[Cantankeros josh]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Just a question, say hypothetically my sister was raped, so instead of forcing my sister to marry him i track him down and skin him alive, would my sister still be considered a sinner, seeing how the rapist is in a unmarked shallow grave.

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

say hypothetically my sister was raped

If your sister associates with strange men dressed like a slut, then that's not a hypothetical scenario at all.

No True Christian™ woman has ever been raped. That's because a) they don't dress like sluts and b) God protects them.

So if your sister a) dresses like a slut and b) disavows God, then there's a pretty good chance that she'll be raped.

so instead of forcing my sister to marry him i track him down and skin him alive, would my sister still be considered a sinner, seeing how the rapist is in a unmarked shallow grave.

No, it's the rapist who would be forced to marry your sister. Instead of a quicky/freebie, he now has to take care of her and love her for the rest of his life.

If you killed the rapist, then you would be a murderer and go to prison. Then you yourself would be raped by big hairy men.

And if your sister continued her sinful lifestyle, there's a pretty good chance she'll be raped again. But you won't be there to take revenge, because you'll too busy being sodomized by rapists yourself.

Do you see how your hate leads to a vicious cycle of violence?

Instead of thinking "how can I take revenge on a rapist", why not think "how can I forgive a rapist and give him the chance to redeem himself".

[Cantankeros josh]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

If your sister associates with strange men dressed like a slut, then that's not a hypothetical scenario at all.

No True Christian™ woman has ever been raped. That's because a) they don't dress like sluts and b) God protects them.

So if your sister a) dresses like a slut and b) disavows God, then there's a pretty good chance that she'll be raped.


No, it's the rapist who would be forced to marry your sister. Instead of a quicky/freebie, he now has to take care of her and love her for the rest of his life.

If you killed the rapist, then you would be a murderer and go to prison. Then you yourself would be raped by big hairy men.

And if your sister continued her sinful lifestyle, there's a pretty good chance she'll be raped again. But you won't be there to take revenge, because you'll too busy being sodomized by rapists yourself.

Do you see how your hate leads to a vicious cycle of violence?

Instead of thinking "how can I take revenge on a rapist", why not think "how can I forgive a rapist and give him the chance to redeem himself".

Nice answer i see what you are saying, but my sister wear any sort of slutty clothing nor act like one, it's just that our town has some less that respectable people in it and you never know what they are going to do next, as for the murder i can't stand rapists they are one of the worst creatures to roam the earth, i don't view them as humans and as such i'll happily go to prison in order to cause suffering behind * imagination to one of them, mind you the sodomy is what has always stopped me from killing one so far.

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

mind you the sodomy is what has always stopped me from killing one so far.

So: if rape, or rather the prospect of it, stops you from being a murderer, we cannot say that rape is bad in all situations.

The real question here is: if someone who is raped is actually innocent, why did God not put a stop to it?

One can only logically conclude that God did not feel the person in question is innocent.

[Jacob the Angry Liar]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Nice answer i see what you are saying, but my sister wear any sort of slutty clothing nor act like one, it's just that our town has some less that respectable people in it and you never know what they are going to do next, as for the murder i can't stand rapists they are one of the worst creatures to roam the earth, i don't view them as humans and as such i'll happily go to prison in order to cause suffering behind * imagination to one of them, mind you the sodomy is what has always stopped me from killing one so far.

Well, I think most rapists ARE nigras, and God hates nigras.

And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. (Genesis 9:22-25)

Nigras may be some of the worst creatures to roam this earth, but they certainly are humans. Consider that they are descended from Ham, who was the son of Noah, a Godly True Christian™ man.

If you kill a rapist nigra, you will certainly go to hell. Firstly, remember the 10 Commandments.

Thou shalt not kill. (Exodus 20:13)

Also, killing is against the law of the Godly U.S. Government™.

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. (Romans 13:1)

so if you kill a rapist, you will surely go to jail, where you will doubtless be raped by crazed, lust-filled homer negro bucks. This goes against Biblical rule in several ways. Firstly, you can't have sex with men:

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

Secondly, you can't have sex with someone you're not married to:

Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. (1 Corinthians 6:18)

And finally, you can't have relations with a nigra.

