[I-Hate-Juice]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Daisy Mae is a True Christian Lady and you are Unsaved Trash.
Who's words carry most weight?
You do the math.

Wise words from a True Christian! I´m awaiting what stupid responses the atheists and retards are going to come up to challenge these statements.

YiC
Paavali

[Agelage]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Daisy Mae is a True Christian Lady and you are Unsaved Trash.
Who's words carry most weight?
You do the math.

1 Tim. 2:12, a woman must not teach or hold authority over a man.

I would think mine, even though I am a sinner. Do note that this isn't my personal oppinion of the matter, doesn't have anything to do with the topic, and that I would actually like references to this (from anyone that would be kind enough to PM them to me, as I wouldn't want to clutter the thread further with off-topic posts). I may not share your beliefs, but I prefer to adher to proper forum-protocolls and procedures.

[Agelage]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

1 Tim. 2:12, a woman must not teach or hold authority over a man.

I would think mine, even though I am a sinner. Do note that this isn't my personal oppinion of the matter, doesn't have anything to do with the topic, and that I would actually like references to this (from anyone that would be kind enough to PM them to me, as I wouldn't want to clutter the thread further with off-topic posts). I may not share your beliefs, but I prefer to adher to proper forum-protocolls and procedures.

Akk, I failed to find an edit-button, if there are one. I would have liked to add that I haven't lurked around enough to find reference to if a sinful man (like myself) have authority over a "TC" woman. When I get more than 5 minutes to browse, I will take the time to properly search old posts for information I will need, but for now excuse my ignorance. I mean no disrespect with this, but I can understand if it is viewed that way.

[Born Again Bob]

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Akk, I failed to find an edit-button, if there are one. I would have liked to add that I haven't lurked around enough to find reference to if a sinful man (like myself) have authority over a "TC" woman.

No. Until you're a True Christian(tm), you're no better than a woman.

[Naglfar]

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You guys are really amazing! Here in Scandinavia we have hade some troubles with islamist fundamentals, who aren't assimilating to our common western beliefs. Thoughts of non-equal rights for man and woman, thoughts that you don't have to wear a burka or niqab if you want to show yourself outside your house. Beliefs that a man can't shake hands with a woman because she's concidered filthy. And a old-fashioned belief that you shall not eat pork. I can understand that, if you sit in a tent in the desert without the ability to use a freezer, then it's a good rule. But in a modern world, it's just plain rubbish! Those beliefs, written down 1400 years ago by some guy who had a 9 year old wife, shouldn't be concidered anywhere close to something you should follow today. But still they do! How stupid is that?

Therefore I've always looked up to USA, a country where several of my relatives have moved all the way from the 17'th century until recent days. A country who have fought against both the despotic Nazis and Communists, actually saved Europe from both those terrible things. A country who have done much good to world peace and world economics.

But still, when I read your beliefs, I get astounded. Newspapers tell about the threat from people following the Sharia-laws down to the word. Not thinking themselves, no, just following that book written in a time where nobody in that country had ever heard of America, no, not even Scandinavia. Still they prevail in those stupid thoughts of that you have to stone a woman to death if she's having sex before marriage, and a plain thief should have his hands cut off. How hilarious is that?! Haven't they evolved a single day since the 7'th century? And - this is a serious threat today. This backward people doesn't seem to understand that this is a really new modern time, with modern people, modern thoughts, and modern civilisation. So - thank you for our western civilisation! But hey, wait!? Then I find your site? I now realize that the islamists aren't the only backward people following some rules from where the known world was limited to some lands in the Eastern Meditarrean. People have to evolve! Sure, I don't mind that you believe in God; the fundaments of our civilisation and our way of living originate from what's in the Bible. But - that's the fundaments. We couldn't evolve to this civilisation without changes of our beliefs and way of thinking. That's exactly what's happened when Jesus came and made additions and changes to the Old Testament. But that was around 2000 years ago! Since then, man has discovered America, travelled into Space, found out how to partly tame nuclear power, globalized the world with easier travel with cars, airplanes and internet and so on and so on. Our music have changed, we live about twice as long as in those times thanks to medical evolution and much more. But still, you have a fundamentalistic belief that we still have to follow the words of one book dated 2000 years ago and another book that's even older? Get a grip! You're as backwards as the islamist fundamentals, well 600 years worse actually... And that's what I call dangerous!

As per the moomin-thoughts which this thread originated in: If your Devil isn't worse than you can compare him to a white, soft hippopotomus doing imaginary fantasy things in a childrens program, I think you're a little bit too scared of nothing. Is that really what you call devilish?! How cute...

Sure, the Devil is out there, but I do rather think that the Devil is dressed in a suit, giving orders to slay people not thinking like him. And there's actually many devils and not all of them are dressed in suits. Some of them actually represent a God of Good and Loving. Some call Him Jehova, some God, some Allah. But in the end, those Devils who use the word of their Loving, good god in order to bring hatred and death to others, is not god-fearing at all. Because he's clearly possessed with the Devil. And your thoughts are really close to that possession - if not even beyond!

