[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

I'm pretty sure Marijuana is Spanish for "Mary Jane".

Now wait. I thought Maria meant the same as Mary, but in Mexican.

Don't they even know how to spell their OWN words? Ever try to get a Mexican to spell anything? They say all the letters wrong!

'E' sounds like 'A', 'I' sounds like 'E', it's ridiculous!

It's no wonder now that I think about it, since they're all high on the marihuana all the time.

[no defense]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

So just because a scientists says it is true, you believe it? Why do you not use your own God given brain instead? The part you didn't destroy yet. Most scientists make up proof to steal our money with government grants. Don't believe me? Perhaps you will believe the Times: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6999975.ece

That depends upon the method used; I would advise you to look at Poppers definition of science. If the method used fits within Poppers definition of Science, then I would feel fairly safe in saying that 'yes' I would believe it to be 'highly confirmed'. Remember we must attempt to falsify, rather than find our theory/method correct. You have to remember that science is not 'truth' it is 'highly confirmed'.

Even science believers say marihuana is 50 to 70% more carcinogenic than tobacco¹. The chance of death by heart attack increases about six fold for people who use marihuana².
Tobacco causes approximately 440,000 deaths a year.
About 30% of the people in the US smoke, this is similar to lifetime use of marihuana, so marihuana is responsible for 750,000 to 2,500,000 deaths a year. Remember it took 400 years after tobacco was introduced before science finally accepted that it is a drug and it is seriously harmful. Just because scientists haven't yet admitted the dangers of marihuana doesn't mean they are nonexistent, it is simply hippies and drug cartels lobbying to keep the dangers under wraps.

Here I bring in what I said earlier, and what Cranky Old Man just said.

So just because a scientists says it is true, you believe it?

The fact that our liberal government made a mess out of their laws does not change the fact drugs are very bad for people.

I absolutely agree, this is where my personal opinion comes in; Why go after the lethargic pot smoker? Why not the crack dealers or the politicians themselves that make these ridiculous laws? Why go after the user? Why not go after the dealers?

And I don't know if you are aware of this but the strength of today's marijuana is as much as ten times greater than the marijuana used in the early 1970s. Even if, at some point in time, it didn't do all that much damage. It most certainly does so now.

I concur with you here again, but once again I ask the question; why persecute the child? Why not the person who introduced it to the child, the dealers, the manufactures - the people who made today's marijuana ten times stronger?

Defense, it is obvious you are a druggie. You know when incidents occur, the authorities do not always test for drugs nor is being under the influence of them readily apparent as some people are just stupid. Therefore, may deaths are attributed to other things when in fact drugs do play a role. You attempt to defer the gentle reader away from reality by mentioning the medical examiner. They examine the corpse, not the attacker. There is a difference, you know. The attacker gets to walk away.

And referring to Wiki for a definition and spelling? That is like asking Dr. Kevorkian to heal you.

Pretty much does sum it up.

No, it's not obvious that I'm a 'druggie' - just because I don't agree with your opinion and beliefs you cast me out as a 'druggie'? Who are you to make such judgment - nobody is apart from God.
I did not mention the medical examiner, the source I quoted did - that would be plagiarism if I had.
In addition, can you please look at the findings again, marijuana is mentioned however in conjunction with our drugs. What I'm trying to point out, is that marijuana should not be our top priority, there are far more 'legal' drugs that are causing more harm than marijuana - 'legal' drugs that we believe are 'ok' because they are 'legal' - because conventional law says so. What if marijuana became legal and alcohol was to become illegal; Would the Landovians continue to have such a hard stance on marijuana 100 years latter and would their position on alcohol change? (please answere my question with a decent explanation was to why or why not, thank you)

In addition, I am aware that sourcing Wiki may not be extremely credible, although had this of been a university paper I may of cared a little more than I do. That isn't to be sarcastic, we just never agreed on any rules in our conversation regarding such sourcing - and now you pull such wild card out on me because it does not agree with your opinnion/belief. You are being unfair with me, I was not unfair with you James.

In conclusion my point so far has been that there are far worse drugs that are legal, we should have our prioritys in check, we should be worrying about the harmful legal drugs, we should be worrying about the lethal drugs such as speed, cocaine and heroin... not silly old and washed out marijuana for damn sakes!

[A Follower]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Even science believers say marihuana is 50 to 70% more carcinogenic than tobacco¹. The chance of death by heart attack increases about six fold for people who use marihuana².
Tobacco causes approximately 440,000 deaths a year.
About 30% of the people in the US smoke, this is similar to lifetime use of marihuana, so marihuana is responsible for 750,000 to 2,500,000 deaths a year. Remember it took 400 years after tobacco was introduced before science finally accepted that it is a drug and it is seriously harmful. Just because scientists haven't yet admitted the dangers of marihuana doesn't mean they are nonexistent, it is simply hippies and drug cartels lobbying to keep the dangers under wraps.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

you can start off by learning how to spell MARIJUANA

Sure thing, Mr. Bigot
M-a-r-i-h-u-n-a-n-a

Does that help you?

