[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

You must be dumb to actually say, " I have no idea why you want to get stoned", especially after I just told you that I don't smoke. That doesn't make sense at all.

That you don't actually smoke does not mean you do not want to get stoned. Drugs seem to have damaged your brain.

I'm wasting my time here with blinded corrupt Christians. I admit that is a real insulting thing to say, but I've only been exposed to them since I've been a member on this site.

Like us you can choose to open your eyes to Jesus Christ. Just read the KJV 1611 Holy Bible and start praying! Jesus loves even you.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

You must be dumb to actually say, " I have no idea why you want to get stoned", especially after I just told you that I don't smoke. That doesn't make sense at all.

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Yes I never do because no one here is allowing me to. No one is willing to agree with common sense and move on!

There is none to someone like you because you look at everything through a little tunnel.

Like I have said in previous threads...
I'm wasting my time here with blinded corrupt Christians.
I admit that is a real insulting thing to say, but I've only been exposed to them since I've been a member on this site.


Ban me please! Get rid of me! It would be my pleasure and yours!

We follow the Holy Word of God. If you have an issue with that, then take it up with Jesus.

All you have to do is click on that tiny red "x" in the upper right hand corner of your screen, and walk away from your computer.

Enjoy hell, boy. I know that Jesus and I are going to enjoy watching you burn.

[slipdumb92]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

I have no idea why you want to get stoned. I don't really care either.

Yet you never do. You just whine and whine and whine.

Because there is none.

You must be dumb to actually say, " I have no idea why you want to get stoned", especially after I just told you that I don't smoke. That doesn't make sense at all.

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Yes I never do because no one here is allowing me to. No one is willing to agree with common sense and move on!

There is none to someone like you because you look at everything through a little tunnel.

Like I have said in previous threads...
I'm wasting my time here with blinded corrupt Christians.
I admit that is a real insulting thing to say, but I've only been exposed to them since I've been a member on this site.


Ban me please! Get rid of me! It would be my pleasure and yours!

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

I don't smoke or use any drugs so why would I be looking for a reason to get stoned?

I have no idea why you want to get stoned. I don't really care either.

I would LOVE to spend more time talking about Jesus

Yet you never do. You just whine and whine and whine.

Why can't you see there is complete reason in what I say?

Because there is none.

[slipdumb92]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

There's REAL MEDICINES that help with that. This medical marijuana thing that's going on lately is nothing more than liebrals trying to get their hippie agenda through the back door.


I don't take drugs, I pray. Unfortunately some people do not have enough faith for that to work it seems.


Uhh..... If I'm having surgery, the doctor better be giving me something a little stronger than morphine. Or have you never heard of anaesthesia?

Anyway, just because GOD put a plant on the earth it doesn't mean we're supposed to eat it. Did he just create the incredibly toxic dieffenbachia just so it would look nice in my living room?

Just look at the list of common toxic plants Explain magic mushrooms, they grow wild around where I live. Animals die from them. What medical reason do they have.

You just want a reason to get stoned, and as I said the Bible is definitely against intoxication.

Again, you guys try to attack me away from my argument. I don't smoke or use any drugs so why would I be looking for a reason to get stoned?

- God's purpose for an "evil" plant doesn't always have to be medical value.. it's purpose may lie on another level ( whatever it is).
But with a plant like marijuana that ACTUALLY does have it, its reasonable to use it ..The RIGHT WAY--- not to be used, to be stoned.

Also, Anesthesia derives from Herbal plants-- it is just another example you have provided for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anesthesia#Herbal_derivatives

I would LOVE to spend more time talking about Jesus, but everyone keeps bashing me and not letting this dicussion end. Why can't you see there is complete reason in what I say?

I think God's nature in this world is so extremely wonderful! The creation of life and how every single organism and cell works together to create a huge system. How the human body is composed of so many factors that work perfectly together. Our intellectual abilities will never ever comprehend the wonders of out God!

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Stop twisting what I say!
I actually never said we should all use pot. I said it has medical value meaning that it should be used to fight whatever sickness it is able to fight.
For example- It helps Glaucoma- if you don't have it you don't need it.

There's REAL MEDICINES that help with that. This medical marijuana thing that's going on lately is nothing more than liebrals trying to get their hippie agenda through the back door.

Same thing with any drug! You wouldn't take an anti-biotic if you don't need it!

I don't take drugs, I pray. Unfortunately some people do not have enough faith for that to work it seems.

Look at Opium! An extremely addictive illegal drug-- that is used by doctors in the form of morphine to perform surgeries, and kill pain in suffering patients.
Are you going to disown opium now? Everything God has made has a purpose!

Uhh..... If I'm having surgery, the doctor better be giving me something a little stronger than morphine. Or have you never heard of anaesthesia?

Anyway, just because GOD put a plant on the earth it doesn't mean we're supposed to eat it. Did he just create the incredibly toxic dieffenbachia just so it would look nice in my living room?

Just look at the list of common toxic plants Explain magic mushrooms, they grow wild around where I live. Animals die from them. What medical reason do they have.

You just want a reason to get stoned, and as I said the Bible is definitely against intoxication.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Stop twisting what I say!

It is not our fault that you are twisted!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Stop twisting what I say!
I actually never said we should all use pot. I said it has medical value meaning that it should be used to fight whatever sickness it is able to fight.
For example- It helps Glaucoma- if you don't have it you don't need it.

Same thing with any drug! You wouldn't take an anti-biotic if you don't need it!

Look at Opium! An extremely addictive illegal drug-- that is used by doctors in the form of morphine to perform surgeries, and kill pain in suffering patients.
Are you going to disown opium now? Everything God has made has a purpose!


