." Resnick and other professionals want to see the
IDEA revamped to protect teachers and students from violence in the
classroom -- allowing school authorities to remove disruptive
students and, preferably, transfer them to settings in which their
special needs can be met. "Nondisabled students have rights too,"
says Resnick.

Pitted against these educators are parents of disabled students and
leaders of organizations that represent the disabled, such as the
Berkeley-based Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund. These
groups regard any changes in the IDEA as a slippery slope down which
hard-won rights for the disabled will slide into Dickensian misery.

What special-education advocates want is a school system "where no
child is deprived of education and there is no one who is expelled,"
says Myrna Mandlawitz, a specialist in government affairs for the
national Association of State Directors of Special Education, based
in Alexandria, Va. Mandlawitz argues that a strong federal presence
in special education -- and a strong IDEA -- is needed because the
states have "a bad record," particularly before the 1975 passage of
this law.

At issue is a practice called "inclusion," initiated about 15 years
ago and now widespread, in which disabled students are taken from
special-education centers and other specialized schools and grouped
in regular classrooms with the nondisabled. The theory behind
inclusion is that the disabled will benefit from association with
other students and will not tend to regard themselves as
irredeemably different.

According to Department of Education figures, 4.8 million school-age
children are defined as disabled, the vast majority (3.5 million) of
whom fall into such broad categories as the learning disabled and
those with speech and language impairments -- groupings that include
dyslexics and the hyperactive. About 550,000 are mentally retarded,
while deaf and blind students number just under 100,000.

Inclusion means mainstreaming such disabled students as dyslexics --
many of whom can profit from contact with nondyslexics and only some
of whom need highly individualized education, according to Steve
Laubacher, executive director of the Orton Dyslexia Society, based
in Baltimore.

But also mainstreamed are the disabled children with Down syndrome
and the autistic, who require a great deal of personal attention,
who sometimes are not toilet trained (requiring schools to provide
special diapering rooms) and who can be violent.

Under an IDEA "stay-put provision," teachers and school officials
can suspend disabled students from any category for only 10 days
without then going to court to obtain permission from a judge to
continue the suspension.

It's at this point that school authorities feel most frustrated --
and it is at this point that many educators who otherwise support
special education become doubtful. Says John Brennan, a retired
adjustment counselor in psychological services with the Boston
public schools, "I think there is a need for the programs, but
without the farout social theories in which the special-ed people
begin to pursue one crazy fad after another."

Going to court to remove a student deemed disruptive and a danger to
him or herself and others takes time and a great deal of money.
Judges are prone to grant suspension of violent students only in
cases in which a life is threatened -- something teachers and school
officials find difficult to prove.

Moreover, the courts rarely are friendly to teachers' concerns.
Their predominant philosophy is that a disability saps self-esteem --
and it is this loss of confidence that leads the disabled student
to lash out and turn to violence. It is an approach to the law that
allows the courts to conclude that disabled students should not be
punished in the same ways as nondisabled students, educators say.

In addition, the schools often end up paying their opponents'
attorneys' fees. Fee awards as high as $10,000 and $20,000 are not
unusual, says Resnick. These funds must come out of school budgets
(and therefore from taxpayer money) and be taken from the costs of
other projects the schools have planned.

The House Economic and Educational Opportunities subcommittee on
Early Childhood, Youth and Families, chaired by conservative
Republican Randy "Duke" Cunningham of California, held three
hearings on the IDEA this summer but adjourned for the August break
without producing a completed bill -- something the members had
planned to do. The Senate Labor and Human Resources subcommittee on
Disability Policy, chaired by Tennessee Republican Bill Frist, a
conservative and physician, plans to have its version by the end of
September.

Educators such as Resnick, as well as advocates for the disabled,
are asking the federal government to provide as much as another 40
percent of what the states are paying for special-education
programs. No one in Congress is even talking about spending that
kind of money. Since the states now spend about $30 billion, that
would mean at least $13 billion coming from federal funds. But the
federal government supplies "only" about $3 billion a year -- a
figure that may increase slightly, say Insight's sources in the
House, but which certainly won't climb by much and may go down.

The Clinton administration has checked in with a revised IDEA that
would base federal grants to the states on the total number of
students enrolled in school, rather than the number of special-
education kids, as now is the case.

