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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
    Honorary True Christian™
    Forum Member
    • May 2008
    • 13996

    #16
    Re: The case for atheism

    Originally posted by DaveTheInfidel View Post
    You have a lot of nerve lecturing me on morality while your church supports racism, sexism, and trickle down economics.
    So you admit to being a liar. Thank you for being honest. About being a liar.


    My church doesn't support racism or sexism, and neither does Landover.

    We support God's Law as provided in the Bible.

    As for "voodoo economics", I've never preached on Ronald Reagan. I'm not an economist, I'm a man of God.
    Bible boring? Nonsense!
    Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
    You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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    • davidbrainfart
      Unsaved trash, cannukistani terrorist
      • Dec 2011
      • 128

      #17
      Re: The case for atheism

      Pastor Ezekiel,

      Three questions:

      1. Does all of your information about God's will and God's plan come from the Bible, including the validation of the Bible itself as an authority?

      2. If God is the answer to all the questions about the universe that I can't
      answer, what is the answer to God? Where did God come from?

      3. What is a chanukistani terrorist?

      Man must dare to live with unanswered questions.
      What the hell is that?

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      • Brother Enoch
        The Godliest Man in Godless Canuckistan
        True Christian™
        • Jun 2008
        • 4392

        #18
        Re: The case for atheism

        Originally posted by DaveTheInfidel View Post
        Pastor Ezekiel,

        Three questions:

        1. Does all of your information about God's will and God's plan come from the Bible, including the validation of the Bible itself as an authority?

        2. If God is the answer to all the questions about the universe that I can't
        answer, what is the answer to God? Where did God come from?

        3. What is a chanukistani terrorist?

        Man must dare to live with unanswered questions.
        What the hell is that?
        Yes, God, you, faith.

        All good now?

        (And btw, that was 4 questions.)

        Now a question for you: Are all Canadians as thick as you?

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        • tomasespensen
          Unsaved trash, satanic nazi
          • Dec 2011
          • 81

          #19
          Re: The case for atheism

          No Obviously you are not, Brother Enoch
          2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
          Revelation 8:5 ------- And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

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          • Redeemed Papist
            Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
            True Christian™
            • Jul 2011
            • 10409

            #20
            Re: The case for atheism

            Brother Enoch has repented of his Canadistani heritage many times and is largely considered an honorary American. You'd know that if you bothered to get to know people before launching personal attacks against them.

            So when are you going to accept Jesus?
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            Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

            John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

            Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
            The truth about volcanos
            Sex and debauchery in public schools
            Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
            God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
            Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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            • tomasespensen
              Unsaved trash, satanic nazi
              • Dec 2011
              • 81

              #21
              Re: The case for atheism

              Actualy this was NOT a attack on brother Enoch, this was a answer to hes question
              Now a question for you: Are all Canadians as thick as you
              Even I can see that DaveTheInfidel is a bit thick headed.

              So when are you going to accept Jesus?
              As i said before, i do accept Jesus, i Do accept God, however i choose a different path, IF i knew that God did what i see as bad, for a Good pupose in the future, IF God proved that theres also good in him and not just bad, IF God did anything so i as a person felt "Welcome" in Christianity, then i might turn, but as people inhere post all the time: What makes you think God wants to become your friend?"

              Well exactly Noting, all God wants us to, is OBEY and get only Crap in return.
              I mean why should i just have sex with 1 woman when i can have more? (even on same time if i am lucky), why can i not soil my body as pleased with Whiskey and Smoke? Allfun are taken out of the life by God and Jesus, and then you still want me to follow them?

              Beside If i get prove that Hell is bad, and not fun as i think, i can just ask God to forgive my sins, and claim thaty Jesus died for my sins, andi am home free
              2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
              Revelation 8:5 ------- And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

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              • Redeemed Papist
                Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
                True Christian™
                • Jul 2011
                • 10409

                #22
                Re: The case for atheism

                Originally posted by tomasespensen View Post
                Actualy this was NOT a attack on brother Enoch, this was a answer to hes question


                Even I can see that DaveTheInfidel is a bit thick headed.