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

tl:dr hateful rant snipped.

Why do you hate the Bible and by extension Jesus so much?

[Naglfar]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

I really don't. Jesus in my world stands for compassion, love your next and being civilised. Your way of reading The Book is more based on hatred of your next. Why?

Is that really Christianity? In that case, although baptised, I don't agree with the Bible.

[Angel of Light]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

No. Until you're a True Christian™, you're no better than a woman.

But the Bible says that a woman shall not hold authority over a man, regardless of religion. No where in the bible do I find the trademark symbol, either.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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I really don't. Jesus in my world stands for compassion, love your next and being civilised.

Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.

Jesus and Paul call people who disagree with them a lot of different names.

"DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
"SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
"VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
"HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
"CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
"PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
"REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
"HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
"FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
"WICKED AND ADULTEROUS" Mat. 16:4 "A wicked and adulterous generation" (see also Mat. 12:45, 13:49, 18:32, 21:41, 25:26, Luke 19:22, 1Cor. 5:13, 2Thes. 3:2, 2Pet. 2:7, 3:17)
"O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
"STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
"LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
"ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
"WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .

Your way of reading The Book is more based on hatred of your next. Why?

We don't hate anyone or anything. It's God who hates these things. We are merely quoting what is in the Bible.

Is that really Christianity? In that case, although baptised, I don't agree with the Bible.

This is what happens when you don't read the Bible. At least read the stickies in this area of the forum.

[Naglfar]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.

Jesus and Paul call people who disagree with them a lot of different names.

"DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
"SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
"VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
"HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
"CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
"PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
"REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
"HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
"FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
"WICKED AND ADULTEROUS" Mat. 16:4 "A wicked and adulterous generation" (see also Mat. 12:45, 13:49, 18:32, 21:41, 25:26, Luke 19:22, 1Cor. 5:13, 2Thes. 3:2, 2Pet. 2:7, 3:17)
"O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
"STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
"LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
"ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
"WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .




We don't hate anyone or anything. It's God who hates these things. We are merely quoting what is in the Bible.



This is what happens when you don't read the Bible. At least read the stickies in this area of the forum.

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Yes, you're right that Jesus is claimed to have said so. But that's what I mean - man have to evolve. A status quo religion founded 2000 years ago, basing its thoughts of a belief of that some of us are sinners and some of us by some mystical way (who haven't have foul thoughts of "your nexts" girlfriend or something else in the Bible sometime?) are not sinful, is just foolishness. I think that on the day of reckoning, you will be really surprised of who's entering through the Gates and who's not.

The belief of women shall not teach or rule over a man is just plain stupid. Sure, a woman is usually not as physically strong as a man, but they are surely as smart as us men and, they can be more clever, more fair - but actually sometimes also even more cruel. This means that a woman is as qualified as anybody else to teach or rule.

Anyway, fundamentalists wether they claim to be soldiers of Allah, soldiers of God or soldiers of Communism are all what I concider the biggest threat of the life we live in the free western world. Al Qaida is only one dangerous example. Just see what 911 have done to your country, nowadays your country is more closed, secured and protectionistic than ever. And everything you and I write here is probably saved in a huge database somewhere as a lot of security cameras, e-mails and so on. This is what happens when fundamentalists go to action.

And yes, I've read the Bible, but found it strange that anybody could see the good in that God would punish Egypt and punish him and kill somebodys sons and so on. Is that really a book - and a God - to worship? I don't like despots like Stalin, Hitler and Kadaffi who have made so much bad against people. So why, pray tell, should I make a difference with God who have done so much bad against people - according to The Bible?

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

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The belief of women shall not teach or rule over a man is just plain stupid. Sure, a woman is usually not as physically strong as a man, but they are surely as smart as us men and, they can be more clever, more fair - but actually sometimes also even more cruel. This means that a woman is as qualified as anybody else to teach or rule.

Jesus does not agree with your erroneous beliefs.

1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

And yes, I've read the Bible, but found it strange that anybody could see the good in that God would punish Egypt and punish him and kill somebodys sons and so on. Is that really a book - and a God - to worship?

The ways of the Lord are mysterious indeed but that does not mean that we shouldn't trust His judgment.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

In order to avoid an eternity of burning in hell, we must follow His every command no matter how "evil" it might seem.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

[Naglfar]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Dear brothers and sisters
Thank you for helping me understand the word of God. I am trying to share my knowledge to as many as possible. If somebody tries to defend homosexuality, I just remind them about the place in the Third Book of Moses (3 Mos. 18:22) where you can plainly read “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” That usually settle the discussion.

But I have to admit that I need some advice about following the Word of God in some other matters.

1 Every time i burn an ox as sacrifice, I know it gives a scent that appeases the Lord (3 Mos 1:9). The trouble is – the neighbours are complaining!

2 I wish to sell one of my daughters as a slave (2 Mos. 21:7). With the prices of today, what could be a reasonable price for her?