The Education Department sees this bill as encouraging the states to
start identifying disabled youngsters early on -- say, at the
toddler stage -- when disabilities, especially many kinds of
learning and speech problems, are best handled.

But, more to the point, Education hopes that by basing grants on
total numbers of students the states won't tend to "overidentify"
children who have disabilities -- a problem many observers say adds
significantly to the lists of students in special education and one
that needs addressing.

The administration bill doesn't address the clear and present danger
of violence in the classroom, Resnick notes, and he also says that
Congress has yet to deal with that problem.

What the teachers' unions and education associations want is a
system that allows disputes between teachers and the representatives
of the disabled to be settled in hearings outside the courtroom --
with no attorneys present, says Resnick. The courts, they say, must
be a last resort. It's a demand that the disabled and their
representatives fight tooth and nail. All three House hearings on
the bill this summer were heavily attended by parents of the
disabled, who also staged a 1,000-person demonstration on the steps
of the Capitol in favor of keeping the restrictive provisions.

The IDEA as it now stands also requires schools to pay for the
hearing aids, eyeglasses and other needs of their disabled students,
a cost educators want placed on state health agencies rather than
the educational system, says Resnick.

Congress may find some way to grant teachers and others in the
classroom more protection -- at least when it comes to school
violence. Last year a bill that allows schools to suspend for 45
days disabled students who bring firearms to class was supported by
the Clinton administration and passed by the House and Senate. This
was a major alteration in the IDEA, and it comes despite protests
from advocates for the disabled. School officials say they want the
45-day suspension extended to disabled students who bring to school
other weapons, such as knives, brass knuckles and martialarts gear.
Many states, some of them fearful of a rise in the number of
lawsuits from nondisabled students harmed in classrooms by the
disabled, are taking matters into their own hands. Virginia
authorities, for example, recently asked a federal court to overturn
a July 3 ruling by Secretary of Education Richard Riley that the
commonwealth violates the IDEA when it suspends violent students who
threaten others in the classroom.

Whatever happens, Boston's John Brennan may have the last word on
the bottom-line issue at hand. "When kids are disruptive, you remove
them," he says. "You give the other kids a break."

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

If you mean getting oral sex instruction from that terrible harlot Tali, or her novice assistant, the ex-papist Sister Mary Maria, I'm afraid I would have to absolutely forbid any such thing! You would have to keep the conversation within the bounds of propriety. Recipes, washing and ironing, cleaning, where to go during your unclean time....things like that.

But I approve a women's only forum. It would be such a convenience! Once a month we could simply ban everyone in it! That's a great idea, Sister Seeker.

With all due respect Pastor Pistle, this topic of women's forum has been exhaustively discussed in the recent past:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=1464

One can only conclude that without guidance from manly men, and the proper True Christian™ women, things deteriorate rather quickly. Their addled brains seemingly are incapable of remaining on topic.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

Yeah, but you would have to admit that you would miss us during that time. Do you really want to look like a homer talking to all men for that month?

I think it should go beyond the cooking and cleaning. Very good points though. Maybe we could build each other up for how to submit and obey. Maybe Paul's way. Just like the bible says. We could call it the Proverbs 31 woman's thread. We do like a challenge. All other harlots are not allowed unless they have something good to say!

I'll let you negotiate terms with whoever actually starts the forum. I haven't time. I spend most of my life ministering to poor, wayward girls at the Landover Home in Hawaii. I must convince them to cast out their evil thoughts of constant fornication and seek a better ...or at least a more highly paid...life serving the LORD and tithing appropriately.

[Seeker]

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But I approve a women's only forum. It would be such a convenience! Once a month we could simply ban everyone in it! That's a great idea, Sister Seeker.

Yeah, but you would have to admit that you would miss us during that time. Do you really want to look like a homer talking to all men for that month?

I think it should go beyond the cooking and cleaning. Very good points though. Maybe we could build each other up for how to submit and obey. Maybe Paul's way. Just like the bible says. We could call it the Proverbs 31 woman's thread. We do like a challenge. All other harlots are not allowed unless they have something good to say!

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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Now you are talking. We would have a lot to yap about and I am sure you men would benefit from it. Know what I mean?

If you mean getting oral sex instruction from that terrible harlot Tali, or her novice assistant, the ex-papist Sister Mary Maria, I'm afraid I would have to absolutely forbid any such thing! You would have to keep the conversation within the bounds of propriety. Recipes, washing and ironing, cleaning, where to go during your unclean time....things like that.

