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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
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    #1

    Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

    In a stunt designed to offend Christians everywhere, the atheist religion has sunk to a new low.



    Atheists Break Out New Ritual Tool: The Blow-Dryer
    Nonbelievers Adopt Provocative Ceremony to Make a Point About Baptism

    Wielding a blow-dryer, a leading atheist conducted a mass "de-baptism" of fellow non-believers and symbolically dried up the offending waters that were sprinkled on their foreheads as young children.

    At the annual American Atheists Convention, one of atheism's premier provocateurs, Edwin Kagin, faced the crowd and raised high a hairdryer labeled "Reason and Truth."

    Said one woman who travelled from Cincinnati to undergo the de-baptism, "I was baptized Catholic. I don't remember any of it at all." The woman, Cambridge Boxterman, 24, added, "According to my mother I screamed like a banshee, and those are her words, so you can see that even as a young child I didn't want to be baptized. It's not fair. I was born atheist and they were forcing me to become Catholic."

    Kagin, who is American Atheists' national legal director, firmly believes that regardless of one's religious beliefs, each person has the right to say or do what he or she wants, provided it is within the law. In the past, he has reportedly called out parents who subject their children to strict fundamentalist religious education, referring to it as child abuse.

    "It is teaching children that the world works in other ways than it does," he said. "This can be extremely dangerous."

    "They are practicing child abuse in teaching that the world operates in ways other than it does," he told the convention crowd. "And in my opinion, they are engaged in terrorism by weakening our nation and our understanding of science and things with which we can defend ourselves and progress. If it had not been for these fools we could have been at the stars 2,000 years ago."

    Kagin, author of "Baubles of Blasphemy," has a history of behaving in ways that elicit a rise from God-fearing people. He's known to have asked female atheists to dress in burqas and perform a song, "Back in their Burquas Again," he's referred to Mary Magdalene as a deranged hooker and he's called the Holy Eucharist "Swallow the Leader."

    Kagin said religion should not be used to determine how people ought to live their lives. "They're doing harm to women who want to control their own bodies and their own reproductive rights," he said. "They're doing harm to a great number of people and they're saying that 'what we're doing is sacred and inviolate. We can do whatever we want to your rights, and you can not react.' That's what they're doing."



    Kagin: De-Baptism is 'Spiritually Cleansing'
    It is in this same spirit that Kagin performs the de-baptism.

    Standing at a podium wearing a long brown monk's robe, Kagin read with the oratorical skill of a preacher from a set of pages in his hand and invited participants to come forward to be de-baptized.

    He recited a few mock-Latin syllables, to the audience's amusement. An assistant produced a large hairdryer, labeled "Reason and Truth," and handed it to Kagin. The man who'd elected himself to be de-baptized stood before him. Kagin turned on the hairdryer, blowing the hot air in his face in an attempt to symbolically dry up his baptismal waters.

    "Come forward now and receive the spirit of hot air that taketh away the stigma and taketh away the remnants of the stain of baptismal water," Kagin shouts.

    Atheists poke fun at baptisms in this ceremony, saying they believe their waving around a hairdryer holds the same level of magical and spiritual powers as does the baptismal ceremony.

    Kagin said that many people have undergone de-baptism."Many have taken it as somewhat of a joke, but some have found it truly, if you will, a spiritually cleansing experience," he said.

    Kagin has said he doesn't particularly care who he's offending with his actions, and that he is acting completely within his rights. "You can mock anything you want because you have the right to," he said. "Humor is humor and what types of humor are you going to outlaw?" he said.

    He conceded that although it may not be good manners to continually take a mocking stance toward religion, "in many cases, it is the only real response."

    Kagin said he thought some people might get overly offended by his poking fun at religion. "If someone is so secure in their faith, why are they the least bit concerned about some little atheist mocking them?" he asked. "I think the reason they are worried and concerned is the very deep fear that if everyone doesn't believe it, maybe it isn't so."

    For Kagin, this struggle between godless and god-fearing hits very close to home: his son, Steve Kagin, is a fundamentalist minister in Kansas.

    He founded Camp Quest, a secular summer camp for young nonbelievers, many of whom, he says, have been harrassed or hounded for their lack of faith.