3 In 3 Mos. 24:44 it plainly says that I can own both male and female slaves as long as they are bought from another neighbouring country. A friend of mine says that this only applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. I need help here. Can I also own Canadian slaves?

4. Another neighbour is working on Saturdays. According to 2 Mos 35:2 he should be slain for that. Am I morally responsible for doing this myself?

5. One of my friend says that even if it’s a blasphemy to eat shell-fish (3 Mos. 11:10), homosexuality is even worse! I don’t agree with him. Who of us is right?

6. In 3 Mos 21:20 it says that I’m not allowed to approach the Altar of God if I can’t see well. I must admit that I’m a bit near-sighted and uses glasses. Do I need 20-20-vision or can I accept a little bit of liberal thoughts here?

7. Most of the people I know are going to the barber. They cut the hair on the sides and mar the tufts of their beard. This is bad according to 3. Mos 19:27. How shall they be punished?

8 My mother is breaking against 3 Mos. 19:19, because she’s planting different crops on the same soil. Apart from that, she also wear clothes made of more than one material of cloth. What to do?

9. We often hang out with a family who swear and curse a lot. Is it really necessary to gather the entire village just to stone them (3 Mos. 24:10-16)? Couldn’t we just burn them to death as we are supposed to do with people having sex with their own relatives? (3 Mos. 20:14)?

I know you have had deep thoughts about these types of questions, so I’m convinced that you can help me.
Thank you for always reminding us of that The Word of God is eternal and unchangeable.

[Didymus Much]

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learn2 Search Function kbai.

[MisterM]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Dear brothers and sisters
Thank you for helping me understand the word of God. I am trying to share my knowledge to as many as possible. If somebody tries to defend homosexuality, I just remind them about the place in the Third Book of Moses (3 Mos. 18:22) where you can plainly read “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” That usually settle the discussion.But I have to admit that I need some advice about following the Word of God in some other matters.

So you just needed to copy this about 20 years old text to our forums? Only funny thing here is that it only shows how little heathens know about bible.

1 Every time i burn an ox as sacrifice, I know it gives a scent that appeases the Lord (3 Mos 1:9). The trouble is – the neighbours are complaining!

Are you joo? Christians do not sacrifice animals. Read the new testament, after Jesus, God has no interest in animal sacrifices.

Hebrews 9:11-12 - But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Hebrews 10:10-14 - By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool . For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified .

2 I wish to sell one of my daughters as a slave (2 Mos. 21:7). With the prices of today, what could be a reasonable price for her?

This is irrelevant question because even it is our biblical right to sell our daughters, we must follow the civil law here (Romans 13:1-7). Otherwise few hundred bucks should be ok.

3 In 3 Mos. 24:44 it plainly says that I can own both male and female slaves as long as they are bought from another neighbouring country. A friend of mine says that this only applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. I need help here. Can I also own Canadian slaves?

Again, irrelevant question, see answer 2. If there would be Canadian slaves and civil law would accept them, there wouldn't be any reason why True Christian couldn't have them as slaves.

4. Another neighbour is working on Saturdays. According to 2 Mos 35:2 he should be slain for that. Am I morally responsible for doing this myself?

Leviticus 23:3 - Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

Normally people work from Monday to Saturday, so Sunday is the day of rest.

5. One of my friend says that even if it’s a blasphemy to eat shell-fish (3 Mos. 11:10), homosexuality is even worse! I don’t agree with him. Who of us is right?

Homosexuality can be cured if you just believe in God. So we should first try to save those poor perverted souls. And shellfish is discussed here

6. In 3 Mos 21:20 it says that I’m not allowed to approach the Altar of God if I can’t see well. I must admit that I’m a bit near-sighted and uses glasses. Do I need 20-20-vision or can I accept a little bit of liberal thoughts here?

God provided us the knowledge to build glasses. If you can see ok with them, then it is ok.

7. Most of the people I know are going to the barber. They cut the hair on the sides and mar the tufts of their beard. This is bad according to 3. Mos 19:27. How shall they be punished?

Again...are you joo? Read the Scriptures or use search. We are Christians

8 My mother is breaking against 3 Mos. 19:19, because she’s planting different crops on the same soil. Apart from that, she also wear clothes made of more than one material of cloth. What to do?

9. We often hang out with a family who swear and curse a lot. Is it really necessary to gather the entire village just to stone them (3 Mos. 24:10-16)? Couldn’t we just burn them to death as we are supposed to do with people having sex with their own relatives? (3 Mos. 20:14)?

Try to use the search, all of these are answered here.

I know you have had deep thoughts about these types of questions, so I’m convinced that you can help me.

I'm not sure if we can. You seem to be joo or catlic. You even refer to some heathen version of bible

Thank you for always reminding us of that The Word of God is eternal and unchangeable.

It is not. God has changed his earlier expectations many times. Read the bible.

YiC,
Brother Miikkael

[Ednamor (On Moderation)]

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