[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Men are fallible, and thus the Bible is fallible.

How about we all go to an atheist forum uninvited and tell them that they are wrong. Wouldn't that be rude? Like how you are rude?

You outsiders think we are all women haters and whatever. I myself even volunteer time at a secular forum that is aimed at female rape victims. Read that again: not male victims, female.

I offer them my guidance and advice. Or I should say: I point them towards God's guidance (the Bible), which is the basis of my advice. But sometimes you need to explain things for people who can't (yet) be bothered to pick up the good book.

[synthetic.syndrome]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

im going to agree with old hag crotch. you ppl are complete idiots. i was raped, and the jerk is sitting in prison. if i had to marry him, i'd walk down the aisle, cut his *deleted* off and shove them down his throat, then watch and gloat in the fact i get to see him suffer and choke on his own little *deleted* then i would *deleted*, and show him what its like. cause obvioulsy i find HIM attractive

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Why would you rejoice in the suffering in another human being? That man should've been your husband. I have a feeling God's plan for your life is that to be an old, lonely spinster with that attitude.

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

you ppl are complete idiots.

So you are angry, bitter and hateful now and spend your life bashing Christians?

From our perspective, the circumstances in which rapes almost always occur do not apply to our daughters. I have seen the documentary Girls Gone Wild about how women behave when they go to (secular) college. Is it a surprise that with such a lifestyle, "bad" things happens more often?

You might want to look up Stockholm Syndrome. It is perfectly possible for a person to grow to love someone they initially detest. And marriage is for a long time during which to say "sorry" through love, children and commitment.

[tootsy]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The old "An eye for an eye"

Possibly your daughters will be raped by a homeless African Illeagal immigrant, enjoy your new son in law...

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The old "An eye for an eye"

Possibly your daughters will be raped by a homeless African Illeagal immigrant, enjoy your new son in law...

"Eye for an eye" has no basis in this whatsoever. Rape is a sin. Got it? No one here advocates rape. God says it is a sin. But, it's also a sin to not to follow what God has commanded a rapist and a woman to do after the rape is over.

While it is possible theoretically, because negroes are oversexed beasts looking to rape as many white women as possible, it's not possible practically because no one in our church would allow a woman to associate with a negro.

So that's not going to happen, sorry.

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

it's not possible practically because no one in our church would allow a woman to associate with a negro.

Amen, Reverend!

People keep coming up with all sorts of thought experiments to find some "angle" where the Bible could somehow be twisted to be evil or self-contradictory... but they forget that they create a priori conditions which do not apply to us.

One can say "what if a negro rapes your daughter?" One can also ask: "why do you live among negroes?"

[michele]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

negroes are oversexed beasts looking to rape as many white women as possible, it's not possible practically because no one in our church would allow a woman to associate with a negro.

So that's not going to happen, sorry.

and your not racist?

women are not allowed to asscoiate with afro americans and you think all afro americans are looking to rape as many people as possible?

that my "friend" is racism

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

that my "friend" is racism

Why don't you use anti-Christian search engine Google to give us some facts? Now you are just sharing your opinion and wishful thinking and pretending that is fact.

Please tell us what the rape statistics are. When I search for "negro rape statistics", I immediately learn things like:

"When whites do violence -- rape, murder, assault -- how often do they choose black victims? Shouldn't a nation of bigots target blacks most of the time? At least half of the time? Of course, it does not. When whites commit violence, they to it to blacks 2.4 percent of the time. Blacks, on the other hand, choose white victims more than half the time"

Please tell us again how we are the racists here?

[michele]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

the comments you have made are racist because you are generalising it to the entire afro american community.

you think obama is looking to rape as many white women as possible?
or martin luther king?
or Ali?

no they didnt

[James Hutchins]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

and your not racist?

women are not allowed to asscoiate with afro americans and you think all afro americans are looking to rape as many people as possible?

that my "friend" is racism

Michele, look at a beautiful alabaster white woman. Skin like pearls. Now look at a nigra, looks like chocolate. Mix the two and you get mud. Not very nice now, is it?

[michele]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

so you dont like black people then? you dont have to hide your true feelings

if a man and a woman love each other. be they black and white or whatever then they love each other and nothing should stop them.

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

so you dont like black people then?

Would you like salt on your ice cream? If not, why not? Don't you like salt or ice cream? Or maybe you like them both, but separate.

I know you are not bound by the Bible, but here is some Scripture:

Acts 17:26And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

[James Hutchins]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I do not hate nigras. I have more of them working and living on my farm than Godly Christian ones. I am an extremely generous man.

The point is, the races should not mix, it dilutes them. One day, there could not no longer be nigras. Then what will we do? This is our heritage.

Put it this way. You can drink fresh Godly water. It is good for you. You cannot drink salt water, it is bad for you. You need to keep the two separate. Salt water is great for some fishes and sailing on. Fresh Godly water is great for consumption. If you blend the two together, you get dilute salt water, the impure salt has contaminated the fresh pure Godly water. Then everyone dies. Is that what you want?

[Psalm 51:10]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Uhm, what? First of all, where did the concept of FAULT come into this?

The concept of fault was introduced by Brother Percy, who started this thread.

If girls didn't dress like prostitutes and sluts, poor men like this wouldnt fall into their trap.

What I DO see is that anyone who lusts has sinned. OK..I got that. How does that conflict with Deut 22? The whore frolics around town in trampy clothes. (Sin) The man lusts. (Sin)...But what about this: The Bible ALSO says not to go around dressed like a harlot. Why don't we use your logic of "he who sinned first in a series of sins is the only one who should be punished" on this scenario? She sinned first by disobeying 1 Timothy 2:9-10.

You and many others are arguing under the assumption that the girl in question was scantily clad at the time the man forced himself upon her. Did you see her at the time? Do you know what she was wearing? Is it not possible that she was modestly clad, and the man simply has a lustful heart and vivid imagination? If he is capable of such actions he is clearly not a God-fearing man.

AH HA! I have caught your little double standard! You say "It is the MAN'S fault for failing to control his lust. The Bible says to control your lust. He didn't. Ergo, he sinned and caused the incident. He is responsible."

How is a literal reading of Scripture a double standard?

Are you saying that David or Absalom are God? Are you saying that we should all do whatever they did instead of what God tells us to do? I don't get your point here.

I am saying that God did not punish either of them for their actions. If Amnon were not guilty of any sin, why would God not punish the murder of an innocent man?

There is a Biblical difference between a child and a woman. Pedophiles that don't seem to get the difference. Do you?

Of course I do. I was wondering if anyone else here did as well. Whether or not the female has reached puberty, according to your standards she is now damaged goods and unfit for marriage. If she is raped at the age of 8, does she grow out of this damaged state? Or must she still marry the man who damaged her when she comes of age? I am simply curious, as Scripture does not provide an answer.

You mean if we DON'T know that it is ADULTERY and not something else? OK. i will play along.

Are rape and adultery mutually exclusive? Rape is defined as "the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse" (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape). I am sure that a married man can compel a woman who is not his wife to have sexual intercourse with him. It just happens to be adultery and rape.