    And then there's this interesting twist. His own son, Steve Kagin, is a fundamentalist minister in Kansas.

    Kagin said that his son claims to have a personal revelation in Jesus Christ. "I am totally unable to say that's not true," he said. "There are examples all through history of quite sane people who have had such experiences. I don't think it is but I'm not going to say it isn't."


    Kagin: 'As Much Merit as the Original Baptism'

    When asked if he is pained by their opposing views on this issue, Kagin chuckled. "Oh, one wonders where they went wrong," he said. He and his son, Steven, have an excellent relationship, Kagin said, but they do have their limits.

    "We just understand there are certain things we really can't, at this point, talk about," he said.

    "I don't lose much sleep over [it] because everyone has the right to do what they want to do within the law," he said. "That's what I believe in."

    As Cambridge completed her de-baptism, she expressed no qualms about how it might be perceived. "Sometimes you've got to have shock value," she said. "There's some times where you just have to shock people into getting attention and from there, they ask questions... And maybe they learn a bit."

    Kagin said that he saw the conflict between atheists and believers as America's religious civil war. He said bad manners are a reasonable weapon in that war, but he said it was unlikely that atheists would emerge as the victors.

    "Atheists have no chance whatsoever of prevailing in a direct confrontation with believers," he said. "There are far too many [believers]."
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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  • Nobar King
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    • Sep 2007
    • 23748

    #2
    Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

    I couldn't find a 'roll eyes' emoticon that is big enough to express how I feel about hair-dryer de-baptisms.
    May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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    • Mr Holyfire
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      • Nov 2009
      • 99

      #3
      Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

      What will the Atheists come up with next?
      They sure do love to oppose God, don't they?
      Leonard Paul Holyfire
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      • Billy Bob Jenkins
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        Hates anal sex. And trees.
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        • May 2010
        • 8337

        #4
        Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

        That sure is a long way to go just to justify homersexurality and baby killing. Of course, atheists have been blowing hot air since ancient Greece.
        The Only Real Climate Change Will be Hell!

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        • Lisa H
          Proud to be Blonde, Beautiful, and Baptist
          True Christian™
          • Jun 2010
          • 5070

          #5
          Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

          "some have found it truly, if you will, a spiritually cleansing experience"

          They want to be spiritually cleansed by satan. Their hair will not get wet in hell.
          Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
          Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
          Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
          Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
          Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
          Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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          • demonsmessenger
            Confirmed Enemy of God
            • Jul 2010
            • 30

            #6
            Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

            What a king. Respect this man people. As he is better than you in EVERY possible way.

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            • WilliamJenningsBryan
              True Christian™
               
              • Jan 2007
              • 9384

              #7
              Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

              As amusing as these atheists are with their blow dryers thinking they can erase the Power of the Holy Spirit of a Christian Baptism, this article brings up some serious issues. Most people that realize that the one true faith of Landover Baptist do not have much difficulty becoming True Christians™. Indeed, it is a simple matter to renounce your former faith except in a few cases. Mooselimbs have a particular problem in that the Koran calls for the killing of anyone that renounces Allah and the Koran. Godly George W. Bush was truly doing the work of God in his mission to kill mooselimbs.

              In my own case I had a great deal of difficulty with the cathylicks when I became a True Christian™. Whatever you do, don't even think about going near a cathylick church – much less talk to their priests.

              How do I go about getting excommunicated?
              January 16, 1998

              Dear Cecil:

              I'm one very disgruntled and estranged member of the Catholic church — so disgruntled, in fact, that I really don't want to be counted as a member. How can I get excommunicated? I assume it's not as simple as writing a letter (though this probably only means the church is more bureaucratic than most mail-order CD clubs). How can I make my intentions known to the right offices?

              — Bobby Jo Wojtyla, Cary, North Carolina

              Cecil replies:

              I think you fail to grasp the concept here, bubba. The purpose of excommunication isn't to allow you to quit or make a political statement or pursue some other private agenda. It's to allow the church to throw you out. If you're already out — that is, if you don't partake of the sacraments or otherwise participate in Catholic activities (I assume this describes your situation) — excommunication is likely to strike church authorities as a waste of good holy water.

