[Brother Temperance]

Re: The case for atheism

Now that I have your attention, let me introduce myself. I am 72 years old. I grew up in the South, where I learned to hate Jim Crow, went to school in the North, and now live in the West.

You sound like a pretty hateful fellow. Did you know that God is Love?

I will proudly accept your damnation. If God thinks and feels anything like you, I would have to hold myself superior to both you and God. Imaginary damnation is preferable to imaginary virtue.

You sound pretty prideful. Did you know that pride is a sin?

Pastor Ezekiel,

Three questions:

1. Does all of your information about God's will and God's plan come from the Bible, including the validation of the Bible itself as an authority?

No, it's verified by external reality. For instance, the Bible says that God created the Earth, and, lo and behold, the Earth exists, exactly as the Bible says it should. If any Christian opinion seems to clash with the secular "facts", you can be sure that's just Satan up to one of his tricks. Or God testing you. Can you find any single statement about God that you believe to be factually incorrect that cannot be explained by Satan playing tricks or else by God testing you?

2. If God is the answer to all the questions about the universe that I can't
answer, what is the answer to God? Where did God come from?

God isn't a question. He is eternal. Where did the Big Bang come from?

What is a chanukistani terrorist?

I'll defer to your expertise on that subject.
Now I've got a question for you: if God isn't real, who gave Christopher Hitchens cancer?

As i said before, i do accept Jesus, i Do accept God, however i choose a different path, IF i knew that God did what i see as bad, for a Good pupose in the future, IF God proved that theres also good in him and not just bad, IF God did anything so i as a person felt "Welcome" in Christianity, then i might turn, but as people inhere post all the time: What makes you think God wants to become your friend?"

Nothing. That's your job. Think of it like Clueless or Mean Girls. God is the ultimate popular kid. You can't just turn up as the dorky new kid at the High School that He created and expect Him to have any time for you, not even if you're Lindsey Lohan. You need to work on impressing Him, not the other way around. But be careful: not even the meanest "plastic" would think of sending a flood to kill the vast majority of the Earth's population, whereas God has a proven track record of that sort of thing, so you'll want to work extra-hard on making Him like you!

Well exactly Noting, all God wants us to, is OBEY and get only Crap in return.

Do you really consider the prospect of praising Him endlessly for all eternity to be "crap"?

I mean why should i just have sex with 1 woman when i can have more? (even on same time if i am lucky)

Let's be realistic here: that is not going to happen, friend.

why can i not soil my body as pleased with Whiskey and Smoke? Allfun are taken out of the life by God and Jesus, and then you still want me to follow them?

Do you have any idea what Hell is like? I'll give you a clue: it's not fun.

Beside If i get prove that Hell is bad, and not fun as i think, i can just ask God to forgive my sins, and claim thaty Jesus died for my sins, andi am home free

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The case for atheism

Actualy this was NOT a attack on brother Enoch, this was a answer to hes question


Even I can see that DaveTheInfidel is a bit thick headed.


As i said before, i do accept Jesus, i Do accept God, however i choose a different path, IF i knew that God did what i see as bad, for a Good pupose in the future, IF God proved that theres also good in him and not just bad, IF God did anything so i as a person felt "Welcome" in Christianity, then i might turn, but as people inhere post all the time: What makes you think God wants to become your friend?"

Well exactly Noting, all God wants us to, is OBEY and get only Crap in return.
I mean why should i just have sex with 1 woman when i can have more? (even on same time if i am lucky), why can i not soil my body as pleased with Whiskey and Smoke? Allfun are taken out of the life by God and Jesus, and then you still want me to follow them?

Beside If i get prove that Hell is bad, and not fun as i think, i can just ask God to forgive my sins, and claim thaty Jesus died for my sins, andi am home free

How is demanding that God and Jesus meet your standards and turn a blind eye to your sins accepting Jesus?

God's not this needy other person begging for your friendship and bending over backwards to change to please you. It's more the other way around.

[tomasespensen]

Re: The case for atheism

Actualy this was NOT a attack on brother Enoch, this was a answer to hes question

Now a question for you: Are all Canadians as thick as you

Even I can see that DaveTheInfidel is a bit thick headed.

So when are you going to accept Jesus?

As i said before, i do accept Jesus, i Do accept God, however i choose a different path, IF i knew that God did what i see as bad, for a Good pupose in the future, IF God proved that theres also good in him and not just bad, IF God did anything so i as a person felt "Welcome" in Christianity, then i might turn, but as people inhere post all the time: What makes you think God wants to become your friend?"

Well exactly Noting, all God wants us to, is OBEY and get only Crap in return.
I mean why should i just have sex with 1 woman when i can have more? (even on same time if i am lucky), why can i not soil my body as pleased with Whiskey and Smoke? Allfun are taken out of the life by God and Jesus, and then you still want me to follow them?

Beside If i get prove that Hell is bad, and not fun as i think, i can just ask God to forgive my sins, and claim thaty Jesus died for my sins, andi am home free

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The case for atheism

Brother Enoch has repented of his Canadistani heritage many times and is largely considered an honorary American. You'd know that if you bothered to get to know people before launching personal attacks against them.

So when are you going to accept Jesus?
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[tomasespensen]

Re: The case for atheism

No Obviously you are not, Brother Enoch

[Brother Enoch]

Re: The case for atheism

Pastor Ezekiel,

Three questions:

1. Does all of your information about God's will and God's plan come from the Bible, including the validation of the Bible itself as an authority?

2. If God is the answer to all the questions about the universe that I can't
answer, what is the answer to God? Where did God come from?