And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan. (Genesis 28:1)



Enjoy going to Hell!


Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God (Corinthians 6:9-10)

[Cantankeros josh]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Well, I think most rapists ARE nigras, and God hates nigras.

And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. (Genesis 9:22-25)

Nigras may be some of the worst creatures to roam this earth, but they certainly are humans. Consider that they are descended from Ham, who was the son of Noah, a Godly True Christian™ man.

If you kill a rapist nigra, you will certainly go to hell. Firstly, remember the 10 Commandments.

Thou shalt not kill. (Exodus 20:13)

Also, killing is against the law of the Godly U.S. Government™.

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. (Romans 13:1)

so if you kill a rapist, you will surely go to jail, where you will doubtless be raped by crazed, lust-filled homer negro bucks. This goes against Biblical rule in several ways. Firstly, you can't have sex with men:

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

Secondly, you can't have sex with someone you're not married to:

Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. (1 Corinthians 6:18)

And finally, you can't have relations with a nigra.

And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan. (Genesis 28:1)



Enjoy going to Hell!


Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God (Corinthians 6:9-10)

But how is me killing a rapist a bad thing, through the ages many have killed in the name of god, i see this in a way in the name of god, getting rid of one of the devils minoins so as to speak, that and there is no guarantee that i will be raped in prison, who's to say people just don't try after seeing their friend get stabbed, fear can do crazy things to people.

Even then can't i repent the sin i just commitied pray to god to forgive me for what i just did, if a rapist can repent surely i can.

[Victim of religious]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

You make it sound like this girl is a 'rape-victim'. Let's be clear here, the ONLY victim of rape is the man. He is the one who let this little temptress tease him into committing sin, and he is the one the courts victimize and throw into prison, when this girl was probably dressed as a whore and just asking to be raped. If girls didn't dress like prostitutes and sluts, poor men like this wouldnt fall into their trap. It's up to the girl to do the right thing, she obviously led this man on, and she should have to deal with the consequences. You play, you pay!

So, a girl, walking down the street. And let me make this clear, there are girls raped all the time, that are NOT dressed as whores!! She's walking down the street, guy comes and attacks her. She's screaming and shouting for help, kicking and fighting back and it's her fault?

Point out the exact phase in the bible that's says this? And the exact phase that says she has to marry the guy? Please, I do not know the bible that well, but I bet that it does NOT in any way mean that it's ok to rape ANYONE!!

[Victim of religious]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

How about a child? If man rapes a 4 or 11 yo child? Did she deserve that?

[Levi Jones]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

So, a girl, walking down the street. And let me make this clear, there are girls raped all the time, that are NOT dressed as whores!!

That never happens.

She's walking down the street, guy comes and attacks her. She's screaming and shouting for help, kicking and fighting back and it's her fault?

Read Deuteronomy 22. That chapter also deals with if the girl is not a virgin on her honeymoon.

15Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:
16And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;
17And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
18And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;
19And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
20But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

Point out the exact phase in the bible that's says this? And the exact phase that says she has to marry the guy? Please, I do not know the bible that well, but I bet that it does NOT in any way mean that it's ok to rape ANYONE!!

Deuteronomy 22
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.



Here the Bible says the circumstances under which it is okay to rape. I'm not making this up. If you have a problem with it, take it up with God not me. What you have to do is make sure she has had her unclean time and is not pregnant with another man's seed.



Then it is time to impregnate her.

Deuteronomy 21 10When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
14And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.

It's a very just rule isn't it?

[Victim of religious]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I'm sorry, I have to post few times now, since this got to my attention..

You're talking about hate? Hatefull life leads hell and so on.. Also I've been told a million times how god loves everyone, god IS love.

You have a whole section in this forum telling "god hates.." where you can find most of the countries in the world, all kinds of people.. How is that good?

There is no doubt in my mind, that if you people really and truly believe all this stuff, you're in desperate need of help and finding you're sence of reality. I'm so sorry for every poor soul that can not use their own sence of reason and right and wrong. There's no moral in YOUR life, since you can not justify your means your self. If god says kill and rape, you do it. That's being stupid, not religious.