                As i said before, i do accept Jesus, i Do accept God, however i choose a different path, IF i knew that God did what i see as bad, for a Good pupose in the future, IF God proved that theres also good in him and not just bad, IF God did anything so i as a person felt "Welcome" in Christianity, then i might turn, but as people inhere post all the time: What makes you think God wants to become your friend?"

                Well exactly Noting, all God wants us to, is OBEY and get only Crap in return.
                I mean why should i just have sex with 1 woman when i can have more? (even on same time if i am lucky), why can i not soil my body as pleased with Whiskey and Smoke? Allfun are taken out of the life by God and Jesus, and then you still want me to follow them?

                Beside If i get prove that Hell is bad, and not fun as i think, i can just ask God to forgive my sins, and claim thaty Jesus died for my sins, andi am home free
                How is demanding that God and Jesus meet your standards and turn a blind eye to your sins accepting Jesus?

                God's not this needy other person begging for your friendship and bending over backwards to change to please you. It's more the other way around.
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                Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                The truth about volcanos
                Sex and debauchery in public schools
                Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                • Brother Temperance
                  Senior Usher
                  True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                  A very nice young man
                  True Christian™
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 15621

                  #23
                  Re: The case for atheism

                  Originally posted by DaveTheInfidel View Post
                  Now that I have your attention, let me introduce myself. I am 72 years old. I grew up in the South, where I learned to hate Jim Crow, went to school in the North, and now live in the West.
                  You sound like a pretty hateful fellow. Did you know that God is Love?
                  I will proudly accept your damnation. If God thinks and feels anything like you, I would have to hold myself superior to both you and God. Imaginary damnation is preferable to imaginary virtue.
                  You sound pretty prideful. Did you know that pride is a sin?
                  Originally posted by DaveTheInfidel View Post
                  Pastor Ezekiel,

                  Three questions:

                  1. Does all of your information about God's will and God's plan come from the Bible, including the validation of the Bible itself as an authority?
                  No, it's verified by external reality. For instance, the Bible says that God created the Earth, and, lo and behold, the Earth exists, exactly as the Bible says it should. If any Christian opinion seems to clash with the secular "facts", you can be sure that's just Satan up to one of his tricks. Or God testing you. Can you find any single statement about God that you believe to be factually incorrect that cannot be explained by Satan playing tricks or else by God testing you?
                  2. If God is the answer to all the questions about the universe that I can't
                  answer, what is the answer to God? Where did God come from?
                  God isn't a question. He is eternal. Where did the Big Bang come from?
                  What is a chanukistani terrorist?
                  I'll defer to your expertise on that subject.
                  Now I've got a question for you: if God isn't real, who gave Christopher Hitchens cancer?

                  Originally posted by tomasespensen View Post
                  As i said before, i do accept Jesus, i Do accept God, however i choose a different path, IF i knew that God did what i see as bad, for a Good pupose in the future, IF God proved that theres also good in him and not just bad, IF God did anything so i as a person felt "Welcome" in Christianity, then i might turn, but as people inhere post all the time: What makes you think God wants to become your friend?"
                  Nothing. That's your job. Think of it like Clueless or Mean Girls. God is the ultimate popular kid. You can't just turn up as the dorky new kid at the High School that He created and expect Him to have any time for you, not even if you're Lindsey Lohan. You need to work on impressing Him, not the other way around. But be careful: not even the meanest "plastic" would think of sending a flood to kill the vast majority of the Earth's population, whereas God has a proven track record of that sort of thing, so you'll want to work extra-hard on making Him like you!
                  Well exactly Noting, all God wants us to, is OBEY and get only Crap in return.
                  Do you really consider the prospect of praising Him endlessly for all eternity to be "crap"?
                  I mean why should i just have sex with 1 woman when i can have more? (even on same time if i am lucky)
                  Let's be realistic here: that is not going to happen, friend.
                  why can i not soil my body as pleased with Whiskey and Smoke? Allfun are taken out of the life by God and Jesus, and then you still want me to follow them?
                  Do you have any idea what Hell is like? I'll give you a clue: it's not fun.
                  Beside If i get prove that Hell is bad, and not fun as i think, i can just ask God to forgive my sins, and claim thaty Jesus died for my sins, andi am home free
                  Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
                  O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                  God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                  • tomasespensen
                    Unsaved trash, satanic nazi
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 81

