[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Is this right, or, wrong??

Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. -Jesus Christ

You're so brilliant, and yet you don't understand the difference between "pure in heart" and "he that trusteth in his own heart"?

I think the quote from proverbs means, that he who follows his desires, which are NOT the heart as it is understood today but maybe back then, will surely find his destruction at the end of said desires. I would almost bet that is the meaning but leave it to those that understand the words and contexts of the Bible better than I to decipher it.

I think the quote from Proverbs means what the words say. Since you're the one creatively rewriting Scripture, you have the burden of proof.

ps. I am not a fool, I was top in my class, and have studied both the Bible intensely and classic buddhist texts, on top of that I have prayed in the tradition of the Catholics for a long time, and meditated in the buddhist tradition for an even longer time. I am not your average undiscerned youth, what I'm trying to say is, nothing but your best shot will impress me. I have also read many of the foremost Saints from the early Church, before it was split into Protestants and Catholics, and they have blessed me with spiritual insights that help me beyond what I've found in the Bible, be that wrong or right, I find that it has enriched me, same as pastors, priests and ministers do today, since the saints were self-same of their day and age. I may be unsaved trash in title here, but my preparation have been long, and my humility grows with each passing day.

Don't try and pulla quick one on me. That's all I'm saying. 9 times out of 10 it won't work. But you are welcome to try.

Didn't someone recently say something about arrogance?

[James Dewitt]

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ps. I am not a fool, I was top in my class, and have studied both the Bible intensely and classic buddhist texts, on top of that I have prayed in the tradition of the Catholics for a long time, and meditated in the buddhist tradition for an even longer time. I am not your average undiscerned youth, what I'm trying to say is, nothing but your best shot will impress me. I have also read many of the foremost Saints from the early Church, before it was split into Protestants and Catholics, and they have blessed me with spiritual insights that help me beyond what I've found in the Bible, be that wrong or right, I find that it has enriched me, same as pastors, priests and ministers do today, since the saints were self-same of their day and age. I may be unsaved trash in title here, but my preparation have been long, and my humility grows with each passing day.

I can see an end coming to this saga. It seems that we have a Catlik on our hands. And WE all know that Papist scum are NOT Christians. It is also clear why he has affections towards men. He must be a defrocked priest.

[self_abusing_sinner]

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I apologize, uh what exactly do you find hard to believe, here?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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I apologize, uh what exactly do you find hard to believe, here?

That you have studied the Bible yet still worship false "gods" through papism and boodhism.

[self_abusing_sinner]

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That you have studied the Bible yet still worship false "gods" through papism and boodhism.

Does your lack of respect for other religions perhaps reflect an inner lack of respect, for your own? Honesty is the best policy, both your background and life experience should have convinced you of that by now.

And, what is boodhism? I just can't seem to find it in the dictionary. Can you explain the word a bit better, so I can understand it, clearly?

Thank you very much.

sas

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Oh, and another thing:

I have also read many of the foremost Saints from the early Church, before it was split into Protestants and Catholics....

The notion that the early Church was simply split into Protestants and Catholics is a common misconception among people who know zip about Christian history. Ever hear of Eastern Orthodoxy, O learned one? I therefore call shenanigans on your claims of learning.

(I am using "Christian" in the broader meaning here in order to make my point. Of course, we True Christians™ know that the Romanists, the Eastern Orthodontists, and all other denominations that disagree with us in any regard are merely Christian by courtesy.)

[James Dewitt]

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=self_aware_sinner;571855]

Does your lack of respect for other religions perhaps reflect an inner lack of respect, for your own? Honesty is the best policy, both your background and life experience should have convinced you of that by now

Are you aware of what the Bible says in regards to false Christians and non Christians? I will help you out.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.


I love the part where I get to stone you.

And, what is boodhism? I just can't seem to find it in the dictionary. Can you explain the word a bit better, so I can understand it, clearly?

Don't you know, you said you studied it

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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Does your lack of respect for other religions perhaps reflect an inner lack of respect, for your own? Honesty is the best policy, both your background and life experience should have convinced you of that by now.

Ummm... Where in the Bible does it say I have to show respect to false religions?

Judges 2:1-3 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.
And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?
Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.

Nope, not there. Let's try a more well-known passage...

Exodus 20:3,5 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me

Whoa! Definitely not there!

Exodus 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

Sorry, what was that you said about having studied the Bible? I'm having no luck seeing where I'm supposed to be respecting false religions.

Deuteronomy 6:14-15 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;
(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

Hmmm. I'm having a hard time justifying your stance here. How is your search going?

Jeremiah 25:6 And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt.

I don't know about you, but I'm tempted to give up on trying to find where I'm supposed to respect false religions!

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Okay, I give up. Let me know how your search goes.

