The case for atheism

[davidbrainfart]

Now that I have your attention, let me introduce myself. I am 72 years old. I grew up in the South, where I learned to hate Jim Crow, went to school in the North, and now live in the West.

My parents met at Trevecca Nazarene College in Nashville. My father's father was a Nazarene minister. My parents rebelled against their rigid fundamentalist background. My mother took her children to the (Southern) Baptist church down the street to provide a more liberal influence in our religious upbringing. If we had lived a mile down the street I would have been brought up as a Methodist.

The Baptists don't believe in infant baptism. I came forward to baptism when I was 9 years old, and then again when I was 14. I wanted to be sure I was saved. My Sunday school teacher taught me that the existence of the universe was proof of the existence of God, because the universe required a creator. When I was 17 the question crossed my mind "Who created God?" At the College Bookstore I found Bertrand Russell's essay "Why I am Not a Christian" and I found that he asked the same question. For several nights after that, I prayed to God that I would retain my Christian faith. God did not answer my prayer and I cheerfully became an atheist.

I submitted a post and somehow incurred an infraction, namely "going yap, yap, yappity yap." That's a new one on me. I'm beginning to suspect that, not only are the arguments against atheism highly fallacious, but that this is not a forum for thoughtful discussion on the issue.

I will proudly accept your damnation. If God thinks and feels anything like you, I would have to hold myself superior to both you and God. Imaginary damnation is preferable to imaginary virtue.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Looks like the yappity-yap infraction was well deserved.

But on to greener pastures: now that you are in the December of your years, are you ready to discard the atheist fad and once and for all accept Our Lord Jesus Christ as your Personal Savior? Because frankly the idea of an old man getting roasted alive forever makes me a little ill (imagine the smell!!!).

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth
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[Jack O'fagan]

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Going yap, yap, yappity yap again?

[davidbrainfart]

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OK, so you don't like the "yap, yap, yappity, yap." Define "yap, yap, yappity, yap" and tell me why it is an infraction. I think it means taking time and space to make a case you don't want to hear. The original post, with all its fallacious reasoning was much longer than my own "yap, yap, yappity, yap."

[ExGay Alex]

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I think yap, yap, yappity, yap means rattling one for several paragraphs without praising Jesus or showing appreciation for sacrifice even once. 1 Corinthians 10:31.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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Good heavens, another one vying for the spot of village atheist in Freehold. Get in line, there are more that a few of them around here – along with that cathylick Father Mo that everyone seems to tolerate – if only for a few laughs.

As to the infractions – frankly they are quit mild, and I see that one of them expires on Jesus' Birthday. The infinite Mercy of the Holy Spirit is with you tonight.

[Redeemed Papist]

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What is it with atheists at Christmas. Do they feel the fires of Hell licking at their heels a little stronger and feel the need to shout a little louder?

[Bobby-Joe]

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I submitted a post and somehow incurred an infraction, namely "going yap, yap, yappity yap." That's a new one on me. I'm beginning to suspect that, not only are the arguments against atheism highly fallacious, but that this is not a forum for thoughtful discussion on the issue.

Nonsense friend, we it comes to arguments against Atheism well we TRUE Christian are full of it, like we are full of it when it comes to the Love of Jesus. GLORY!

So ask away and we will show you were you are wrong about the nonresistance of God.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Now that I have your attention, let me introduce myself. I am 72 years old.

I submitted a post and somehow incurred an infraction, namely "going yap, yap, yappity yap." That's a new one on me. I'm beginning to suspect that, not only are the arguments against atheism highly fallacious, but that this is not a forum for thoughtful discussion on the issue.

You are not interested in thoughtful discussion. You are here in a sick attempt to turn Christians away from God and prove your whiny, self-absorbed little self "right". That is, indeed, "going yap, yap, yappity yap".

You are not 72 years old. I'd be surprised if you are 27. A 72-year-old man would have better things to do with his very limited remaining time on Earth -- unless he were truly pathetic -- than to join a Christian church's private discussion forum and attack the people praising Jesus therein.