And great quotes you placed here btw

So just to be clear, the fact that you have made all these posts arguing in favor of marijuana and none in favor of Jesus shouldn't be an indicator of your personal priorities, huh?

Why haven't you made a thread of your own in the "introductions" section yet? You claim to be Saved(r), but we still don't know anything about you or the church your father takes you to.

[slipdumb92]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

You show up here and say we should all smoke pot because it's good for us.

What makes you different than the guy pushing pot on the street corner?

As for the LORD GOD making things that are evil...

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
2 Kings 6:33 And while he yet talked with them, behold, the messenger came down unto him: and he said, Behold, this evil is of the LORD;
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

He even put the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil right in the middle of paradise! God has always surrounded us with plants that are not good for us.

Can I find Marijuana directly in the bible? No, but I can find lots against intoxication, and if you don't think you're intoxicated when you're stoned you're a deluded fool.

Stop twisting what I say!
I actually never said we should all use pot. I said it has medical value meaning that it should be used to fight whatever sickness it is able to fight.
For example- It helps Glaucoma- if you don't have it you don't need it.

Same thing with any drug! You wouldn't take an anti-biotic if you don't need it!

Look at Opium! An extremely addictive illegal drug-- that is used by doctors in the form of morphine to perform surgeries, and kill pain in suffering patients.
Are you going to disown opium now? Everything God has made has a purpose!


And great quotes you placed here btw

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Oh Wow, this is heavy man.

Thought I might say a little something and see what happens. I don't say this as an advocate for kids to use, but as an adult. We are free to make our own decisions.

Here goes man. The bible says that God made everything, including plants. God also said that we are to partake of these plants and use them. Therefore, Mary Jane being a plant, was made by God and we are told to partake or use Mary Jane as we see fit.

If that is not the truth of it, then let me know why this is said in the bible and all religions are against its use.

Yes, yes, and if you plant some poppies, let them grow until the seed pods become especially engorged, slit the outside of these pods with a razor, let the sap run out and dry and blacken and scrape it off, you can then smoke the stuff...

Not that I'd especially reccomend doing that, it's quite addictive stuff, opium is.

That said, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that marijuana causes insanity or any kind of maniacal behavior as demonstrated in the 1930s film "Reefer Madness." While it does indeed reduce short term memory skills rather substantially during periods of prolonged use, it has relatively minimal permanent effects, if any. It's possibly one of the least addictive and damaging substances that humans have access to, certainly less so than alcohol or tobacco.

While no, I don't partake in marijuana, most civilized countries are moving towards a rationalization of policies against the stuff since no scientific evidence demonstrates it to be especially worse than alcohol or tobacco, both of which are quite heavily consumed in Western countries today.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

I find myself unable to express myself on a Christian website, is this wrong or what?

You seem to be expressing yourself quite well here, boy.

While the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

You show up here and say we should all smoke pot because it's good for us.

What makes you different than the guy pushing pot on the street corner?

As for the LORD GOD making things that are evil...

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
2 Kings 6:33 And while he yet talked with them, behold, the messenger came down unto him: and he said, Behold, this evil is of the LORD;
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

He even put the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil right in the middle of paradise! God has always surrounded us with plants that are not good for us.

Can I find Marijuana directly in the bible? No, but I can find lots against intoxication, and if you don't think you're intoxicated when you're stoned you're a deluded fool.

[slipdumb92]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

I have already mentioned previously that Marijuana is not good to be used in excess, but they do have medical value.

"God made Poison Oak. Does that make it good?"
It must be good for something, cause our Lord and Father wouldn't make anything un-pure and worthless, wouldn't you agree?
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many herbs may be toxic, but it does serve some function--

If it has medical value, which it has been proven I don't understand why no one here can't accept it as a useful herb.


-- show me some scriptures that say that marijuana is bad.

-- stop wasting your time trying to refer to me as a hippie or someone who smokes dope, because you don't know me as a person and have no authority to judge me- you will only be judging me blindly. If you sir James Dewitt actually believe that Bob Marley is santanic...or if anyone here believes that, I have no reason to believe anything you or anyone here has to say.


I have posted replies to a couple of pages already--
I joined this website hoping to share my thoughts and interpretations-- hoping to discuss with fellow Christians various topics and opinions I might have. - Yet any attempt to share knowledge is getting shot in the back.


No one is willing to discuss and interpret the great holy book, God has given us. Instead everyone here is locked in a shell, everyone here has myopia and has complete inflexible judgment.

I find myself unable to express myself on a Christian website, is this wrong or what?

[slipdumb92]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Poison oak was created by God too. Does that make it good? Why don't you go smoke some and see?

I'll bet you've never even set foot inside a church, have you boy.

I'm actually the drummer for my church.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Save your teens from marihuana!

Your calling Negroes scum?... I'm not black but damn that sounds extremely racist. I understand hippies for their unholy ways but to call a whole race scum is completely wrong. If you are being racist, that is pretty unholy.

How can you possibly say Bob Marley is santanic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does satan have love? Absolutely not!!!!! Bob Marley only sang about LOVE!!!

When have the Beatles ever advocate anything but love?! The Beatles were a rebellious group against the evil sinners that were consuming society in the 60s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob Marley grew up in a country in which Marijuana is completely legal! If marijuana was socially accepted in the United States you and everyone else would be doing it. Marley is not a bad person for doing it.

-- I understand why you think its a problem, and I do agree it is a problem- but you don't have to say Marley and Beatles were santanic, and more that negreos are scum, to prove your point. Geez

Be truthful and nonjudgmental

CAUTION This is what happens when you smoke DOPE! You become one!