Religions and laws are made to proteck and guide to be good and right to one and other, and you're not doing that. I do wosh that this forum is existing just to tease people and wind them up. But if there's one person who does believe in things like this, I hope you die.

[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

So, a girl, walking down the street. And let me make this clear, there are girls raped all the time, that are NOT dressed as whores!! She's walking down the street, guy comes and attacks her. She's screaming and shouting for help, kicking and fighting back and it's her fault?

Point out the exact phase in the bible that's says this? And the exact phase that says she has to marry the guy? Please, I do not know the bible that well, but I bet that it does NOT in any way mean that it's ok to rape ANYONE!!

rape...i will share this copy with you GOD=life

I would like to present several results of my extensive study on the topic of rape that I will present at a conference. I hope this helps all the Christian fathers to make sure their daughters are safe.

I will give you the summary first, then cite secular sources and then explain why our daughters have almost 0% chance of being raped. Also note that to avoid any semblance of bias, I will cite only non-Christian and secular sources.

SUMMARY

Factors that increase the chance of being raped:

1. Dressing provocatively and/or sending mixed signals
2. Not being under the watch of a father or husband
3. Associating with people without morals (atheists, etc)
4. Associating with homersexuals and abortionists
5. Going to college
6. Not praying to God for protection
7. Using any kind of contraceptive
8. Consuming alcoholic beverages and/or taking drugs
9. Being out on the street at 3am
10. Being exposed to pro-promiscuity liberal media

Now by themselves, each factor my only increase the chance slightly, but almost all "victims" have a lifestyle that consists of a combination of these factors.

Various Reasons

1. About 9% of all women have frequent fantasies of being raped. They want it to happen to them.
2. When a woman commits adultery, she will say that she was "raped" when caught
3. When a woman is ashamed of her one-night stand, it will suddenly be a "rape"
4. When a foolish 18-year-old man has sex with his consenting 17-year-old girlfriend, secular law calls it statutory rape, even though no actual rape took place
5. The majority of rapes are not reported (for obvious reasons)
6. The woman was somehow offended and wanted to take revenge at the man, even though he was innocent

Consequences

1. Thousands of men are known to be freed based on DNA evidence for a crime the did not commit. In the meantime, they were raped in prison, even though their only fault was that they could not afford a hot-shot lawyer
2. Many men have lost their jobs, families, freedoms or even lives based on rape allegations that later turned out to be false
3. Even if a man wishes to take responsibility (e.g. through marriage), secular law blocks him from doing so

REFERENCES
This articlestates the following: "A recent analysis of 20 studies over the last 30 years indicates that between 31% and 57% of women have rape fantasies, and these fantasies are frequent or preferred in 9% to 17% of women. Considering that many people are ashamed to report rape fantasies, these stats are most likely lowball figures."

Taking the lower bound of 9%, we arrive at approximately 10 million women in the USA alone who are aroused by the idea of being raped. It is only logic that this translates into slutty lifestyle choices.

Another article states the following:

• 84% of women knew their attacker -- so they had already associated with them
• 57% happened on a date -- another risky undertaking
• 1 in 12 male students on colleges were (attempted) rapists

And another makes the following statements:

• 20% to 25% of college women are raped during their college career
• Alcohol is involved in 75% of attacks

WHY OUR DAUGHTERS ARE SAFE

When consulting a variety of sources, several factors keep returning. They all involve a combination of lifestyle choices that our own daughters do not have:

• They do not go to college but are homeschooled
• They are under the protection of their father or husband
• They do not use any drugs or alcohol
• They do not wear slutty clothing
• They read the KJV 1611 Bible as soon as they can read (coincidentally, this is also why they can out-spell any atheist)
• And above all: they are protected by God

