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  • Evil Lucien
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    • Jul 2010
    • 35

    #1

    Is there a hell?

    Christianity has developed a mechanism to keep their adherents in check. It asserts its power, largely on the back of a nasty little threat. Rather like an omnipotent stand over man. They call it hell. But what is hell? A fiery pit where you will suffer for eternity. It doesn’t seem to hold up as threat though.

    There is no evidence for it. If it lies under our feet, we haven’t stumbled across it drilling for oil. Nor have we chanced to find it through any process of mining. No souls are spewed forth in the eruptions of volcanoes that strike the planet from time to time.

    The Hubble telescope that can see stars 13.6 billion light years away, has never peered into its awful firmament. The microwave detectors that have mapped the residual microwave radiation left over from the big bang, similarly, show no signs of lusty demons, and blighted souls.

    The large Hadron collider gives us no insight into a hidden dimension that might hold a fiery pit. So where is it?


    It doesn't exist.


    Also the suffering for eternity thing, doesn’t ring true. I mean eternity is a long time, whether you’re suffering in hell, or in the throes of bliss, the effect will be the same on the timescale of eternity… You’ll go mad.

    Hell is a fiction.
  • Sister Charli
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Jun 2010
    • 1590

    #2
    Re: Is there a hell?

    Originally posted by Evil Lucien View Post
    Hell is a fiction.
    I wonder if you will still say that when you are burning in it.
    2 Chronicles 7:14
    14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land Australia.

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    • Lisa H
      Proud to be Blonde, Beautiful, and Baptist
      True Christian™
      • Jun 2010
      • 5070

      #3
      Re: Is there a hell?

      Originally posted by Evil Lucien View Post
      Hell is a fiction.
      Why do you insist on posting your rubbish. Hell exists, and if you do not start believing you will be going there.

      Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
      Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
      Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
      Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
      Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
      Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
      Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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      • Cranky Old Man
        Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
        You kids get off his lawn!
         
        • Jan 2010
        • 22373

        #4
        Re: Is there a hell?

        Originally posted by Evil Lucien View Post
        Christianity has developed a mechanism to keep their adherents in check. It asserts its power, largely on the back of a nasty little threat. Rather like an omnipotent stand over man. They call it hell.
        God did indeed create hell to keep us in check. Why else would we obey His commands?

        There is no evidence for it.
        There are a lot of things there is no evidence for. "Cogito ergo sum" (I think, therefore I am) is about the only thing we can be absolutely sure about. Everything else is based on assumptions. For example we could all be part of a huge computer simulation. So what it boils down to is what you choose to believe. And God made all that amazingly simple by giving us a book explaining how everything works, how we are supposed to behave, what the purpose of our lives is, etc.

        If it lies under our feet, we haven’t stumbled across it drilling for oil.
        You never heard of things like lava or volcano's?

        Nor have we chanced to find it through any process of mining. No souls are spewed forth in the eruptions of volcanoes that strike the planet from time to time.
        Did it occur to you souls without bodies might be invisible!?

        Also the suffering for eternity thing, doesn’t ring true. I mean eternity is a long time, whether you’re suffering in hell, or in the throes of bliss, the effect will be the same on the timescale of eternity… You’ll go mad.
        Yes you will. Which is why it is very smart to avoid going there.
        5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
        To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
        James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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        • Dirk
          True Christian™
          • Apr 2010
          • 1425

          #5
          Re: Is there a hell?

          How could any sane man doubt there is a thing like hell?

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          • Evil Lucien
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            • Jul 2010
            • 35

            #6
            Re: Is there a hell?

            God did indeed create hell to keep us in check. Why else would we obey His commands?
            Why would an omnipotent being capable of creating the universe need hell, I mean he practiced genocide, more than once?
            There are a lot of things there is no evidence for. "Cogito ergo sum" (I think, therefore I am) is about the only thing we can be absolutely sure about. Everything else is based on assumptions. For example we could all be part of a huge computer simulation. So what it boils down to is what you choose to believe. And God made all that amazingly simple by giving us a book explaining how everything works, how we are supposed to behave, what the purpose of our lives is, etc.
            All Gods have books, and lore’s, why does this book have more weight than the teachings of Zeus?
            If I am to make assumptions, shouldn’t I take all the information into account?
            Did it occur to you souls without bodies might be invisible!?

            Yes but this seems at odds with the concept of hell where something is pained. In fact we know the body feels pain because of our nervous system, there is no reason to think that the spirit, or soul, would feel anything, which in itself argues against hell.
            Yes you will. Which is why it is very smart to avoid going there.
            ...Ahh that goes for heaven too. What I’m saying is that the end result for those who go to hell, and those who go to heaven is the same… Insanity.

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            • Dirk
              True Christian™
              • Apr 2010
              • 1425

              #7
              Re: Is there a hell?

              I don't see any scripture in your reply, so I guess you must be lying.

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              • Sister Charli
                True Christian™
                True Christian™
                • Jun 2010
                • 1590

                #8
                Re: Is there a hell?

                Originally posted by Evil Lucien View Post
                why does this book have more weight than the teachings of Zeus?
                You want to follow Zeus's teachings then go right ahead.

                My cat likes Garfield comics. But my cat is a ginger tabby tiny brained animal. Not unlike Garfield.

                You too might be little of brain matter, not unlike my cat, and think that Garfield, or Zeus, or Buddha, or Islam, or Scientology spaceship aliens are the way to see your afterlife.