[Nobar King]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Now that we have the English spelling of 'Marijuana' ironed out

I'm pretty sure Marijuana is Spanish for "Mary Jane".

[AntiBigot]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

you can start off by learning how to spell MARIJUANA

[James Hutchins]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Defense, it is obvious you are a druggie. You know when incidents occur, the authorities do not always test for drugs nor is being under the influence of them readily apparent as some people are just stupid. Therefore, may deaths are attributed to other things when in fact drugs do play a role. You attempt to defer the gentle reader away from reality by mentioning the medical examiner. They examine the corpse, not the attacker. There is a difference, you know. The attacker gets to walk away.

And referring to Wiki for a definition and spelling? That is like asking Dr. Kevorkian to heal you.

I feel now that my staistics speak for themself.

Pretty much does sum it up.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

An exhaustive search of the literature finds no credible reports of deaths induced by marijuana

So just because a scientists says it is true, you believe it? Why do you not use your own God given brain instead? The part you didn't destroy yet. Most scientists make up proof to steal our money with government grants. Don't believe me? Perhaps you will believe the Times: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6999975.ece

while the legality of marijuana is difficult to define

The fact that our liberal government made a mess out of their laws does not change the fact drugs are very bad for people.

And I don't know if you are aware of this but the strength of today's marijuana is as much as ten times greater than the marijuana used in the early 1970s. Even if, at some point in time, it didn't do all that much damage. It most certainly does so now.

[agnet44]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Cool badge defense!

[no defense]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Exactly! Why would there be a "J" in it? It's marihuana, not mari-joo-ana...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_(etymology)

Now that we have the English spelling of 'Marijuana' ironed out, allow us to continue on topic and not slip from our discussion like a 'pot-head' or 'drunkard', for we know that it is Satan who conspires to derail our conversation and lead us towards evil.

Now miss michele, you know perfectly well, the number of drug related deaths is much higher than the 2 a year you quote.

I absoloutely agree with James here, the number of 'drug' related deaths a year is freightening - including tobbacco, alchol and any other ampetamine use. However, surely if we are to generalise the account of these drug realted deaths, we would not be doing justice to the eyes that God gave us? Therefore is it not wrong for us to generalise even the deaths of the unsaved drug user? Is it facts we seek or opinnion and belief? Surely facts if we are to have any grounding in our society or we will be nothing more than a 'drunkard' or 'pot-head' talking nonsene.

Although, even one a year is too many. How many drunk driving crashes was the driver also stoned? How many people will admit to being on drugs? None, who wants to add legal charges? How many afgani tali-ban nutcases are stoned out of their gourds? You know your statistic make you look very foolish.

I am not aware of the statistics for drunk driving cases involving other illicit substances James. Although here are the statistics for drunk driving in the US (as you can see the number of deaths is overwhelming);

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

Here are the stiatsics for cannabis related deaths in the US (dot point 10);

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30#marijuana

"An exhaustive search of the literature finds no credible reports of deaths induced by marijuana. The US Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) records instances of drug mentions in medical examiners' reports, and though marijuana is mentioned, it is usually in combination with alcohol or other drugs. Marijuana alone has not been shown to cause an overdose death."

However, one must look at the facts: alcohol is a legal drug in many countries around the world, while the legality of marijuana is difficult to define, even in the state of California where Federal law overides State law. Therefore, if our politicians, presidents and law enforcement officers are doing their jobs of keeping the streets clean of 'marijuana' then we should be able to speak with certantity that the majority of drink driving cases are exactly that, drink driving cases. I feel now that my staistics speak for themself.

[Jacob the Angry Liar]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Now michele, I noticed you are using the "Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary". That is a little child's dictionary. Everyone knows it is spelled 'Marihuana"

Exactly! Why would there be a "J" in it? It's marihuana, not mari-joo-ana...

[James Hutchins]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Now michele, I noticed you are using the "Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary". That is a little child's dictionary. Everyone knows it is spelled 'Marihuana"

[michele]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Oh yeah? I think the Interstate Narcotic Association would know better than you.

is that from the 60's or something??

marijuana noun


a usually illegal drug made from the dried leaves and flowers of the hemp plant, which produces a feeling of pleasant relaxation if smoked or eaten









(Definition of marijuana noun from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

[Jacob the Angry Liar]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

(its spelt marijuana. not marihuana.)

Oh yeah? I think the Interstate Narcotic Association would know better than you.

[GOD=life]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

considering all i see on this site is hatred abuse and people twisting ithers words i think it you all to be a bit on the slow side.

So in the same sentence where you're accusing well-meaning Christians of being hateful, you insult our intelligence? You don't find that hateful? Not even a bit? Maybe you see everything as hateful because YOU are hateful?

does no one realise the Bible was written nearly 2000 years ago and that things have changed since then?

Are you saying God changed? God does not change.

Are you saying that if you dropped an apple 2000 years ago, it would fall faster or slower than now? No, of course not. Again: God does no change.

Same rules, different time period.