                    #24
                    Re: The case for atheism

                    Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post

                    Nothing. That's your job. Think of it like Clueless or Mean Girls. God is the ultimate popular kid. You can't just turn up as the dorky new kid at the High School that He created and expect Him to have any time for you, not even if you're Lindsey Lohan. You need to work on impressing Him, not the other way around. But be careful: not even the meanest "plastic" would think of sending a flood to kill the vast majority of the Earth's population, whereas God has a proven track record of that sort of thing, so you'll want to work extra-hard on making Him like you!
                    .
                    Well i started out by praising Him, i did follow His words as good i could.

                    But when he turned hes back at me, i did the same, i searched my heart to see if i ever did him bad, or i did anything to unplease him i dident, and yet my life have been crap.... since i turned my back on God, my life have not turned worse, nor better, however i dont have to spend eternaty with some prick that basickly dont care for me, even i cared for him.

                    Basickly when i die i either parrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrty for eternal or i burn for eternal, BUT the burn part wont be as much sorrow to be near a "best friend" that back stabbed my.
                    2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
                    Revelation 8:5 ------- And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

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                    • Redeemed Papist
                      Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
                      True Christian™
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10409

                      #25
                      Re: The case for atheism

                      So you're going to burn in Hell for all eternity to punish God for not meeting your earthly expectations?
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                      Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                      John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                      Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                      The truth about volcanos
                      Sex and debauchery in public schools
                      Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                      God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                      Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

                      Comment

                      • tomasespensen
                        Unsaved trash, satanic nazi
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 81

                        #26
                        Re: The case for atheism

                        Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                        So you're going to burn in Hell for all eternity to punish God for not meeting your earthly expectations?
                        I see it more as i prefer to take the chance that Hell is not burning, rather to be looking at God that have mocked me since my birth
                        2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
                        Revelation 8:5 ------- And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

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                        • Redeemed Papist
                          Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
                          True Christian™
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10409

                          #27
                          Re: The case for atheism

                          Originally posted by tomasespensen View Post
                          I see it more as i prefer to take the chance that Hell is not burning, rather to be looking at God that have mocked me since my birth
                          So where's your evidence that Hell isn't burning?

                          Matthew 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

                          Mark 9:45-48 45And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 46Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 47And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
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                          Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                          John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                          Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                          The truth about volcanos
                          Sex and debauchery in public schools
                          Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                          God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                          Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                          • tomasespensen
                            Unsaved trash, satanic nazi
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 81

                            #28
                            Re: The case for atheism

                            Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                            So where's your evidence that Hell isn't burning?

                            Matthew 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

                            Mark 9:45-48 45And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 46Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 47And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
                            I know that you are right, the Bible sayes so, however both will be "hell for me", i know that "Heaven" will feel like the worst, and i know that Hell Might be a tad hot, so i take my change that hell is not so bad compared to eternat mocking and laughing
                            2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
                            Revelation 8:5 ------- And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

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                            • Redeemed Papist
                              Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
                              True Christian™
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 10409

                              #29
                              Re: The case for atheism

                              Originally posted by tomasespensen View Post
                              I know that you are right, the Bible sayes so, however both will be "hell for me", i know that "Heaven" will feel like the worst, and i know that Hell Might be a tad hot, so i take my change that hell is not so bad compared to eternat mocking and laughing
                              Luke 16:19-31
                              19There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

                              Hell is not just a tad hot. The man in this tale thought like you did when he was alive.
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                              Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                              John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                              Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                              The truth about volcanos
                              Sex and debauchery in public schools
                              Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                              God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                              Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                              • tomasespensen
                                Unsaved trash, satanic nazi
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 81

                                #30
                                Re: The case for atheism

                                Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
                                Luke 16:19-31


                                Hell is not just a tad hot. The man in this tale thought like you did when he was alive.
                                So what you say, i need to have a miserable live before i can play the harpe? This means that all that have good lives wil burn in hell ?
                                2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
                                Revelation 8:5 ------- And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

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