But I approve a women's only forum. It would be such a convenience! Once a month we could simply ban everyone in it! That's a great idea, Sister Seeker.

[Seeker]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

Now you are talking. We would have a lot to yap about and I am sure you men would benefit from it. Know what I mean?

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

Pastor, in all due respect, it is almost impossible for a woman to get pregnant during her horrible monthly curse. I only find it retarded if a man wants it then.

Maybe we should have an only womens forum. Just a suggestion.

I thought you already had one. I wouldn't actually know since I wouldn't go there.....but it might keep all you unclean women out of the MEN's forums if you had a place to yappity-yap-yap.

[Seeker]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

It is a well known fact that women have retarded babies as a result of having fornications during their monthly curse. God punishes them for such filthy lust.

Pastor, in all due respect, it is almost impossible for a woman to get pregnant during her horrible monthly curse. I only find it retarded if a man wants it then.

Maybe we should have an only womens forum. Just a suggestion.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

It is a well known fact that women have retarded babies as a result of having fornications during their monthly curse. God punishes them for such filthy lust.

[lord warrior]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

Enemy of YOU people;98875]First off, retards are not the Devil's Children. Why? Because they don't do evil.

They are the offspring of evil, Gods punishment for the mothers wickedness.

Murder is wrong with the sole exception being in the name of UK ZUk ZON, slay evil immediately. Murder is taking of another humans life. Killing retards = murder which breaks the ten commandments.

What sort of devil worship is this. Is this UKZUKZON some demon you now worship. So it OK to kill for your personel hell demon but not the loving Christ.

Retards as you call them should be treated like all others as they are the same as us in Yahway's eyes.

If God loved them like he does me, then he wouldn't made them tards in the first place

And no you can't tell from birth someone is mental impared at birth, that is boilagical FACT. Nor are all retard victums of birth defects, it's brain damage that can have a large number of causes. Heaven forbid that one of you should suffer such injury and become what despise.

Brain damage,plese tell us what its like to have that, as you certinly do.


Only Evil deals in absolutes
Pride is the worse of human flaws
Wrath is a sin
Thou shall not judge.

Only the bible deals with absolutes. it the devil and his like thats says "its all OK to do".

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Retards are the Devil's Children

First off, retards are not the Devil's Children. Why? Because they don't do evil.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14:1

Everyone who hasn't accepted Jesus is evil and thus are his works (Matthew 7:17-18), no exceptions.
And if a retard would somehow accept Jesus, it should go without saying that they'd be cured of their retardedness -
And be retards no more.

Murder is wrong with the sole exception being in the name of UK ZUk ZON, slay evil immediately. Murder is taking of another humans life. Killing retards = murder which breaks the ten commandments.

In the name of what??

Retards as you call them should be treated like all others as they are the same as us in Yahway's eyes.

Stop misspelling the most common misconception of God's name.
It's not Yahway.. It's YAHWEH. And not even that is correct.
It's actually four hebrew letters equaling YHVH.

You don't come off as educated by throwing such around, you come off as a clueless idiot.. and one that greatly disrespects God on top of that.

And no you can't tell from birth someone is mental impared at birth, that is boilagical FACT. Nor are all retard victums of birth defects, it's brain damage that can have a large number of causes.

Learn to spell.
And retards are most surely wicked, and the wicked are wicked even BEFORE birth! God knowest.
So we need not be able to see it ourselves, He tells us, and His Word is true.
The wicked are estranged from the womb:
They go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Psalm 58:3

Heaven forbid that one of you should suffer such injury and become what despise.

Exactly, Heaven forbids it. God protects us from evil.

Only Evil deals in absolutes

GOD deals in absolutes. (John 14:6 & Revelation 3:15-16)

Pride is the worse of human flaws

So you say, and yet you are full of it.

Wrath is a sin

Indeed, and as you can see, we are quite calm people.
You however, come off as slightly hysterical..

Don't you know that Jesus can love you, and you need only give Him a reason to?

Thou shall not judge.

UNLESS you are prepared to be judged after the same measure.. We are.
We don't fear judgement for Jesus was speaking to the hypocrites.
We WANT to be judged according to our righteousness and deemed worthy of Heaven in the eyes of God.

Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
And with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Matthew 7:1-2

The LORD shall judge the people:
Judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me.
Psalm 7:8