              That's not to say you can't get excommunicated; on the contrary, canon law describes a number of situations in which excommunication is automatic. But these days formal proceedings are rare and reserved mostly for renegade clerics and such. Too bad you weren't around centuries ago, when they were bigger on this sort of thing. You could have gotten the old "book, bell, and candle" routine (more on this in a sec) or even been burned at the stake.

              Strictly speaking, excommunication doesn't render you a non-Catholic. It merely means you're a Catholic who's been damned to hell. What's more, it isn't intended to permanently separate you from the church; rather, it's a "medicinal" procedure, meant to make you see the error of your ways. If in fact you do become reconciled later, you won't be rebaptized, just forgiven. In the eyes of the church, once a Catholic, always a Catholic. Irritating, I know, but as I say, this wasn't set up to accommodate you.

              There's also a practical problem. You can't have your name stricken from the Catholic membership rolls, because there aren't any such rolls. Sure, some records may be kept at the parish level, and if you're the determined type I suppose you could get your name crossed off those. But the church maintains no central registry. They figure God can keep track.

              Fine, you say, but I still want to get excommunicated. OK, let me get out my — whoops, Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft. Gotta get this library organized. Ah, here we are, the Codex Juris Canonici. As revised in 1983, there are nine grounds for excommunication — physical attack on the pope, "violating the sacred species," procuring an abortion, and so on … all a little drastic. Your best bet is "apostasy, heresy, or schism," canon 1364. Probably the simplest thing is to join the Presbyterians. Voila, latae sententiae (automatic) excommunication.

              But I think what you're after is an official pronouncement of excommunication (ferendae sententiae). Apparently the only way to do this nowadays is to make a conspicuous pest of yourself. The ultraconservative French archbishop Marcel LeFebvre did this by consecrating bishops without authorization, which got him excommunicated in 1988. If he could get himself formally kicked out, so can you, though it may require establishing your own schismatic sect.

              Who knows, maybe you could get the Holy See so ticked off they'd dust off the old "book, bell, and candle" ceremony referred to above. First a bishop and twelve priests appear holding lighted candles. The bishop then recites this bloodcurdling formula:

              We separate him, together with his accomplices and abettors, from the precious body and blood of the Lord and from the society of all Christians; we exclude him from our holy mother the church in heaven and on earth; we declare him excommunicate and anathema; we judge him damned, with the devil and his angels and all the reprobate, to eternal fire until he shall recover himself from the toils of the devil and return to amendment and to penitence.

              The priests answer, "So be it!," whereupon the whole crew extinguish their candles by dashing them to the ground. Dunno about you, but if they threatened me with this I'd never miss Sunday Mass again.

              - Cecil Adams

              Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
              brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
              ...and get off my lawn
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              • The Disciple
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                • Jul 2010
                • 74

                #8
                Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

                Good grief, they think blow jobs will insult & mock god !!

                When will their bitterness end ?


                Job.7

                1. [11] Therefore I will not refrain my mouth; I will speak in the anguish of my spirit; I will complain in the bitterness of my soul.
                Exod.22

                " 1. [17] If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins."

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                • BelieverInGod
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 9269

                  #9
                  Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

                  So now they've invented anti-baptism, but they scream and screech that it's not a religion?

                  They have their own Bible, churches, anti-baptism, tithing, etc. But it's not a religion, nope, not at all....
                  Drama queen

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                  • gurgle
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                    • Jul 2010
                    • 15

                    #10
                    Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

                    What I find saddest of all is the reasoning behind and the responses to this post, which was to point out the offense towards Christians. Being Christians, those that have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior therefore striving to live for Him, shouldn't the meaning behind this post be to point out why people like this are most of all in need of Jesus's love? Obviously these people's are hurting and empty and have felt the need to succumb to these types of actions in order to gain some sort of "fulfilment". And instead of "damning" them, shouldn't Christians provide the example through actions of love of how these people can obtain true happiness through Jesus Christ? Of course these people are going to "mock" and "oppose" God, because their eyes are closed and they are lost. Jesus said "Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do"(Luke 23:34). Because they do not have Jesus in their heart, they are blind to his love.