[self_abusing_sinner]

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How about the part where Peter visits the Centurion, a gentile and an unbeliever, and the Holy Spirit falls upon them as it did on the disciples in the upper room at Pentecost, and Peter therefore concedes that gentiles are as worthy as believers, in the eyes of God, provided they are a law unto themselves? I'm sure you with your command of the Bible will know exactly where that is.

Regards, and sorry, you sort of tore into me and I'm very tired so my patience isn't exactly well up to normal standards anyway, just I'm sorry, and have a great day.

sas

ps. Again, I'm sorry. Hope we can forget this maybe even forgive it.

Thank you,

sas

[Meek and Humble]

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How about the part where Peter visits the Centurion, a gentile and an unbeliever, and the Holy Spirit falls upon them as it did on the disciples in the upper room at Pentecost, and Peter therefore concedes that gentiles are as worthy as believers, in the eyes of God, provided they are a law unto themselves? I'm sure you with your command of the Bible will know exactly where that is.

Regards, and sorry, you sort of tore into me and I'm very tired so my patience isn't exactly well up to normal standards anyway, just I'm sorry, and have a great day.

sas

ps. Again, I'm sorry. Hope we can forget this maybe even forgive it.

Thank you,

sas

Son, are you right in the head? Do you know what the word GENTILE means? It means someone who is not JEWISH! Those people you are talking about were Christian believers. They just settled the debate as to whether Christianity was only open to Jewish converts.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say we should accept those of pagan religions, or non-believers.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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How about the part where Peter visits the Centurion, a gentile and an unbeliever, and the Holy Spirit falls upon them as it did on the disciples in the upper room at Pentecost, and Peter therefore concedes that gentiles are as worthy as believers, in the eyes of God, provided they are a law unto themselves? I'm sure you with your command of the Bible will know exactly where that is.

Are you thinking of Acts 10?
10:34-35 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Certainly nothing there about respecting false religions. In fact, it's all about converting to the ONE TRUE FAITH.

Regards, and sorry, you sort of tore into me and I'm very tired so my patience isn't exactly well up to normal standards anyway, just I'm sorry, and have a great day.

I accept your apology. Non-Christians are typically filled with rage, so expect that sort of thing from you.

[Seth Campbell]

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How about the part where Peter visits the Centurion, a gentile and an unbeliever, and the Holy Spirit falls upon them as it did on the disciples in the upper room at Pentecost, and Peter therefore concedes that gentiles are as worthy as believers, in the eyes of God, provided they are a law unto themselves? I'm sure you with your command of the Bible will know exactly where that is.

Regards, and sorry, you sort of tore into me and I'm very tired so my patience isn't exactly well up to normal standards anyway, just I'm sorry, and have a great day.

sas

ps. Again, I'm sorry. Hope we can forget this maybe even forgive it.

Thank you,

sas

You really read a lot into the Bible don't you.

Lets look at that in scripture shall we?

. 17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean , behold , the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate, 18 And called , and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there. 19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold , three men seek thee. 20 Arise therefore, and get thee down , and go with them,

Peter was told in a vision to go with them.

doubting nothing: for I have sent them. 21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said , Behold , I am he whom ye seek : what is the cause wherefore ye are come ? 22 And they said , Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

Does it really sound to you like Cornelius was a pagan?

23 Then called he them in , and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him. 24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them , and had called together his kinsmen and near friends. 25 And as Peter was coming in , Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26 But Peter took him up , saying , Stand up ; I myself also am a man. 27 And as he talked with him, he went in , and found many that were come together . 28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company , or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. 29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for : I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me? 30 And Cornelius said , Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold , a man stood before me in bright clothing, 31 And said , Cornelius, thy prayer is heard , and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.

Fasting and praying, the heathen

32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh , shall speak unto thee. 33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come . Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God. 34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said , Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

So God doesn't care where you come from, as long as you fear him and follow his rules

36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all: ) 37 That word, I say, ye know , which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached ; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good , and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly ; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness , that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished , as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized , which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

So was that spoon fed to you by your priest, or is your reading comprehension really that bad.

[Bobby-Joe]

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How about the part where Peter visits the Centurion, a gentile and an unbeliever, and the Holy Spirit falls upon them as it did on the disciples in the upper room at Pentecost

Leave it to you use the Bible to justify gay group sex.

Gay pron fantasies based on Scripture, that's a new low.

[Didymus Much]

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... I was top in my class... and my humility grows with each passing day.

[self_abusing_sinner]

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Ok my mistake, the word Gentile does not refer to an un-believer, but a believer from a non-Jewish nationality. This was also what Paul corrected Peter on I believe uh right?? That believing Gentiles had as much worth as (Christ) believing Jews.

Thank you for the correction, I love being corrected in matters of truth, I find that it gives me peace and clears my perspective, so thank you for your blessing, in these pages.

God bless, and thanks again!

sas