                Good luck to you .......... as you burn burn burn in HELL.
                2 Chronicles 7:14
                14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land Australia.

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                • Evil Lucien
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                  • Jul 2010
                  • 35

                  #9
                  Re: Is there a hell?

                  Originally posted by Dirk View Post
                  I don't see any scripture in your reply, so I guess you must be lying.
                  I don’t see any substance in your reply, so I guess you must be an idiot.


                  Originally posted by Charli Harley View Post
                  You want to follow Zeus's teachings then go right ahead.

                  My cat likes Garfield comics. But my cat is a ginger tabby tiny brained animal. Not unlike Garfield.

                  You too might be little of brain matter, not unlike my cat, and think that Garfield, or Zeus, or Buddha, or Islam, or Scientology spaceship aliens are the way to see your afterlife.

                  Good luck to you .......... as you burn burn burn in HELL.
                  I didn’t say I wanted to follow the teachings of Zeus. What does Ad hominem attack mean?

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                  • Warner S. Davidson
                    True Christian™
                    True Christian™
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 586

                    #10
                    Re: Is there a hell?

                    Originally posted by Evil Lucien View Post

                    Hell is a fiction.
                    Well if this so why do you waste your time writing about Hell, discrediting it's existance all on a True Christian™ forum................

                    I suspect there is some considerable doubt in your mind and that you are not entirely sure about your very own bold and intentionally offensive statements as above.

                    Read the KJV1611 and let the friendly Pastors her lead you to Jesus™.............And Salvation


                    Or you will burn in hell for eternity
                    2 Samuel 22:31

                    As for God, His way is perfect;
                    The word of the LORD is proven;
                    He is a shield to all who trust in Him.

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                    • Sister Charli
                      True Christian™
                      True Christian™
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1590

                      #11
                      Re: Is there a hell?

                      Originally posted by Evil Lucien View Post
                      I didn’t say I wanted to follow the teachings of Zeus. What does Ad hominem attack mean?
                      Did I belittle you or insult you in any manner?

                      Don't adopt the victim role. It is oh so pathetic and unbecoming.

                      I said "go right ahead" if that is what you believe.

                      Sorry I cant hang around to play tonight I have to rush off right now and read the latest Garfield comic to my fat cat.

                      2 Chronicles 7:14
                      14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land Australia.

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                      • Cranky Old Man
                        Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah
                        You kids get off his lawn!
                         
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 22373

                        #12
                        Re: Is there a hell?

                        Originally posted by Evil Lucien View Post
                        I don’t see any substance in your reply, so I guess you must be an idiot.
                        There is more substance in Dirk's posting than in everything you have ever written in your entire life combined.

                        I didn’t say I wanted to follow the teachings of Zeus.
                        Yes you did, perhaps you should start using our nice Preview button to read your own nonsense before you post it.

                        What does Ad hominem attack mean?
                        It means you have no real arguments and start throwing in big words in a failed attempt to distract everyone from the fact that you ran out of steam. You probably do the same with your retarded girlfriend when you fail to perform again.
                        5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
                        To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
                        James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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                        • Lisa H
                          Proud to be Blonde, Beautiful, and Baptist
                          True Christian™
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 5070

                          #13
                          Re: Is there a hell?

                          Originally posted by Evil Lucien View Post
                          I don’t see any substance in your reply, so I guess you must be an idiot.

                          I didn’t say I wanted to follow the teachings of Zeus. What does Ad hominem attack mean?
                          Are you the Devil

                          The name Lucien means light.
                          The latin meaning for Lucifer is light-bearer
                          Lucifer = devil
                          You call yourself Evil Light
                          Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                          Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                          Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                          Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                          Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                          Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                          • Brother Barnabus
                            True Christian™
                            True Christian™
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 388

                            #14
                            Re: Is there a hell?

                            You don't even need scripture , logic will tell you there's a hell.

                            Dark/Light In/Out , Smart/Dumb, Beautiful/Ugly , Skinny/Fat , Wet/Dry
                            Long/Short, Wide/Narrow, Left/Right, Shiny/Dull, Good/Evil, Sweet/Sour,
                            Conservative/Liberal, Happy/Sad, Hairy/Bald , Clean/Dirty, Pure/Contaminated, Top/Bottom, Selfish/Selfless, Alive/Dead. Old/New
                            Rich/Poor, Generous/Greedy, War/Peace Etc. Ad Nauseum

                            Why in Hell would EVERYTHING in the universe have an opposite except no hell??????????
                            Nahum 1:2

                            God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.


                            If God is Love ... Who created Hell??!!

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                            • Evil Lucien
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                              • Jul 2010
                              • 35

                              #15
                              Re: Is there a hell?

                              Originally posted by Warner S. Davidson View Post
                              Well if this so why do you waste your time writing about Hell, discrediting it's existance all on a True Christian™ forum................
                              To assure those that live in fear… That there is nothing to fear but fear itself.
                              Originally posted by Warner S. Davidson View Post
                              I suspect there is some considerable doubt in your mind and that you are not entirely sure about your very own bold and intentionally offensive statements as above.
                              No, but I do seek to question your concept of what is.
                              Originally posted by Warner S. Davidson View Post
                              Read the KJV1611 and let the friendly Pastors her lead you to Jesus™.............And Salvation


                              Or you will burn in hell for eternity
                              You are not God, and have no power over my soul… Don’t tread in Gods shoes – they’re too big for you.

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