[Phoenix]

Re: I need help

I think that everyone needs to have the power of choice which Jesus said he gave to us when he died on the cross (Free will)...

Hello again Madam,

This is interesting, because I have never heard of, or read where Jesus, peace be upon him, said that. Would you be so kind as to point out where in the Gospel he says that? I am eager to learn more about my own faith.

I do not bealive in forsing/scarying into religion only because people are going to go agenst what you have to say even more if you make it an obligation... I think that a faith and a religion are two diffrent things... A faith is something that you will truely belive in and is the very reason you wake up in the morning... A faith is waking up and knowing you are safe where a religion is just another thing you do on the weekend... To me a religion means somthing you are foursed to beileve and live by where a faith can never be choosen for you because you need to take the jorney to find it yourself

This is also interesting. If I may ask, how would a Christian take the journey to discover their own faith? What I mean is, the tenets of our faith are spelled out clearly, by what God has spoken, and what is written in our scripture. Without this scripture, what are we faithful to? The core tenets, the foundation of our faith, is plain for us, and takes simple consideration to easily understand. Where do we go for guidance - God's word, or our own corruptable opinion? How do we interpret his will? We have faith that he exists above all else. That is truth above all else. But since we know he exists, should we pay attention to his words, or not?

Do you believe that, when someone has faith in God, they should trust him, or not? Do you believe that, when God gives us direction, or when he speaks, we should obey him, or not? He has spoken very little to mankind directly. We have but brief glimpses into his wisdom. But it is indeed very clear that his words are important, and indeed, his words are what our whole faith is built upon, for he has given us part of his wisdom and very clear directions with which to keep us on the straight path - to the Kingdom of Heaven.

What does faith in God mean to you, and where do his actual words come into that?

With respect.

[Stephani]

Re: I need help

well I would try and be tolerant... Maybe it's because where I come from it is not as bigger problem... I think that everyone needs to have the power of choice which Jesus said he gave to us when he died on the cross (Free will)... I do not bealive in forsing/scarying into religion only because people are going to go agenst what you have to say even more if you make it an obligation... I think that a faith and a religion are two diffrent things... A faith is something that you will truely belive in and is the very reason you wake up in the morning... A faith is waking up and knowing you are safe where a religion is just another thing you do on the weekend... To me a religion means somthing you are foursed to beileve and live by where a faith can never be choosen for you because you need to take the jorney to find it yourself

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: I need help

if your daughters or sons came to you one day and said that they want to be wiccan would you kill them or would you love your child no matter what they are?

I would beat them until they stopped being wiccan.

[Phoenix]

Re: I need help

I am sure she has a reason for choosing her path... Guys, if you actually had a look at what wicca is about I am sure that you would see that it is not evil, try being a little tolerant. You need to be nice to people to expect them to be nice to you. I think that maybe you need to slow down on the eternal damning thing and realize that these are people just like yourselves.
I want to ask you a question... if your daughters or sons came to you one day and said that they want to be wiccan would you kill them or would you love your child no matter what they are? I think it is the same with these people... if you show them you can at least tolerate them then you will not have as many problems on your site. I think the main reason you have so many angry wiccans on here is because you put a youtube video online with a link to the site and they have responded.
Just my opinion, but maybe think about what it is like in their shoes.

Hello Madam,

I am curious about your mixed thoughts here. May I ask, have you read the whole thread? In particular, the verse our Pastor quoted, and the verses I quoted, from the Holy Bible. I am interested what you think of them. You understand, that the Scripture and the Gospel are the foundation of the Christian belief, yes? The undisputable word of God, voiced through the Prophets, and our Lord, Jesus, the Christ, peace be upon them.

In God alone, we worship. In God alone, we ask for advice. In God alone, we are shown the true path. In God alone, we trust, to set us on the straight path, on which we walk, so that we may join with him again in his Kingdom; not those who invoke his wrath, nor those who go astray. For this path is predetermined, for God is most wise, and master of our judgment,

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
~ Ephesians 1:4-6

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
~ Ephesians 1:10-12

To what end would it serve to go against God, for a Christian? To what end would it serve to go against the Christ, peace be upon him? In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace. To what end would it serve to ignore the Holy Bible? In which God has bound us, to his will, and given us wisdom and prudence. In which God has made known to us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he has purposed within himself, for he is most wise.

To what end would it serve, Madam?

With respect.

[Stephani]

Re: I need help

I am sure she has a reason for choosing her path... Guys, if you actually had a look at what wicca is about I am sure that you would see that it is not evil, try being a little tolerant. You need to be nice to people to expect them to be nice to you. I think that maybe you need to slow down on the eternal damning thing and realize that these are people just like yourselves.
I want to ask you a question... if your daughters or sons came to you one day and said that they want to be wiccan would you kill them or would you love your child no matter what they are? I think it is the same with these people... if you show them you can at least tolerate them then you will not have as many problems on your site. I think the main reason you have so many angry wiccans on here is because you put a youtube video online with a link to the site and they have responded.
Just my opinion, but maybe think about what it is like in their shoes.

[handmaiden]

Re: I need help

And who would you know unless you are sleeping with one??? And you still haven't answered my question... how do you expect this witch trial to be would wide??? No one where I live really takes Christians seriously let allow will run around doing your dirty work for you... And if anything it sounds like you are the evil ones... You say god love us then why would he want you to kill people???

nothing to say??? oh what a shame because I was looking forward to hearing what you have to say

Mini87;

Do you feel abandoned (or possibly triumphant) that Pastor Zeke abruptly broke off your posting tete e tete? He may have just gone to bed for the night.


He's like that sometimes.





Solictiously Yours,

Handmaiden

[Phoenix]

Re: I need help

You say god love us then why would he want you to kill people???

Hello witch,

God is quite clear that he doesn't love you,

When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
~ Deuteronomy 18:9-12

A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
~ Leviticus 20:27

May I ask, what made you think that he loved you?

[mini87]

Re: I need help

nothing to say??? oh what a shame because I was looking forward to hearing what you have to say

[mini87]

Re: I need help

And who would you know unless you are sleeping with one??? And you still haven't answered my question... how do you expect this witch trial to be would wide??? No one where I live really takes Christians seriously let allow will run around doing your dirty work for you... And if anything it sounds like you are the evil ones... You say god love us then why would he want you to kill people???

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I need help

That doesn't answer my questions and who lying here I think you mean liar??? Why the piffle are you calling me a slut... you don't know jack about me... and if you did you would know I am a virgin

No witch is a virgin.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[mini87]

Re: I need help

That doesn't answer my questions and who lying here I think you mean liar??? Why the fuck are you calling me a slut... you don't know jack about me... and if you did you would know I am a virgin

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I need help

Sorry, but we already know about you liars.

Read THIS.

[mini87]

Re: I need help

what is with all the yelling and peniteys... really dude... Someone seems a little trigger happy... I think someone is a little bit grumpy today You know that if you do start a witch trial you can only get in maybe as far as America because not many people are living in the dark ages like you... now guess what??? I am not a witch but I am wiccan so are you going to come burn me too... You don't even know where I live... You all act like you are tough but you as scared as a mouse... Wicca is a growing religion and that's because people come from your religion into our... rather then worring about burning people and stuff like that you might want to see why people are leaving

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I need help

We just what I think... I think witch trials are wrong because thousands of people die for not doing anything at all... didn't it say in the bible to no murder... I don't mean offense I just want to understand..

Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.


Does that help?

[mini87]

Re: I need help

We just what I think... I think witch trials are wrong because thousands of people die for not doing anything at all... didn't it say in the bible to no murder... I don't mean offense I just want to understand..