What the bible says about rape

1. Doing your best to prevent a crime from happening does not equal condoning that crime
2. The Bible does not condone rape. Deuteronomy clearly mentions the death penalty for rape in various circumstances -- sometimes only for the rapist and not for the woman
3. The Bible tells us to follow secular law (i.e. unlike Catholics who protect pedophiles, we would report rapists)
4. The study is about minimizing the chance to be raped. Based on secular statistics, I have identified some of the most common factors.
5. We want our True Christian daughters to be as safe as possible -- if you want your atheist/non-Christian daughters to be safe too, you would be wise to follow this study
6. Did you know that according to secular statistics, there is a 20-25% chance that your daughter will be raped or sexually assaulted if she goes to college?
7. According to secular studies, 1 in 12 men at college qualify for the legal definition of rapist
8. What is or isn't moral is defined by God through the Bible

What the bible says about marriage to a rapist
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (King James Version)


28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days

[Levi Jones]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

How about a child? If man rapes a 4 or 11 yo child? Did she deserve that?

The Bible is unclear on the age, but it is clear on that the girl cannot be the man's daughter, step daughter or daughter-in-law.

Such a man would deserve death, according to the scriptures.

[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I'm sorry, I have to post few times now, since this got to my attention..

You're talking about hate? Hatefull life leads hell and so on.. Also I've been told a million times how god loves everyone, god IS love.

You have a whole section in this forum telling "god hates.." where you can find most of the countries in the world, all kinds of people.. How is that good?

There is no doubt in my mind, that if you people really and truly believe all this stuff, you're in desperate need of help and finding you're sence of reality. I'm so sorry for every poor soul that can not use their own sence of reason and right and wrong. There's no moral in YOUR life, since you can not justify your means your self. If god says kill and rape, you do it. That's being stupid, not religious.

Religions and laws are made to proteck and guide to be good and right to one and other, and you're not doing that. I do wosh that this forum is existing just to tease people and wind them up. But if there's one person who does believe in things like this, I hope you die.

You seem angry/
We do not hate, God does.If you hate us that is ok too the Bible tells us-
Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

If only you would read the entire Bible and understand it as we do it would truly open your eyes to the ways of Christ.

[Levi Jones]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I'm sorry, I have to post few times now, since this got to my attention..

You're talking about hate? Hatefull life leads hell and so on.. Also I've been told a million times how god loves everyone, god IS love.

That's not really how always Jesus was. He was a harsh task master as well. I just wish you would read the Bible, but I'm going to point out certain verses for you to get started.

Sorry so NIV.

Matthew 15
15Peter said, "Explain the parable to us." 16"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. 17"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body?
21Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession."
23Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
25The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.
26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
27"Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."
28Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

You have a whole section in this forum telling "god hates.." where you can find most of the countries in the world, all kinds of people.. How is that good?

There are many things God hates.

Proverbs 6
16 There are six things the LORD hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.

There is no doubt in my mind, that if you people really and truly believe all this stuff, you're in desperate need of help and finding you're sence of reality. I'm so sorry for every poor soul that can not use their own sence of reason and right and wrong. There's no moral in YOUR life, since you can not justify your means your self. If god says kill and rape, you do it. That's being stupid, not religious.

Who are you to question the Word of God?

Religions and laws are made to proteck and guide to be good and right to one and other, and you're not doing that.

Post scripture or it didn't happen.

I hope you die.

How kind, tolerant and Christ-like of you.

[Victim of religious]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

"who are you to question god?"

I am a person. I believe you're blind and stupid if you don't question things. I could never, ever force my daughter to marry a rapist, who has hurt my child the most dirtiest way. EVER.
I actually don't believe in god, though I am very interested in religions and people who do believe. I would so very much like to understand, why would anyone blessed with ability to think as man do, throw them selves in the hands of some book. And I KNOW there was, or is not a living person who has seen god, or can any way prove that god exists. And do not say bible proves it, cause that is just idiotic.

I am not christ-like, and if it means being like you people, I would jump off a cliff. If I could get to you, I would do anything in my power to open the eyes of the women, and take them away.

At this point, -if you let me come back- I'd like to know what you people will tell the children, when they're older? How mommy and daddy met? Were they in love like people in tales? "no, actually daddy just decided that he has a right to rape mommy, and then they got married since otherwise mommy would burn in hell!" Isn't it lovely, your kids will be so happy, and sane...