Why don't you wander down the street to your Mommy's church, and tell the congregation there what a bunch of dummies you think they are, instead of sniping your hatred of God at strangers from behind your computer?

Is it because you're a little coward? That'd be my guess.

Imaginary damnation is preferable to imaginary virtue.

Ah, more evidence that atheists do not have, or even respect, basic morality. We will add this to the file.

[James Hutchins]

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To all the kids who are out of school and studying thier Bibles. This person (the starter of the thread, the 'OP' to the internet savy) is a prime example of why being BFF's with Jesus is the right thing to do.
The OP hates God and will have a miserable Christmas.

[davidbrainfart]

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You are not interested in thoughtful discussion. You are here in a sick attempt to turn Christians away from God and prove your whiny, self-absorbed little self "right". That is, indeed, "going yap, yap, yappity yap".

I wasn't sure of the rationale for the infraction. If you are right it is because your pastor disagrees with me.

You are not 72 years old. I'd be surprised if you are 27. A 72-year-old man would have better things to do with his very limited remaining time on Earth -- unless he were truly pathetic -- than to join a Christian church's private discussion forum and attack the people praising Jesus therein.

I wouldn't walk into your church and shout "Your religion is based on falsehoods." Your forum is on the Internet. I Googled "Why Atheism is Wrong," because I like discussing my beliefs. The discussion so far is disappointing and the infractions are baffling. Yes I am 72 years old and I look forward to spending my secular Christmas with my mother-in-law, my wife, my children, my grandchildren and my great grandchild.

Why don't you wander down the street to your Mommy's church, and tell the congregation there what a bunch of dummies you think they are, instead of sniping your hatred of God at strangers from behind your computer?

Is it because you're a little coward? That'd be my guess.

I don't go to church any more but I do occassionaly have conversations with people who do. I don't hate God because I do not believe he exists, but I sure would if I believed in the kind of God that is promoted on this web page.

Ah, more evidence that atheists do not have, or even respect, basic morality. We will add this to the file.

You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

Show us where either Rev. Rodimer's church or our church supports anything contrary to Scripture.

[James Hutchins]

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You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

Dave, you athiests think you have a handle on this sort of thing. But you are just guessing what is the right thing to do. When you bumble along guessing, you make mistakes. We follow the Supreme Guidebook(r), signed off by Our Creator(c).
Our Church nor does any True Christian(tm) support those things. We do however, Support God(tm) and His infinite wisdom as written in the KJV. So if you find fault with our actions, perhaps it is not us you are having a problem with. In which case, you need to discuss it with Him. Is that too much to ask during this Holy season?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Denying the existence of God is not unbelief but an exercise in self-deception. You may know things, but you cannot account for anything you know. Arguing against God's existence would be on par with arguing against the existence of air, breathing it all the while. You use the universal, immaterial, unchanging laws of logic, mathematics, science, and absolute morality in order to come to rational decisions, but you cannot account for them. These laws are not the only way God has revealed himself to you, but they are sufficient to show the irrationality of your thinking, and expose your guilt for denying Him.

There is a reason that you deny the existence of God and it has nothing to do with proof. I can show this to you. Do you think that you can continue to deny God because surely somewhere, sometime, a philosopher or scientist will come up with an explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws apart from God?' Did you ever try to come up with an alternate explanation on your own?

Hoping that an alternate explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws can someday be found apart from God, is a blind leap of faith, or wishful thinking. Isn't it interesting that this is exactly what professed unbelievers accuse Christians of?

Please examine the real reason why you are running from God. It is my prayer that God will open your eyes and change your heart so that you may be saved from your sin, embraced by His ferocious love, and that you will tithe robustly immediately using the Paypal button at the bottom of this page.

[Redeemed Papist]

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You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.

That's God's morality you're dissing there, friend.

Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.