3. What is a chanukistani terrorist?

Man must dare to live with unanswered questions.
What the hell is that?

Yes, God, you, faith.

All good now?

(And btw, that was 4 questions.)

Now a question for you: Are all Canadians as thick as you?

[davidbrainfart]

Re: The case for atheism

Pastor Ezekiel,

Three questions:

1. Does all of your information about God's will and God's plan come from the Bible, including the validation of the Bible itself as an authority?

2. If God is the answer to all the questions about the universe that I can't
answer, what is the answer to God? Where did God come from?

3. What is a chanukistani terrorist?

Man must dare to live with unanswered questions.
What the hell is that?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: The case for atheism

You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

So you admit to being a liar. Thank you for being honest. About being a liar.


My church doesn't support racism or sexism, and neither does Landover.

We support God's Law as provided in the Bible.

As for "voodoo economics", I've never preached on Ronald Reagan. I'm not an economist, I'm a man of God.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The case for atheism

You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

That's God's morality you're dissing there, friend.

Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The case for atheism

Denying the existence of God is not unbelief but an exercise in self-deception. You may know things, but you cannot account for anything you know. Arguing against God's existence would be on par with arguing against the existence of air, breathing it all the while. You use the universal, immaterial, unchanging laws of logic, mathematics, science, and absolute morality in order to come to rational decisions, but you cannot account for them. These laws are not the only way God has revealed himself to you, but they are sufficient to show the irrationality of your thinking, and expose your guilt for denying Him.

There is a reason that you deny the existence of God and it has nothing to do with proof. I can show this to you. Do you think that you can continue to deny God because surely somewhere, sometime, a philosopher or scientist will come up with an explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws apart from God?' Did you ever try to come up with an alternate explanation on your own?

Hoping that an alternate explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws can someday be found apart from God, is a blind leap of faith, or wishful thinking. Isn't it interesting that this is exactly what professed unbelievers accuse Christians of?

Please examine the real reason why you are running from God. It is my prayer that God will open your eyes and change your heart so that you may be saved from your sin, embraced by His ferocious love, and that you will tithe robustly immediately using the Paypal button at the bottom of this page.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The case for atheism

You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

Dave, you athiests think you have a handle on this sort of thing. But you are just guessing what is the right thing to do. When you bumble along guessing, you make mistakes. We follow the Supreme Guidebook(r), signed off by Our Creator(c).
Our Church nor does any True Christian(tm) support those things. We do however, Support God(tm) and His infinite wisdom as written in the KJV. So if you find fault with our actions, perhaps it is not us you are having a problem with. In which case, you need to discuss it with Him. Is that too much to ask during this Holy season?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: The case for atheism

You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

Show us where either Rev. Rodimer's church or our church supports anything contrary to Scripture.

[davidbrainfart]

Re: The case for atheism

You are not interested in thoughtful discussion. You are here in a sick attempt to turn Christians away from God and prove your whiny, self-absorbed little self "right". That is, indeed, "going yap, yap, yappity yap".

I wasn't sure of the rationale for the infraction. If you are right it is because your pastor disagrees with me.

You are not 72 years old. I'd be surprised if you are 27. A 72-year-old man would have better things to do with his very limited remaining time on Earth -- unless he were truly pathetic -- than to join a Christian church's private discussion forum and attack the people praising Jesus therein.

I wouldn't walk into your church and shout "Your religion is based on falsehoods." Your forum is on the Internet. I Googled "Why Atheism is Wrong," because I like discussing my beliefs. The discussion so far is disappointing and the infractions are baffling. Yes I am 72 years old and I look forward to spending my secular Christmas with my mother-in-law, my wife, my children, my grandchildren and my great grandchild.

Why don't you wander down the street to your Mommy's church, and tell the congregation there what a bunch of dummies you think they are, instead of sniping your hatred of God at strangers from behind your computer?

Is it because you're a little coward? That'd be my guess.

I don't go to church any more but I do occassionaly have conversations with people who do. I don't hate God because I do not believe he exists, but I sure would if I believed in the kind of God that is promoted on this web page.

Ah, more evidence that atheists do not have, or even respect, basic morality. We will add this to the file.

You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The case for atheism

To all the kids who are out of school and studying thier Bibles. This person (the starter of the thread, the 'OP' to the internet savy) is a prime example of why being BFF's with Jesus is the right thing to do.
The OP hates God and will have a miserable Christmas.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: The case for atheism

Now that I have your attention, let me introduce myself. I am 72 years old.

I submitted a post and somehow incurred an infraction, namely "going yap, yap, yappity yap." That's a new one on me. I'm beginning to suspect that, not only are the arguments against atheism highly fallacious, but that this is not a forum for thoughtful discussion on the issue.

You are not interested in thoughtful discussion. You are here in a sick attempt to turn Christians away from God and prove your whiny, self-absorbed little self "right". That is, indeed, "going yap, yap, yappity yap".

You are not 72 years old. I'd be surprised if you are 27. A 72-year-old man would have better things to do with his very limited remaining time on Earth -- unless he were truly pathetic -- than to join a Christian church's private discussion forum and attack the people praising Jesus therein.

Why don't you wander down the street to your Mommy's church, and tell the congregation there what a bunch of dummies you think they are, instead of sniping your hatred of God at strangers from behind your computer?

Is it because you're a little coward? That'd be my guess.

Imaginary damnation is preferable to imaginary virtue.

Ah, more evidence that atheists do not have, or even respect, basic morality. We will add this to the file.