                    At the end of the post, Pastor Ezekiel points out all the individuals "Jesus will Damn". None of those scriptures point out that those individuals will be damned by Jesus, but points out those that are lost and are not living the life Jesus wants them to live. Instead of damning them, "God did not send his Son into the world to condemn(damn it as you would say) the world, but to save the world through Him."(John 3:17).

                    The title of this blog says "Unsaved Unwelcome". Can someone please explain to me how this is Christ-like? The bible tells us that "For ALL have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God". Meaning we were all born unsaved. How is anyone to know about Jesus's love if they never feel welcomed by His people? Matthew 9:13 tells us that Jesus "did not come to call the righteous, but sinners". Jesus's love is not just for the Christian, but especially for the sinner and He makes multiple references to how He has love specifically for the "lost sheep". As Christians, it's our duty to exude that love also, especially towards the "Unsaved".
                    So my challenge to you is that instead of finding all the reasons that the lost oppose God's people, find reasons why God's people need to Jesus's love towards the "unsaved". In this way, they will trully know the power of Jesus. Matthew 5:43-48 "43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
                    Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                    • Brother Alex
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 860

                      #11
                      Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

                      Originally posted by gurgie32531 View Post
                      What I find saddest of all is the reasoning behind and the responses to this post, which was to point out the offense towards Christians. Being Christians, those that have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior therefore striving to live for Him, shouldn't the meaning behind this post be to point out why people like this are most of all in need of Jesus's love?
                      No.
                      Proverbs 6:16-19: These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

                      Psalm 139:21-22:
                      Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
                      Obviously these people's are hurting and empty and have felt the need to succumb to these types of actions in order to gain some sort of "fulfilment". And instead of "damning" them, shouldn't Christians provide the example through actions of love of how these people can obtain true happiness through Jesus Christ?
                      Look, friend, due to their lack of intelligence these atheists will never stop hating Jesus until their judgment comes. We shouldn't bother trying to convert these fools. Hating them is much simpler.
                      Psalm 5:5-6: The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
                      Of course these people are going to "mock" and "oppose" God, because their eyes are closed and they are lost.... Because they do not have Jesus in their heart, they are blind to his love.
                      Indeed, and Jesus will damn them for that.
                      Mark 16:16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
                      Friend, it seems to me like you're one of those false Christians who only follow bits and pieces from the Holy Bible according to their own unsaved opinions. If you want to be Saved© you need to follow the entire Bible, not just the "good" parts. Why do you hate Jesus so much?
                      Matthew 4:4: Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

                      James 2:10: For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
                      YIC,
                      Alex
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                      • gurgle
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                        • Jul 2010
                        • 15

                        #12
                        Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

                        Originally posted by Brother Alex View Post
                        No.
                        Proverbs 6:16-19: These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

                        Psalm 139:21-22:
                        Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
                        Look, friend, due to their lack of intelligence these atheists will never stop hating Jesus until their judgment comes. We shouldn't bother trying to convert these fools. Hating them is much simpler.
                        Psalm 5:5-6: The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
                        Indeed, and Jesus will damn them for that.
                        Mark 16:16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
                        Friend, it seems to me like you're one of those false Christians who only follow bits and pieces from the Holy Bible according to their own unsaved opinions. If you want to be Saved© you need to follow the entire Bible, not just the "good" parts. Why do you hate Jesus so much?
                        Matthew 4:4: Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

                        James 2:10: For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
                        YIC,
                        Alex

                        Another sad response.... For the majority of your responses come from the old testament and have not one verse on hate that comes directly from Jesus's own mouth. Where is the Christ-likeness? I guess if you want to go back to the old testament you are going to sacrifice a lamb for atonement of sins?

                        I guess I'll repeat back to you friend, Matthew 4:4: Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. You quote this but make no mention of the following verse "43 You have heard that it has been said, You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy. 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he makes his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love them which love you, what reward have you? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if you salute your brothers only, what do you more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

                        Words DIRECTLY from the KJV and the mouth of Jesus. Yet you profess hate? And say it is easier? So you are into taking the easier road when following Jesus? But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
                        —Romans 5:8

                        So how can one claim to be Christ-like yet justify hating the sinner? There is a difference, friend, between hating the sin and the sinner. I am glad Jesus never took your attitude and hated the sinner or he would have never sacrificed Himself. I am sure that would have been much "easier" for him also.
                        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                        • Levi Jones
                          Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
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                          • Jul 2009
                          • 13930

                          #13
                          Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

                          Originally posted by gurgie32531 View Post

                          So how can one claim to be Christ-like yet justify hating the sinner? There is a difference, friend, between hating the sin and the sinner. I am glad Jesus never took your attitude and hated the sinner or he would have never sacrificed Himself. I am sure that would have been much "easier" for him also.
                          Do you not believe in the Old Testament, friend? You yourself posted that we should follow every word that proceeds from the mouth of the LORD.

                          We preach just like Jesus and the Apostle Paul did.

                          Matthew 15:22-27 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
                          But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
                          But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
                          Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
                          But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
                          And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

                          Jesus echoes the same sentiment here.

                          Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

                          Jesus tells us that He will make our enemies a footstool.

                          Luke 20:43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.


                          Paul tells us the following.

                          1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

                          Now, what were you saying about us not being loving enough?
                          Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                          • gurgle
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                            • Jul 2010
                            • 15

                            #14
                            Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

                            What I think is interesting also is that you pick scripture to satisfy your hate but where is your scripture to satisfy Jesus's Love? That does not go along with the "Scripture or it didn't happen" policy. You quote what I myself said but make no regard to scriptures I've quoted said to be spoken by Jesus himself.

                            Matthew 23:13-14
                            13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
                            14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

                            Its those of you that profess un-founded hate that make these long prayers and shut the kingdom of heaven against men.

                            Another SCRIPTURE taken from the WORD of the LORD
                            Matthew 18:21-35; Matthew 19:1
                            21 Then came Peter to him, and said , Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. 23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. 24 And when he had begun to reckon , one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay , his lord commanded him to be sold , and his wife, and children, and all that he had , and payment to be made . 26 The servant therefore fell down , and worshipped him, saying , Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion , and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. 28 But the same servant went out , and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat , saying , Pay me that thou owest . 29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying , Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt . 31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done , they were very sorry , and came and told unto their lord all that was done . 32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 34 And his lord was wroth , and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

                            Please tell me where the hate for the sinner is in this scripture? "Scripture or it didn't happen"?
                            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                            • Levi Jones
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                              #15
                              Re: Atheists Find New Ways to Mock God

                              Originally posted by gurgie32531 View Post
                              What I think is interesting also is that you pick scripture to satisfy your hate but where is your scripture to satisfy Jesus's Love? That does not go along with the "Scripture or it didn't happen" policy. You quote what I myself said but make no regard to scriptures I've quoted said to be spoken by Jesus himself.

                              Matthew 23:13-14
                              13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
                              14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
                              What does this have to do with us?
                              We are not Pharisees nor scribes. Personally, I don't like the accusation at all.

                              Originally posted by gurgie32531 View Post
                              Its those of you that profess un-founded hate that make these long prayers and shut the kingdom of heaven against men.
                              Still, you have nothing.

                              Originally posted by gurgie32531 View Post
                              Another SCRIPTURE taken from the WORD of the LORD
                              Matthew 18:21-35; Matthew 19:1
                              21 Then came Peter to him, and said , Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. 23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. 24 And when he had begun to reckon , one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay , his lord commanded him to be sold , and his wife, and children, and all that he had , and payment to be made . 26 The servant therefore fell down , and worshipped him, saying , Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion , and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. 28 But the same servant went out , and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat , saying , Pay me that thou owest . 29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying , Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt . 31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done , they were very sorry , and came and told unto their lord all that was done . 32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: 33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? 34 And his lord was wroth , and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
                              Who is my brother? It's certainly not false Christian prophets like you.

                              Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

                              Originally posted by gurgie32531 View Post
                              Please tell me where the hate for the sinner is in this scripture? "Scripture or it didn't happen"?
                              Is love sitting idly by while people sin? Of course not. We are taught to preach the Word.
                              Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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